Looks like trades are killing college

[cncman]

Do heating and air conditioning making $35 an hour with commissions. Avg salary in my state is 45,000. I currently make 85-90,000.

Ballin'

[PrettyPinkDonut]

college was a waste of my friggin time

[naturaltony]

Brb waking up at 5am to work under a blaring hot sun all day.
Brb repeat until aged 50+

I'll take my uni degree thanks

Which trade works in the sun?
Plumber? Nope
Electrician? Nope
Locksmith? Nope
HVAC? Nope

Need I go on?

My point was that college is literally not worth the cost for most people. I keep reading how trades cap early but degree jobs do not. Lol what a joke. The world isn't like that anymore. I guarantee union workers got more pay raises since 2008 then non union non skilled office workers. Even union office workers don't make as much trade workers.

For the record I went to college and do not work in a trade

[MrB1g]

Perhaps. There's certainly a lot of merit in taking up a trade.

Having said that, several of my friends at University who are graduating this year just signed contracts with investment banks with starting salaries ranging from $95,000 - $105,000 (plus bonuses on top of that) at 20 years of age with University debt of ~$25k.

Is it a hellish lifestyle? Yes. Would you possibly be able to make anywhere near that much money at that age through a trade? No. University does create more opportunities. Perhaps not for everyone, but for some.

[naturaltony]

Perhaps. There's certainly a lot of merit in taking up a trade.

Having said that, several of my friends at University who are graduating this year just signed contracts with investment banks with starting salaries ranging from $95,000 - $105,000 (plus bonuses on top of that) at 20 years of age with University debt of ~$25k.

Is it a hellish lifestyle? Yes. Would you possibly be able to make anywhere near that much money at that age through a trade? No. University does create more opportunities. Perhaps not for everyone, but for some.

Thread argument: college is too expensive for MOST people with little results
Your response: my friend who is in a good program at a good school is making money

Lol ok, still the 99% of college grads don't get jobs in ibanking

[SickSideSoldado]

Welder brah checking in , about to graduate this december finnaly get a real job and leave the fast food busniess behind

[Everknown]

i said in one thread, i'm a tradie and i make more than the typical college grad and i got negged into oblivion

[Ted Nugent]

trades are great, make great cash, have a valuable skill…but ive worked with/talked to alot of guys who have been in the trade as a lifetime career, 20-30 years in, and every single one of them says that its rough on your body. and this isnt just framers and iron workers and "rough" jobs, this is HVAC guys, plumbers, electricians, etc. Its great when youre young, but when youre 40+ you start feeling the aches and pains of doing manual labor all day

i know were all young and bulletproof right now, but listen to the guys who have been doing it their whole life, they will give you the real talk

[PrimeraRS]

These salaries are wayyyyyyyy exaggerated. My Family owns a Contacting company and the plumbers/hvac/elec guys we sub work to do not make $30+ hour lol You guys are thinking every tradesman makes bank oh boy you guys are in for a rude awakening.

[Ted Nugent]

These salaries are wayyyyyyyy exaggerated. My Family owns a Contacting company and the plumbers/hvac/elec guys we sub work to do not make $30+ hour lol You guys are thinking every tradesman makes bank oh boy you guys are in for a rude awakening.

this. the salaries alot of people reference are for a Master who is either self employed or in a great union and working full time if not more. Its also very common for tradesmen to be without work for weeks, even months, at a time. On the other side though, my neighbor is a self employed master plumber, been doing it for almost 30 years, has a great reputation in the community, he makes ridiculous money but its because hes been in the same area doing it his whole life and has built up to that.

[jakobi78]

Brb waking up at 5am to work under a blaring hot sun all day.
Brb repeat until aged 50+

I'll take my uni degree thanks

not all blue collar jobs work in the sun.... i work inside most of the time and by the time im 50...i'll start building houses...thats what alot of old folks(blue collar jobs) are doing now....rarely work...build houses, sell them ...$100,000 - $200,000 profit

[cutNhardR]

college was a waste of my friggin time

thats what you get when you major in arts and spend all your time partying and trying to fuk sloots.

[PrimeraRS]

thats what you get when you major in arts and spend all your time partying and trying to fuk sloots.

Judging from his avi, hell be Ali mode in about 5 years so who cares.

[DougieC]

You don't see any "blue collar union" guys designing a rocket or an airplane.


Pls go.

[Ochosiete]

In, college degree but going back to learn a trade, no college debt and good job right now but this isn't what I want to do.... Debating learning cnc or welding at the moment...

Figure I'm still young and never too late to learn more, better to do it now before I'm trapped by some sloot and 3 kids

[PrimeraRS]

In, college degree but going back to learn a trade, no college debt and good job right now but this isn't what I want to do.... Debating learning cnc or welding at the moment...

Figure I'm still young and never too late to learn more, better to do it now before I'm trapped by some sloot and 3 kids

Welding isn't hard. I enjoy welding even though its just as a hobbyist.

