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    Circuit Training or Heavy Weight Training

    Hi.

    I'm a 47 year old female who is overweight. I need to lose about 75 lbs and currently am at 41% bmi. I am following Weight Watchers. I have a gym membership and just about every workout dvd and system known.

    My question is this....though there is not a quick fix, which will benefit me as far as weight/fat loss better: circuit training or heavy weight training? I have been reading books, magazines and internet searches and getting mixed information. I'm getting a down, and feeling overwelmed.

    Any information you can give me (especially if personal experience) would be much appreciated!
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    Weight training to accompany weight loss always - otherwise you will lose muscle, you won't get the shape you want, your metabolism will drop, you risk rebound fat gain etc. It's generally bad news.

    Cardio or circuits are a good adjunct to a correct diet - but are entirely optional, you can equally well control your calories consumed instead of burning them off after consuming them.
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    Thanks for replying so quick. I should probably emphasize that the circuit training I'm referring to would incorporate weights.....interval training of alternating cardio and weights, or weights which cause a cardio affect. Do you think heavy weight training with seperate cardio or circuit/interval training is what I should do?

    Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch View Post
    Weight training to accompany weight loss always - otherwise you will lose muscle, you won't get the shape you want, your metabolism will drop, you risk rebound fat gain etc. It's generally bad news.

    Cardio or circuits are a good adjunct to a correct diet - but are entirely optional, you can equally well control your calories consumed instead of burning them off after consuming them.
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    i used to be 275 lbs

    stick to compounds, cardio and diet. focus on cardio and perfect your form on the compound lifts with light weights for the next 3 months, then as you get more fit less cardio and use heavier weights each session. no need for circuit training imo, weightloss is more about your diet.
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    You can do heavy weight training and circuit training at the same time.

    That is how I train.

    Pick 3-4 exercises

    Such as Squat, Bent over row, and Bench press

    Train them under strength parameters but do them in a circuit.

    So do a setof squat, then a set of bench press, then a set of rows. And by the time you have finished and are back to squat, it has probably been 2 to 2 and a half minutes since you last squatted, which is great for strength training.

    This, of course, is only if you can take up multiple areas/machines without people getting too annoyed.

    Hope this helped.
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    Originally Posted by pollytc View Post
    Thanks for replying so quick. I should probably emphasize that the circuit training I'm referring to would incorporate weights.....interval training of alternating cardio and weights, or weights which cause a cardio affect. Do you think heavy weight training with seperate cardio or circuit/interval training is what I should do?
    The problem with weights in circuit training is that you aren't using enough intensity (this word has a very particular meaning in weight training) to preserve or grow muscle tissue. You need to do a proper barbell training routine IMO.

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    Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch View Post
    The problem with weights in circuit training is that you aren't using enough intensity (this word has a very particular meaning in weight training) to preserve or grow muscle tissue. You need to do a proper barbell training routine IMO.

    ^^^^This.

    Forget "circuit" training; it's an inefficient use of your gym time.
    No brain, no gain.

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    Originally Posted by ProFitnessPlans View Post
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH seriously? KNOW YOUR CLIENT. She's 47 y/o F. What's intense for you is NOT the same as her. Machines simply because you can find the correct weight FAST. You can progress to whatever months or years later but Everyone SHOULD NOT be doing barbell squats, snatches etc etc etc... Goto google scholar type in effectiveness of circuit or interval training for weight loss.
    Who said anything about "intense?"

    I don't need "Google Scholar" to tell me what works and what doesn't. Weight training can be scaled to anyone, regardless of age, gender, or even if they're in a wheelchair.
    No brain, no gain.

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    Originally Posted by ProFitnessPlans View Post
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH seriously? KNOW YOUR CLIENT. She's 47 y/o F. What's intense for you is NOT the same as her. Machines simply because you can find the correct weight FAST. You can progress to whatever months or years later but Everyone SHOULD NOT be doing barbell squats, snatches etc etc etc... Goto google scholar type in effectiveness of circuit or interval training for weight loss.
    I know of world class coaches that are happy to start total novices of all types using free weights.

    We know circuit training can help weight loss but what about muscle preservation? Show me the study that indicates it is as effective as weight training...

    Read this if you wish to further understand my views on the role of cardiovascular exercise for dieting purposes:
    http://www.simplyshredded.com/nutrit...edded-com.html
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    Originally Posted by ProFitnessPlans View Post
    I am a trainer.
    Bevans, by your own admission, you've only had 1 client aside from yourself, in 8 years. Double your client base in the next 8 years, and you'll still be in the 90%, that gives the other 10% of trainers ...

    ... a bad name.
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    I have the same dilemma with my sister at the moment. I have decided to start her with the same workout I am doing, but substitute BB (45lbs. most likely to heavy to start) for all DB work. I figure we can do everything with db's. Looking for advice and opinions on this, anything I should cut/add?

    A day

    Squat
    Bench
    Rows
    Curls
    Dips (what could I sub or just scratch this, or weighted dip machine?)

    B day

    Pull ups (what could I sub or weighted pull up machine not sure if she could do that quite yet though?)
    Deads
    Military Press
    Standing Calf Raises
    Abs

    I planned on just starting her with 5lb. DB's until form is decent and then increasing and working on form accordingly. Any help appreciated.
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    Try as much BB as possible, switch to DB as necessary. Sub the dips w/ an overhead DB tri extension or skullcrushers. Pullups will be a sticking point; use a chair or some other assist and do negative-only reps till she builds up strength to do full ROM. Rest of it looks fine.
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    Originally Posted by SkydogGinsberg View Post
    Try as much BB as possible, switch to DB as necessary. Sub the dips w/ an overhead DB tri extension or skullcrushers. Pullups will be a sticking point; use a chair or some other assist and do negative-only reps till she builds up strength to do full ROM. Rest of it looks fine.
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    Originally Posted by pollytc View Post
    Hi.

    I'm a 47 year old female who is overweight. I need to lose about 75 lbs and currently am at 41% bmi. I am following Weight Watchers. I have a gym membership and just about every workout dvd and system known.

    My question is this....though there is not a quick fix, which will benefit me as far as weight/fat loss better: circuit training or heavy weight training? I have been reading books, magazines and internet searches and getting mixed information. I'm getting a down, and feeling overwelmed.

    Any information you can give me (especially if personal experience) would be much appreciated!
    If you're new to weights in general i'd suggest starting off with one set for each bodypart on machines. You're just starting out, slightly older, and overweight (not being disrespectful, i started in a similar position) so even circuit training can over train you. Your goal right now should be to just build up the consistency of going to the gym and getting a feel of the weights. AFter 3-6 months re-assess and go from there. Good luck with your goals and keep us informed!
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