COMPLETE WEIGHT STALL. need advice

[packattack87]

Been the same weight for about 3 weeks. Calories been below 2000 and I'm extremely active. Refeeds no help, just shifting water weight. What now? Try eating at maintenance for a week and go back? Ughh so frustrating. Reps for direction... anyone else experience this and get over it?

[DoiLift]

same problem for me... except its over a 2 month span

[packattack87]

Bump

[Vaylor]

Lower your calorie intake.

[packattack87]

Lower your calorie intake.

Down from 1700? On top of heavy lifting and cardio? Just doesn't make sense to me...

[Vaylor]

Well I would say you need to count your calories better, but since your response will be obvious it is simply easier to recommend that you lower your calories.

[packattack87]

Well I would say you need to count your calories better, but since your response will be obvious it is simply easier to recommend that you lower your calories.

I weigh and track everything including gum... 1500 cals I guess is my only option.

[calutaxi]

Been the same weight for about 3 weeks. Calories been below 2000 and I'm extremely active. Refeeds no help, just shifting water weight. What now? Try eating at maintenance for a week and go back? Ughh so frustrating. Reps for direction... anyone else experience this and get over it?

I go through spurty drops myself. I'll be stable weight wise for a while (my worst was 2 months) and then drop a bunch. I'd think if you're eating yourself close to maintenance, your losses would taper down. That kind of depends on what you're going for deficit wise though.

[packattack87]

I go through spurty drops myself. I'll be stable weight wise for a while (my worst was 2 months) and then drop a bunch. I'd think if you're eating yourself close to maintenance, your losses would taper down. That kind of depends on what you're going for deficit wise though.

My maintenance appears to be around 2500-2700. Finding it extremely hard to believe not even a lb lost on a 700 cal deficit for 3 weeks.

[FattyMcTubbs]

Either reverse diet for a few weeks or try PSMF for a short bit.

[packattack87]

Either reverse diet for a few weeks or try PSMF for a short bit.

Just looked up psmf, I think I'll be giving this a try. If this fails, reverse diet was where I was leaning. Appreciate the suggestion, repped.

On r/c will get back asap

[FattyMcTubbs]

My maintenance appears to be around 2500-2700. Finding it extremely hard to believe not even a lb lost on a 700 cal deficit for 3 weeks.

Your maintenance is 2700 or was 2700 when you started your cut?
Every time you have to adjust your calories to keep weight loss constant, it means your maintenance has dropped.

[Goldfurnace]

Do not lower calories, Raise calories instead by 200, add HIIT 10-15 min one day of the week. Keep the refeed.

Experienced cutter here went from 220 to 164, 23% to 11% in 9 months, did it right saved all of my gains.

Began with 2500 for a few months with liss 15 min a day on the tread, lowered to 2000+liss for the next couple months, stalled, lowered to 1800 no cardio till stall, went on IF till stall, raised to 2000+refeed+IF+HIIT and broke through the plateau.

all of this with a 6 day heavy lifting split baby.

I asked the exact same question when I made a thread once when I stalled, they also told me to lower calories.. I just wasn't having non of that BS, did some research about metabolism and how it stalls and how to rev it back up.

The metabolism sinks over time on a cut, don't be a fool and slip calories even further, do some research also about plataues and how to break them thats where I learned.

[blindspot13]

Sounds like you're not measuring / tracking your calories correctly. And you shouldn't be doing refeeds unless you're at competition level bodyfat%, if you're like 16%+ and just trying to lose weight they aren't advisable. Also, don't do PSMF just because you've "stalled" for a couple of weeks. If you think you're right, just keep pushing through and the weight will move. My guess is you're just eating a lot more than you think.

And to the guy who said he's been plateaud for 2 months, you are clearly not counting correctly.

[packattack87]

Your maintenance is 2700 or was 2700 when you started your cut?
Every time you have to adjust your calories to keep weight loss constant, it means your maintenance has dropped.

Was 2700 when started, but even still if it has dropped I should still be in a deficit under 2k.

[packattack87]

Sounds like you're not measuring / tracking your calories correctly. And you shouldn't be doing refeeds unless you're at competition level bodyfat%, if you're like 16%+ and just trying to lose weight they aren't advisable. Also, don't do PSMF just because you've "stalled" for a couple of weeks. If you think you're right, just keep pushing through and the weight will move. My guess is you're just eating a lot more than you think.

And to the guy who said he's been plateaud for 2 months, you are clearly not counting correctly.

Trust me when I say I weigh and count everything including gum. I wouldn't be posting if I wasn't 100% sure there werent any flaws in my planning.

Edit: I'm not 16+, I would say I'm closer to 12-13%

[Tommy W.]

You stall because you're at maintenance. Period...............
You say you're at X cals but if you're correct or not it doesn't matter. Do whatever you're doing and drop 200 per day or expend another 200 with activity. There is no secret voodoo to this.

[packattack87]

You stall because you're at maintenance. Period...............
You say you're at X cals but if you're correct or not it doesn't matter. Do whatever you're doing and drop 200 per day or expend another 200 with activity. There is no secret voodoo to this.

Hoping for a whoosh effect. Going to drop cals again now I'm down to 1500 and highly active. Sorry but there is no way I'm at maintenance below 2k. I appreciate the help but I can't believe that to be true.

[Tommy W.]

