Question for Tmisc Christians

[Jalexander1994]

The bible says God created the heavens and the Earth.

So the moon must be considered part of the heavens? I didn't think mortal man could set foot in the heavens.

I REALLY need to stop posting here..

But what you just said made no sense.. Whatsoever and was completely irrelevant to this whole entire conversation..

[danielaq12]

I REALLY need to stop posting here..

But what you just said made no sense.. Whatsoever and was completely irrelevant to this whole entire conversation..

Answer mine!

For anybody who has a religion, answer. There are hundreds of different religions; what makes yours real and the others fake? What makes you different from the Aztecs who sacrificed people to their gods? Each religion believes their own is the only true one, so say Islam is the real religion, then wouldnt all Jews be punished after death? But then from other viewpoints, Judaism is real. Then all muslims would suffer after death. So whos right?

From this i believe that all religion is fake

[jz416]

Answer mine!

He cant. Nobody can.

[RollTideNation]

He cant. Nobody can.

Not sure if serious.

Did you read the thread? I answered it. You are an arrogant piece of trash. Do this forum a favor and stop posting. The Christians ITT have been very polite and respectful; it's the atheists, especially you, who are being pricks.

[jiggly_puff]

So I'm guessing that your logic behind saying that God does not exist is through science? You can't see God, you can't feel God, you can't hear God, therefore he does not exist. Am I correct?

I could say the same thing about fairies, santa claus, and dragons. do they exist as well? if not, can you prove it?

not trying to sound like a smug atheist, just curious how you'll respond.

[Jalexander1994]

Answer mine!

Ermahgersh ok.

The same could be applied to you. What makes your beliefs right?
It's the faith in your belief. I believe I'm right. You believe you are. You believe in scientists who say the earth was made from either an explosion, or evolution. I believe in the Bible. And scientists that also agree in creation. It's a faith matter.

[danielaq12]

Ermahgersh ok.

The same could be applied to you. What makes your beliefs right?
It's the faith in your belief. I believe I'm right. You believe you are. You believe in scientists who say the earth was made from either an explosion, or evolution. I believe in the Bible. And scientists that also agree in creation. It's a faith matter.

Fair enough, pretty much what id say myself and what i actually thought about while writing the post.

[MattMD]

I REALLY need to stop posting here..

But what you just said made no sense.. Whatsoever and was completely irrelevant to this whole entire conversation..

It was a question of mine to Christians ITT.

Genesis 1 says God created Earth and the heavens. So everything else in the universe besides Earth is considered part of the heavens. Following that logic, how was man able to reach "the heavens" (moon) without going into the afterlife?

[jiggly_puff]

It was a question of mine to Christians ITT.

Genesis 1 says God created Earth and the heavens. So everything else in the universe besides Earth is considered part of the heavens. Following that logic, how was man able to reach "the heavens" (moon) without going into the afterlife?

brb taking the bible literally

[Jalexander1994]

It was a question of mine to Christians ITT.

Genesis 1 says God created Earth and the heavens. So everything else in the universe besides Earth is considered part of the heavens. Following that logic, how was man able to reach "the heavens" (moon) without going into the afterlife?

"Heavens" in the Bible is split into two. It goes to the original writings. Heavens was sometimes used for the stars and planets. And other times it was used to describe heaven with God. Man cannot reach heaven with God. But man can reach space.

[RollTideNation]

I could say the same thing about fairies, santa claus, and dragons. do they exist as well? if not, can you prove it?

not trying to sound like a smug atheist, just curious how you'll respond.

If you can't see something, hear it, feel it, smell it, etc, it does not exist.

The same could be said about your soul.

I have never seen your soul, felt it, smelled, it, heard it, etc. What can prove to me that your soul exists?

[jiggly_puff]

If you can't see something, hear it, feel it, smell it, etc, it does not exist.

The same could be said about your brain, or your soul.

I have never seen your brain, felt your brain, heard your brain, smelled your brain, or anything. What is there to lead me to believe that your brain exists? Same goes for your heart. And your soul.

Common sense would lead you to believe my brain and heart both exist. It is a known fact that humans need a brain and heart to survive, i am a human therefor I have a heart and a brain. as for my soul, there is nothing to lead you to believe it exists because it does not exist.

[Jalexander1994]

Common sense would lead you to believe my brain and heart both exist. It is a known fact that humans need a brain and heart to survive, i am a human therefor I have a heart and a brain. as for my soul, there is nothing to lead you to believe it exists because it does not exist.

So to you, we're empty shells?

[RollTideNation]

Common sense would lead you to believe my brain and heart both exist. It is a known fact that humans need a brain and heart to survive, i am a human therefor I have a heart and a brain. as for my soul, there is nothing to lead you to believe it exists because it does not exist.

Let me switch gears for a second. Do you think that there is such thing as darkness? Like, there is light and then there is dark... Or what about dryness?

[jiggly_puff]

So to you, we're empty shells?

"I" am a human with a consciousness, which you could say is fairly similar to most people's view of a soul i suppose.

Let me switch gears for a second. Do you think that there is such thing as darkness? Like, there is light and then there is dark... Or what about dryness?

i think darkness is an absence of light and dryness is the absence of moisture. or are you talking metaphorically?

[RollTideNation]

"I" am a human with a consciousness, which you could say is fairly similar to most people's view of a soul i suppose.


i think darkness is an absence of light and dryness is the absence of moisture. or are you talking metaphorically?

You are correct. Darkness is just that. An absence of light. Same goes for dryness. These are absences. If this were incorrect, you could make darkness darker, or remove moisture from dryness.

