Why do illegal immigrants think they have a right to be here? (srs)

[xSlick1x]

IMO they are essential to provide us with a workforce thats willing to do whatever it takes.

Though what pisses me off is when they have 5-6 kids and put them through our public schools without paying taxes.

Don't forget the free hospital visits while we pay through the teeth!


I remember awhile back some town in Mexico's mayor wrote a letter to the governor of some state (Arizona I believe) asking that they please stop deporting them back because there was not enough jobs and it was a drain on the town's economy. Lol wut?!!!! So WE should be burdened and let them drain us?!!!


I have no problem with anyone trying to make a better life for themselves and their families, it's noble and basic human nature. That being said there's a correct way and an illegal way. Someone who broke and is breaking the law just to be here shouldn't then be allowed to leach on a system where the people who do things correctly have to flip the bill! Only in the head of someone with more empathy than brains is this the right thing to do. I love how our society is coerced by people who are more worried about someone who snuck over the border in darkness of night with no background check (could be ex cartel, gang member, child molester, etc) than the well being of their neighbor. It baffles my mind.

[folly412]

Though what pisses me off is when they have 5-6 kids and put them through our public schools without paying taxes.

Agree. 5-6 might be an understatement in some cases. Come here and make a better life for yourself, but don't procreate like rabbits.

[Banksy101]

Inb4 I am Indian and let me tell you copypasta

[IDontPlay247]

i am indian and let me tell you, being indian is actually a great thing. we have beautiful people and we have ugly people. just like any race. I for 1 am a great person, have great friends, and i take care of every one that is in my life and i am glad to do it, and for that i have people that love me around me. also, indian parents are one of the best parents you can have. sometimes they can be really strict, but they will take care of you no matter what, and they will buy you what ever it is that you need. as long as your not a selfish ****head. Also, we all have great jobs, lots of money and a family that we all love and take care off. suck my dick op suck my dick.

[shinigami92]

i am indian and let me tell you, being indian is actually a great thing. we have beautiful people and we have ugly people. just like any race. I for 1 am a great person, have great friends, and i take care of every one that is in my life and i am glad to do it, and for that i have people that love me around me. also, indian parents are one of the best parents you can have. sometimes they can be really strict, but they will take care of you no matter what, and they will buy you what ever it is that you need. as long as your not a selfish ****head. Also, we all have great jobs, lots of money and a family that we all love and take care off. suck my dick op suck my dick.

I'm an Indian as well, what's your point?

[xY2Jx]

It's sickening how many people have no problem/support illegal immigration, especially ITT. You have people stealing, breaking laws and taking jobs right in front of your face, but you seem to be content with that.. Teens can't get basic jobs at fast food places, qualified welders construction workers etc can't get jobs because illegals will work for less, illegals commit crimes and then can't be traced down... They pay no taxes, but then send their earnings back home then pop out several kids to leech off the healthcare and welfare system yet people continue to give them the blind eye.

You don't know how frustrating it is to walk into the emergency room to see a whole bunch of these people waiting for treatment... Most of the fast food places, grocery stores and corner shops have chinese and Indian workers who can't speak a lick of english. Do these idiots deserve to work?

[RyzinEnagy]

they ****ed up the construction job market now alot of those jobs only pay 10hr because of southern youth willing to work hard for that

Lets not act like Americans are dying to do hard manual labor, even in 10% unemployment:

Hiring Locally for Farm Work Is No Cure-All: Farmers Strain to Hire Americans

All of the "they take our jobs" people need to educate themselves.

[DAIRISHMAN85]

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money...ntstaxes_N.htm
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/income...-Taxes-Too.htm
http://seattletimes.com/html/nationw...igtaxes29.html

still think they dont pay taxes?

[OddsBodkin]

im a US citizen and when people start talking "immigrants do the jobs americans wont do"

thats a bunch of crazy talk.

We have more highschool dropouts than we know what to do with. Demand for low skilled labor is dropping due the automation and technological advances. The US is just scared to tell high school dropout and teenagers what to do. srs. because the American leadership is weak. We don't need more low skilled labor, we need less of it to increase wages. Immigrants keep wages suppressed too. US leadership are a bunch of weak nonlifting *******s.

brb China will rape us anyway in 20 years so who even cares.