[dizzay20]

lol @ the manual labor peasants being so proud of being peasants. Go unplug toilets, while the educated people advance the human race.

[Ochosiete]

Welding isn't hard. I enjoy welding even though its just as a hobbyist.

I'd like to learn welding but I'm always looking at job postings on so cal and I rarely see welding jobs.. Cnc machinists right now are hot because more aerospacecompanies aare expanding in so cal

[RutgersGrad]

Trades are decent for making okay money, but is any tradesman actually living a fulfilled life? Do you really want to wake up everyday and snake drains or work on an air conditioner? You're not exactly accomplishing anything with your life.

[T-Roach]

i said in one thread, i'm a tradie and i make more than the typical college grad and i got negged into oblivion

that's because of the way you brought it out


so has any tradesman actually posted that they earn over a 100k (no, "my friends earns etc, or the salary cap is...", don't count) with proof?
if so, why are they bragging with how much they make?

lol @ the manual labor peasants being so proud of being peasants. Go unplug toilets, while the educated people advance the human race.

used to agree with this 100%. now it's more like 70%ish.
still lol'd

[Ted Nugent]

Trades are decent for making okay money, but is any tradesman actually living a fulfilled life? Do you really want to wake up everyday and snake drains or work on an air conditioner?

you can make awesome money if you own your own business, have one of the rarer skilled trades (i know a guy who operates big ass cranes and he makes retarded amounts of money, but those jobs are very rare). just like anything else, being successful in trades is about your background, your work drive, your connections, and luck

[CuzHeBrown]

Do heating and air conditioning making $35 an hour with commissions. Avg salary in my state is 45,000. I currently make 85-90,000.

I went to school for HVAC, how long did it take you to finish your apprenticeship?

[Everknown]

that's because of the way you brought it out


so has any tradesman actually posted that they earn over a 100k (no, "my friends earns etc, or the salary cap is...", don't count) with proof?
if so, why are they bragging with how much they make?

i make 97k a year, i don't have anything against college grads

[jumberlogger]

What they don't tell you about trade jobs is that you only have work when there is a project happening. Work for a few months making bank and then no work for a month or two. So you have to budget your income to last.
Or livin out of motels traveling from city to city or state to state. No thanks Jeff.

[BoltzmannEq]

Literally every one one of my friends in my engineering program either has a internship for this next summer, or is graduating and has job offers.

Go to a good school with a good program.

Starting pay ranging from 60-80k, with plenty of room to move up.

Took me 6 months to find a job after graduating engineering, now pulling in 50k with 60k in benefits; expensed rent, rental car, gas, and food.

[Ted Nugent]

if so, why are they bragging with how much they make?

nikka your misc career has been bragging about your Hermes belt and $200 t-shirts, don't start preaching about people bragging about their cash flow. and its completely believeable trade guys make 6 figures, union wages around here are in the $30-40/hr range, my buddy is a union pipefitter working for National Grid (huge utilities company) so he has guaranteed 40/hrs a week yr round plus tons of overtime, he makes solid 6 figures.

[Eskimo]

Trades are good and we all need their services at some point, whether you ceo 10k/day or not.

I won't claim my friends make 6 figures or anything, but any one of my friends or people i know who don't have a college degree and aren't military that isn't on dat poverty time works in a trade field.

Most of the $$ comes from OT.

[Engineer_Guy]

These salaries are wayyyyyyyy exaggerated. My Family owns a Contacting company and the plumbers/hvac/elec guys we sub work to do not make $30+ hour lol You guys are thinking every tradesman makes bank oh boy you guys are in for a rude awakening.

Misc: Where plumbers and electricians are on 10k/day CEO time and all college graduate are unemployed or working at McDonald's.

To make bank as a tradesman you need to really find a niche market and even then you generally need a TON of experience before you start making bank. Or the job just needs to be so dangerous or strenuous that nobody wants to do it.

[naturaltony]

College: costs $100k and you may not get a job
Trade: doesn't have to cost anything and you have high chances of a job

Even if you get crappy constriction jobs that end every few months you can still do other jobs. You can get gigs on Craigslist or whatever

There has never been a time in history where it has been as expensive to go to school as now. It's literally not worth it.

Do what you want misc I'm just calling it like it is

Also: who says you have to work a trade for the rest of your life? You can easily work a trade for 2-3 years to finance your education then work part time while going to college full time.

Every trade guy I know owns a house and has a family. They may get their satisfaction from home life rather than work. And that's ok.

Let's say you work a trade, there are chances for you to become a supervisor, foreman, trainer, contractor, sub contractor. You don't HAVE to work the actual trade for your whole life

[RutgersGrad]

you can make awesome money if you own your own business, have one of the rarer skilled trades (i know a guy who operates big ass cranes and he makes retarded amounts of money, but those jobs are very rare). just like anything else, being successful in trades is about your background, your work drive, your connections, and luck

Okay, but that didn't answer the question.

i make 97k a year, i don't have anything against college grads

Minimum wage in Australia is like $17, so 97k is nothing like 97k in the states.