Do you believe that there is such thing as evil?

[superstylr]

I'm sorry, but some of you guys are really phucking ignorant. It's sad to see how bad it is with some of you people. Don't get me wrong, I don't care what you do or don't believe in, but have some respect for other people's beliefs, whether or not you think they're justified. Grow up.

So you respect the beliefs of the 9/11 hijackers, who believed they were doing god's work?

Ermahgersh ok.

The same could be applied to you. What makes your beliefs right?
It's the faith in your belief. I believe I'm right. You believe you are. You believe in scientists who say the earth was made from either an explosion, or evolution. I believe in the Bible. And scientists that also agree in creation. It's a faith matter.

The scientific method objectively and methodically uses data and experimentation to to test and verify hypotheses, continuously developing as new information become available.

You take the writings of a bunch of books and scriptures written thousands of years ago to be fact, with no possibility of innovation.

See the difference?

[Jalexander1994]

So you respect the beliefs of the 9/11 hijackers, who believed they were doing god's work?



The scientific method objectively and methodically uses data and experimentation to to test and verify hypotheses, continuously developing as new information become available.

You take the writings of a bunch of books and scriptures written thousands of years ago to be fact, with no possibility of innovation.

See the difference?

But as I stated there are also Christian scientists.

And on top of that, evolutionary scientists hold a bias. As do Christian scientists. So using science as a "disproving" of Christianity is irrelevant.

[SilverBackk]

How about this old classic...


WHY ARE YOU EVEN CHRISTIAN ?11?1?111?1

[BigStewTheJew]

For anybody who has a religion, answer. There are hundreds of different religions; what makes yours real and the others fake? What makes you different from the Aztecs who sacrificed people to their gods? Each religion believes their own is the only true one, so say Islam is the real religion, then wouldnt all Jews be punished after death? But then from other viewpoints, Judaism is real. Then all muslims would suffer after death. So whos right?

From this i believe that all religion is fake

In my opinion, religion is just different ways of expressing someone's faith to god. No matter which religion, I believe it is the same god.

[jiggly_puff]

You are correct. Darkness is just that. An absence of light. Same goes for dryness. These are absences. If this were incorrect, you could make darkness darker, or remove moisture from dryness.

Do you believe that there is such thing as evil?

i think "evil" is much too subjective. i believe people are capable of doing evil things and and many would consider them evil but i don't think people are inherently evil. i think people are basically blank slates as babies then shaped by their experiences.

[RollTideNation]

i think "evil" is much too subjective. i believe people are capable of doing evil things and and many would consider them evil but i don't think people are inherently evil. i think people are basically blank slates as babies then shaped by their experiences.

So you are saying that someone who does evil things is still good inside?

[superstylr]

But as I stated there are also Christian scientists.

And on top of that, evolutionary scientists hold a bias. As do Christian scientists. So using science as a "disproving" of Christianity is irrelevant.

Yes, there are Christian scientists, along with Jewish, Muslim and Hindu scientists, and? It doesn't alter the fact that creationism cannot be scientific, since it cannot be tested, nor observed.

Every person has bias of course... the fundament of the scientific method is that it ignores biases and subjectivity. Not "irrelevant" in the slightest...

[RollTideNation]

Yes, there are Christian scientists, along with Jewish, Muslim and Hindu scientists, and? It doesn't alter the fact that creationism cannot be scientific, since it cannot be tested.

Every person has bias of course... the fundament of the scientific method is that it ignores biases and subjectivity. Not "irrelevant" in the slightest...

No one has ever observed the process of evolution and can't prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not arguing about your opinion? Does that not make you a preacher?

[Jalexander1994]

Yes, there are Christian scientists, along with Jewish, Muslim and Hindu scientists, and? It doesn't alter the fact that creationism cannot be scientific, since it cannot be tested.

Every person has bias of course... the fundament of the scientific method is that it ignores biases and subjectivity. Not "irrelevant" in the slightest...

My point was that Christian scientists will always have different points of view than the Athiest scientists. So you trying to use science against creationism is irrelevant cause then I could use science against evolution. And it gets us both no where.

[MilkBender]

You can do something to help, right now actually. Go out and try and convert as many people as possible, that is how you can help. So instead of calling people hypocrites, go help right now, you yourself are the biggest hypocrite.

Your post is completely ignorant.

it's like lifting, you can try to get people to join the gym but if they don't want to, it's their loss. you get to be swole and they don't




that being said I'm not a christian

[superstylr]

No one has ever observed the process of evolution and can't prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not arguing about your opinion? Does that not make you a preacher?

Evolution has been observed many times in many organisms...

My point was that Christian scientists will always have different points of view than the Athiest scientists. So you trying to use science against creationism is irrelevant cause then I could use science against evolution. And it gets us both no where.

To what degree could you use science against evolution? We might not be able to change each others minds that is true, but the debate is necessary, other wise there would be no progress at all. Galileo was charged with heresey and imprisoned by the Catholic church for saying that the Earth orbited around the sun.. we have come a long way since then (in some parts of the world at least. You still get beheaded in Saudi Arabia for blasphemy).

[Mootkelgg]

Evolution has been observed many times in many organisms...

I believe the man was talking about macro evolution, not micro evolution. Huge difference if i remember correctly.
No reports of macro evolution have been scientifically proven.

[MeatloaffPatty]

All religions are just stories to make the common person behave accordingly and do the 'Right' things to get to 'heaven'. Aliens are the culprit of the creation of man.

Worthy. repped.

[LNCB96]