Mind=blown @ American medical system

[srsfatceps]

The only thing that can really keep prices down in the long run is the free market.

Can you imagine if the government controlled all computer manufacturing? We'd still be on Windows 95 systems and a PC would cost $15,000.

Jesus Christ do you really think that state funded health care would remove the free market?

[jam88]

Why the fukk are there always threads about fukking healthcare...I seriously don't get it. I'm 24 goddamn years old- which I would consider to be about average on the misc- and I haven't gone to the doctor aside for my yearly physical for at least 10 years. wtf is everyone here doing that's so dangerous that you go the doctor all the fuking time. pls enlighten me, goddammit.

"I'm 24 goddamn years old"

[asylumz]

Thats funny because one of the biggest danish companies is a pharmaceutical company.

Not sure what size has to do with innovation. Strong straw man argument.

[montecarlo]

you can buy insurance so not sheriff srs

[House_of_Straw]

the american health-care system is the result of gov't legislation dictating the market. It has been completely taken over by corporations wooing politicians. medical offices and hospitals that don't take insurance are a fraction of the cost and better quality. I refuse to be taxed for breathing.

[EQUlLIBRIUM]

What i love the most is how they require an xray when you and the doctor obv knows theres nothing broken. Brb i have a torn acl, brb every doctor tells me to do an xray every visit just to make sure the knee isnt broken. Dumb fks

You medical knowledge is astounding. I mean they should fire everyone and have you call all the shots. You get a xray first to ensure that there is no bone damage. MRI is not super great at bone detail.

BRB everyone is a medical expert in todays world
BRB going to the doctor with a diagnosis already
BRB suing doctor because he listened to you

Also on the insurance note, this facility is very interesting. They post prices online. It is a physician owned and operated facility.
http://surgerycenterok.com/pricing.php
pretty cool

[BrollicWraith]

Yes, Americans are so uncivilised it's unreal.

this, honestly

the education system's ****ed, too. brb need tens of thousands of dollars to gain the ability to get a job that will pay you tens of thousands of dollars. logic, not even once.

[kups95]

American medical system is the biggest joke in the world. Perpetuates a downward spiral for the poor - no wealth -> no health -> no wealth -> etc. Any Yank who claims "poor people just need to work harder so they can afford health care" should try making a decent/reasonable living when their own health is in the gutter. Health is a basic human right which unfortunately 99% of the world's population does not have proper access to, come at me *******s

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[scullin]

you can buy insurance so not sheriff srs

Insurance is fine for regular checkups but if something major happens you're still fukked. I am speaking from experience.

[Emilos12]

Not sure what size has to do with innovation. Strong straw man argument.

Notsureifsrs

They obviously have to innovate in order to be succesful, and they have to be succesful in order to grow.

[Justcheakinpics]

healthcare should be a basic human right..like clean water. its just something we need. theres 323189397187 diseases that ail the human body, there isnt one of us whos free of all of them. im all for capitalism, im all for hard work and makin a ton of money to live the best life u possibly can. im all for whoever gets to the mountain top first gets the glory. but healthcare should be excluded from this and made into a basic fundamental structure for all people, no matter what financial status they are. i have no problem with the goverment taking 8 bucks out of my paycheak to help someone with cancer, if they didnt take it out i would give it, money well spent imo.

[Woofwolf]

The only thing that can really keep prices down in the long run is the free market.

Can you imagine if the government controlled all computer manufacturing? We'd still be on Windows 95 systems and a PC would cost $15,000.

But who was Monopoly and Oligopoly?

[EQUlLIBRIUM]

healthcare should be a basic human right..like clean water. its just something we need. theres 323189397187 diseases that ail the human body, there isnt one of us whos free of all of them. im all for capitalism, im all for hard work and makin a ton of money to live the best life u possibly can. im all for whoever gets to the mountain top first gets the glory. but healthcare should be excluded from this and made into a basic fundamental structure for all people, no matter what financial status they are. i have no problem with the goverment taking 8 bucks out of my paycheak to help someone with cancer, if they didnt take it out i would give it, money well spent imo.

what if it was 25% of your paycheck
what if the govt controlled the healthcare and decided you didn't need some test you wanted
what if they decided you could wait a month to have a surgery

In todays system you can have treatment almost immediately. Granted it is expensive. Do not think for one minute it is the doctors making the money though. It is everyone else in healthcare srs.

[_zman]

It's the insurance companies that dictate the price.

It's not a "free" system, if it were a "free" system, doctor joe johnson down the street could underwrite a major hospital and lower the costs country wide. Everyone would go to the cheaper doctor. That's the way it use to be.

You remove the ability to compare and challenged each other's prices and the system is automatically broken.

I don't believe the OPs article/post either, no one is getting rich my arse, the insurance companies are raking it any. You go to any town, and dumpy town at that and the nicest place around is always the hospital.

[Conspiracybrah]

But who was Monopoly and Oligopoly?

Monopolies and oligopolies are largely a result of government activities, not a free market.

[SighGR]

American medical system is the biggest joke in the world. Perpetuates a downward spiral for the poor - no wealth -> no health -> no wealth -> etc. Any Yank who claims "poor people just need to work harder so they can afford health care" should try making a decent/reasonable living when their own health is in the gutter. Health is a basic human right which unfortunately 99% of the world's population does not have proper access to, come at me *******s

Poor people are much better off than the Middle Class.


The US has over 100 million people on government provided insurance.

[kratosbrah]

It isnt so bad if people would stop going to the ER and hospital for the dumbest things. A girl i know went into the ER because she felt her heart beating hard when she laid down. Another went to the hospital because she woke up and felt dizzy when she went to the bathroom in a hurry. I only go to the hospital if i absolutely must. I woke up with extreme heart attack like symptoms last week, I went for a quick jog and the pain went away. Saved myself a whole ordeal at the ER.

And this is why Women live longer than Men, because they don't try to tough everything out like morons.

[lestro]

my grandparents both received full-scale cancer treatment and therapy for "free"
i visit the doctor whenever i want to and i get full mental health benefits (counseling, therapy, drugs) -- all for "free."
how?
because there's a gross misconception about american health care among non-americans. it seems almost like they want us to have the most horrendous health care system that they can contrive in their heads

[kratosbrah]

muh freekmarket
muh capitalism
muh rugged individualism
muh rights


lol we're so behind in healthcare, it's sad... falling behind in education and STEM, too.

[UGK4lyfe]

I see it all the time, lazies gon lazy. We should live in a darwinistic society, if you cant pay or afford food, tough chit you die. dead srs

You seeing it all of the time doesn't make it the "norm." Do you know how small of a portion of poor people actually have cars, let alone rims? Also, it's not as easy to get public housing or food stamps as people seem to think. For one, public housing 99% of the time is only given to single women with kids or the elderly.