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it works chest, lats, serratus and some more i dont remember
where do you include it?
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Thread: pullovers for back or chest day?
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well depending on which version you do, thats what muscle group will be worked. i do an actually pullover machine and that works my back. now if i lay across a bench holding a db behind me, stretch it out to where it's lined up to my head then bring it back up but STOP at chest level then i'm hitting chest. so you can actually do them both two different days.
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07-07-2013, 06:54 PM #10
IMO : def lats
but you should look out for your shoulders
The most common cause of hesitancy before incorporating pullovers into one's routine is a fear of shoulder injuries. There's something justifiably nerve-wracking about lying down while holding a heavy weight at the end of fully extended arms and then moving that weight precariously over your face.
Fortunately, there are a few simple steps we can take to make sure you get the most benefit while still abiding by the Personal Trainer's Golden Rule of "Do no harm."
First things first: Mobility check. Can you overhead press with a full range of motion (knuckles touching, your shoulders to arms locked straight overhead)? Can you do pull-ups or chin-ups with a full range of motion (dead-hang, arms locked straight to full contraction)?
If either of those are a "no," we need to work on your shoulder and upper back mobility, particularly the upper body drills in this great piece from Tony Gentilcore.
Once your body can function the way it's supposed to, it's time to take the exercise itself for a spin. Lie on a flat bench (the "usual" way, not with only the upper back across the bench and your body perpendicular. There's no major benefit, and the "hip drop" everyone uses as they lower the weight is more of a counterbalance than actual improvement in the ROM).
Grab a light dumbbell, as if you were going to do a triceps extension, palms against the plates and the handle positioned between your thumbs and index fingers.
This should be as easy as squatting with an empty bar because we're basically learning the movement and testing range of motion, so around 25 pounds should be plenty. Start with the weight even with your chest and both arms straight, and slowly lower the weight towards your head, paying attention to the muscles you feel stretching throughout the upper body.
Go as far back as is comfortable, while maintaining almost-locked arms, before pulling back in to the start position. As you're going through the reps (12-15 for now), try lowering a bit further until, ideally, your hands are at least level with the bench, if not slightly below.
Once you've done an easy set or two with the dumbbell, take a self-inventory and see how your shoulders, chest, and lats are feeling – what's tight, what's loose, what's getting pumped – and then repeat the test with a short barbell or EZ-curl bar using a pronated (palms-down) grip, again with a weight that has you thinking, "This is way too light for me."
If you're still feeling any shoulder funkiness after trying pullovers with light-ish weight, higher reps, and different hand positions (a little wider, a little closer, neutral-grip with a "triceps bar"), then, to paraphrase something Old Ben once said on a dusty road on Tatooine, "These are not the exercises you're looking for."
Sometimes exercises can be contraindicated for some people. That's fancy trainer-speak for, "You just shouldn't do this, and if you do, you'll probably hurt something and blame me."
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