Hoping for a whoosh effect. Going to drop cals again now I'm down to 1500 and highly active. Sorry but there is no way I'm at maintenance below 2k. I appreciate the help but I can't believe that to be true.

You need to count everything that goes in your mouth, even catsup and mustard. The numbers dont matter though. You could be figuring however you want to. Most people are off by a good amount so don't go by numbers, just eat less than you're eating now however you're figuring your cals.

[retro36]

My maintenance appears to be around 2500-2700. Finding it extremely hard to believe not even a lb lost on a 700 cal deficit for 3 weeks.

While the lower your BF the longer you plateau. I doubt your maintenance is that high and it sounds like your metabolism has stalled.

[calutaxi]

And to the guy who said he's been plateaud for 2 months, you are clearly not counting correctly.

That was me, and I wasn't completely "stalled" but I had way underpar losses for 8 weeks (followed by 2 weeks of physiologically impossible drops) until everything finally fell into place. After 10 weeks I was at where I should have been, BUT the majority of that was at the very end.

If you're eating closer to your maintenance your losses would taper, not magically stop. Lets say "Joe" has a deficit of -500 for 2 months. In that time he's losing about 1lb per week as he should. Now he keeps eating at the same level without readjusting for loss (looks to be similar to what OP is doing). He's not going to drop from a -500 deficit to maintenance right away, it's going to be gradual. As he eats closer to maintenance he's going to see slower losses over a period of time (.75lbs, then .5lbs,etc).

If intake and TDEE are right (along with deficit), then any stall is likely to be fluid retention. Holding water for that long probably isn't THAT common, but it's happened to me.

[amberhulk]

Think it is a metabolism issue. If nothing works for me, i would go at maintenance for few weeks or even slow bulk to gain 5-10lbs and have a go again with a higher LBM.

[DJBrickman]

While the lower your BF the longer you plateau. I doubt your maintenance is that high and it sounds like your metabolism has stalled.

Is it more likely that the OP has reached his maintenance calorie intake, is counting something wrong or that some body function which takes years to modify at all, is the culprit for his stall in weight loss? I believe that the OP is counting his calories fairly accurate, so that leads me to believe he needs to drop his calories a bit to regain his weight loss. I however don't buy into any of the metabolism stalling bull**** that gets tossed around this forum.

Please stop unless you can find a scientific study that proves that a persons metabolism can "stall" in 3 weeks. Until you can show that please quit it with the Broscience.

Thanks

[Tommy W.]

Is it more likely that the OP has reached his maintenance calorie intake, is counting something wrong or that some body function which takes years to modify at all, is the culprit for his stall in weight loss? I believe that the OP is counting his calories fairly accurate, so that leads me to believe he needs to drop his calories a bit to regain his weight loss. I however don't buy into any of the metabolism stalling bull**** that gets tossed around this forum.

Please stop unless you can find a scientific study that proves that a persons metabolism can "stall" in 3 weeks. Until you can show that please quit it with the Broscience.

Thanks

^^^^^^THIS
When you drop fat your maintenance lowers because you're hauling around less weight all day

[n0useforaname]

Holy mother of pearl.....

OP... what do your macros look like?

Also, 5' 10" eating at 1700 and going to drop to 1500? No...just no. Sorry, but if anyone on here thinks that a male his size should consume less than my child, you are crazy.

There's lots of reasons the scale could stall. You could be experiencing the "woosh effect".. you could have too little fat in your diet.. you could be trying to cut to aggressively.. you could actually be losing bodyfat still, but the scale doesn't move.. or it might take another week or so. You have to realize that the leaner you get, the less it just "falls off". At your build, you could spend 2 months trying to burn of another 6-8 pounds.

Please post macros...

At this point you may have to reverse diet for a bit.

[SullyDale]

I may get flamed for this....but being I lost 50lbs of fat while gaining muscle I'll tell you what worked for me...very simple....have a over the top day...eat all kind of BS...cake...snickers bars...the worst things you can think of....that night you'll feel like sh*t and then the next day go back to your regular diet....I'd be a pound lighter that third day....sounds stupid....and makes no sense....but it worked for me.

[unleashthelion]

Come on, guys.

When I read some of your posts, I feel like I'm reading discussions on the sun's rotation around the Earth.

[Tommy W.]

Holy mother of pearl.....

OP... what do your macros look like?

Also, 5' 10" eating at 1700 and going to drop to 1500? No...just no. Sorry, but if anyone on here thinks that a male his size should consume less than my child, you are crazy.

There's lots of reasons the scale could stall. You could be experiencing the "woosh effect".. you could have too little fat in your diet.. you could be trying to cut to aggressively.. you could actually be losing bodyfat still, but the scale doesn't move.. or it might take another week or so. You have to realize that the leaner you get, the less it just "falls off". At your build, you could spend 2 months trying to burn of another 6-8 pounds.

Please post macros...

At this point you may have to reverse diet for a bit.

Doubtful that OP is at 1,700. Maybe a few days a week but if he adds up TRUE numbers for a week and divides by 7 that will be more than 1,700

[n0useforaname]

He said he weighs and tracks everything, though.. what makes you believe he doesn't?

[Tommy W.]

He said he weighs and tracks everything, though.. what makes you believe he doesn't?

Then added activity needs to happen if the numbers are correct. Going to 1,500 won't allow for proper nutrition. At that age and height It's hard to believe the numbers are correct.