[amtharin]

IMO they are essential to provide us with a workforce thats willing to do whatever it takes.

Though what pisses me off is when they have 5-6 kids and put them through our public schools without paying taxes.

^^^ Welcomes low educated/skilled workers

Probably also bitches about income inequality.

[suave2000]

After soviet Russia Collapse i came to America to want to better life. I murdered Lt. Solonitsyn back in Moscow and took his rubles to but ticket to America. I am now living big life stealing jobs and your women, life is good comrade!

i can confirm i am Soviet illegal immigrant pounding OP's mom.

[F2.]

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money...ntstaxes_N.htm
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/income...-Taxes-Too.htm
http://seattletimes.com/html/nationw...igtaxes29.html

still think they dont pay taxes?

you dumb enough to think that those few who actually are, come anywhere close to making up for the loss of money caused by the ones that aren't? free hospital, welfare, and all that is waaaaay more than the little taxes a couple of them pay.

[MrBrosephStalin]

I don't know why people keep lumping together legal immigration with the illegal immigration issue. That is completely different. I think immigration to this country should be incredibly easy as that is one of the major perks of our nation, being that we are a melting pot of culture and of the world's best innovators, melding together ideas from all around the world. IMO we need immigration reform to make it easy to allow future citizens in our country who want to be productive. As for illegal immigrants, they had no respect for our law and broke it. We can't just deport them all out, that is completely illogical and I'm sure Mexico or their home country would not like that either. We should give them amnesty but only after we make legal immigration easier while trying to take measures to reduce illegal immigration. After we take those measures, we can give amnesty to those illegal immigrants in the nation but not for further generations of illegal immigrants.

[DAIRISHMAN85]

you dumb enough to think that those few who actually are, come anywhere close to making up for the loss of money caused by the ones that aren't? free hospital, welfare, and all that is waaaaay more than the little taxes a couple of them pay.

I gave you three sources, how about you give me one for your argument?

[BullStampede]

It's sickening how many people have no problem/support illegal immigration, especially ITT. You have people stealing, breaking laws and taking jobs right in front of your face, but you seem to be content with that.. Teens can't get basic jobs at fast food places, qualified welders construction workers etc can't get jobs because illegals will work for less, illegals commit crimes and then can't be traced down... They pay no taxes, but then send their earnings back home then pop out several kids to leech off the healthcare and welfare system yet people continue to give them the blind eye.

You don't know how frustrating it is to walk into the emergency room to see a whole bunch of these people waiting for treatment... Most of the fast food places, grocery stores and corner shops have chinese and Indian workers who can't speak a lick of english. Do these idiots deserve to work?

this. speaking as a legal immigrant, **** those guys. follow the rules.

[xY2Jx]

my question is this: are all the people saying immigrants should be kicked out actually around immigrants? To all the people saying they have a right to be here, have you ever been around immigrants, and Im not talking about the guy who mows your lawn. I live in Albuquerque,NM and I can tell you there's immigrants standing openly on the corner of what they call the war zone here selling dope all day. They shoot each other constantly, sell each other drugs, rape each others sisters, and NEVER hire anyone of any other race. On the other hand my best friend is mexican, and his family treats me like one of their own. Really hard working good people. Stop being stupid and judge people individually. you cant say somebody is bad because of where they come from or what race they are, you judge them on their personal actions

No one here want's legal immigrants or mexicans deported idiot, we want ILLEGAL ones gone.

My family immigrated to Canada, the US and England, got their degrees or qualifications, good jobs, decent families etc.. This was over 20 years ago. They did it legally, it's not fair that some fools think they can come here and leech of of others to support them.

Btw since you love illegals so much, who is going to house and feed them? Who is going to take care of their healthcare and transportation? Will you kindly do it?

[DAIRISHMAN85]

No one here want's legal immigrants or mexicans deported idiot, we want ILLEGAL ones gone.

My family immigrated to Canada, the US and England, got their degrees or qualifications, good jobs, decent families etc.. This was over 20 years ago. They did it legally, it's not fair that some fools think they can come here and leech of of others to support them.

Btw since you love illegals so much, who is going to house and feed them? Who is going to take care of their healthcare and transportation? Will you kindly do it?

ok IDIOT, let me help YOU out. I didnt say legal or illegal. I asked if people on either side actually knew any IMMIGRANTS (see there, nothing about legal or illegal) they were talking about. If you want my opinion on illegals its this: If you break my countries laws the very first second you step on our soil then you dont love my country or respect it and need to GTFO.

[Dreburden]

Dey terk er derrrb

[F2.]

I gave you three sources, how about you give me one for your argument?

do you really need a source for that? common sense that just a couple hospital visits could easily equal that of taxes paid by a couple hundred

[infrum]

ITT:

Birthrights and arbitrary borders.




Globalisation is the future whether you like it or not, so sit back and enjoy the ride *******s.

[xY2Jx]

ok IDIOT, let me help YOU out. I didnt say legal or illegal. I asked if people on either side actually knew any IMMIGRANTS (see there, nothing about legal or illegal) they were talking about. If you want my opinion on illegals its this: If you break my countries laws the very first second you step on our soil then you dont love my country or respect it and need to GTFO.

Funny, because no one is talking about legal immigrants here. We all respect them for the most part.

You made it seem like you have no problem with illegals working since you posted that crap about illegals paying taxes. You either want illegals out or in. Theres no in between. I don't respect people who break the law or cheat.

I don't understand why the fuking west tolerates this chit? Immigration is useful, but what really is the point of illegal/mass immigration? What positives does it have? Idiot liberals will use the excuse "oh, uh people deserve to have a better chance HURR DURRR". They don't realize the negative effects it has.

If a whole bunch of Canadians were to set up shop in Mexico or India we would be either shot, chopped up, arrested, deported or harrassed.

[Two4OH]

[RyzinEnagy]

do you really need a source for that? common sense that just a couple hospital visits could easily equal that of taxes paid by a couple hundred

If you're going to be so certain and condescending about it, then absolutely.

The net effect of illegals on our economy is pretty much up in the air. A quick Google search will tell you that.

[DAIRISHMAN85]

do you really need a source for that? common sense that just a couple hospital visits could easily equal that of taxes paid by a couple hundred

Yes, I'd rather have a source than your opinion. Not saying your wrong just want to see where your getting your information from. My whole interest in this thread is WHY people think what they dos so I dont see why thats rustling so many peoples jimmies so easy

[Comandante12]

No immigrant has ever taken anything from me. Stfu, op. You are born here with a tremendous amount of opportunity and want to complain about someone who makes less than minimum wage, works strictly for cash and will never have an opportunity to progress pass that point unless there is a fortunate change in their status. You are looking for a bs scapegoat and blaming immigrants for your shortcomings.

Also:

Illegal Immigrants Paid More Taxes Than Romney in 2010
http://www.policymic.com/articles/12...romney-in-2010

[RyzinEnagy]

You either want illegals out or in. Theres no in between. I don't respect people who break the law or cheat.

There's actually a lot of "in between".

What are your views on illegals who came as children, not by their own decision, and would have benefited from the DrEAM Act assuming they were college-bound?

[iron_monster]

Lets not act like Americans are dying to do hard manual labor, even in 10% unemployment:

Hiring Locally for Farm Work Is No Cure-All: Farmers Strain to Hire Americans

All of the "they take our jobs" people need to educate themselves.

Location: New York

Your opinion is invalid ******* until you come to the south

[xY2Jx]

There's actually a lot of "in between".

What are your views on illegals who came as children, not by their own decision, and would have benefited from the DrEAM Act assuming they were college-bound?

That's different. As you said, it was not their decision. There was a story here in Canada about a Jamaican mom who was illegal and was arrested then was SUING the Canadian government for taking her kids away. She should be deported, the kids stay.

[tryhard33]

There are people in Africa who've got it worse, just don't have the benefit of sharing our border, brb lets start sending ships to bring mass amounts of africans here

you guys already did that ... somehow it didn't workout well

[shinigami92]

No immigrant has ever taken anything from me. Stfu, op. You are born here with a tremendous amount of opportunity and want to complain about someone who makes less than minimum wage, works strictly for cash and will never have an opportunity to progress pass that point unless there is a fortunate change in their status. You are looking for a bs scapegoat and blaming immigrants for your shortcomings.

Yeah I'm complaining because they're taking jobs me and other Americans would do you *******