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10-19-2006, 10:40 AM #32
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Originally Posted by Big Daddy Shane*CEO B Built International
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10-19-2006, 07:59 PM #33
I have nothing but the deepest respect for Eric Broser (Bodyfx)--you cant go wrong with that guy.
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Want to create your own supplement line? We can create any product you desire (powders, capsules, dieting aids, testosterone boosters, proteins, you name it, we can make it for you.) Serious inquiries only please (supplements are usually 250 bottle minimum, protein 50 jug minimum) just email Dante@true protein.com and tell me what your interested in
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10-19-2006, 08:02 PM #34
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Originally Posted by TheCore*CEO B Built International
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10-19-2006, 08:03 PM #35
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Originally Posted by DOGGCRAPP*CEO B Built International
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10-19-2006, 08:29 PM #36Originally Posted by sixthsense
And Dante you came right to the rescue (even before you knew it)...
I had a question about the time you would recommend when doing the DC stretching...
And how it effects ones recovery time! How much would it differ if you use it or lose it?
(additional info; I'm a full body guy, training three times a week + rugby on the "off-days")Last edited by TheCore; 10-19-2006 at 08:32 PM.
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10-19-2006, 09:20 PM #37Originally Posted by sixthsense
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11-08-2006, 08:23 AM #38
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11-20-2006, 08:42 PM #39
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Sorry this took me so long! Here is the section that I wrote for the book, BUILDING THE PERFECT BEAST NATURALLY regarding a basic PRRS layout. There are more advanced routines for those who have been on my program for over a year.
BASIC P/RR/S PROTOCOL
Week 1: POWER
The goal during POWER week is to make a direct attack on the Type II A and II B muscle fibers, with an emphasis on the II B’s. These are the higher threshold fibers and the way we get at them is with heavy weights, low reps, and maximal contractions. The goal for this week is to utilize poundage that allows for between 4-6 reps to concentric (positive) failure. The way in which you perform your reps is of great importance during POWER week. I have found that an eccentric (negative) contraction of about 2-4 seconds (depending on the exercise) followed immediately by an explosive concentric contraction works best at nailing those fast-twitch fibers. Remember...even though you will be attempting to explode with the weight during the positive portion of the rep, it will not actually move very quickly due to the heavy load you are lifting. Rest between sets is also very important. Since you want to be able to move as much weight as possible during POWER week, you will be resting about 4-5 minutes between sets in order to fully regenerate ATP and creatine phosphate stores in the muscle cells. As far as the exercises go, choose those that are basic or multi-joint/compound in nature. These include movements like bench presses, squats, deadlifts, military presses and bent rows, which also encourage your body to release more natural testosterone. POWER week workouts will not impart a tremendous pump, but rather will make your muscles feel as if they’ve been smashed with a wrecking ball. Deep muscular soreness from this type of training is to be expected due to the micro-tears that slow, heavy, eccentric contractions can cause to muscle fibers.
·Rep Goal: 4-6
·Rest Between Sets: 4-5 minutes
.Lifting Tempo: 4/0/X (4 second eccentric/0 second pause/explosive concentric)
·Exercise Choice: Mostly free weight multi-joint/compound
Sample POWER Workouts:
CHEST
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Bench Press 3 4-6 4/0/X 5 min
Incline Press 3 4-6 4/0/X 5 min
Weighted Dip 2 4-6 4/0/X 5 min
BACK
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Weighted WG Pull-up 3 4-6 4/0/X 5 min
Underhand Grip Bent Row 3 4-6 3/0/X 5 min
CG Seated Cable Row 2 4-6 3/0/X 4 min
SHOULDERS
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Military Press 3 4-6 4/0/X 5 min
WG Barbell Upright Row 2 4-6 3/0/X 5 min
Bent Lateral 2 4-6 2/0/X 4 min
BICEPS
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Barbell Curl 2 4-6 4/0/X 4 min
Preacher Curl 2 4-6 4/0/X 4 min
Alternating Dumbbell Curl 2 4-6 3/0/X 4 min
TRICEPS
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
CG Bench Press 3 4-6 4/0/X 4 min
Lying Extension 2 4-6 3/0/X 4 min
Dumbbell Overhead Extension 2 4-6 4/0/X 4 min
QUADS
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Bar Squat 3 4-6 4/0/X 5 min
Leg Press 3 4-6 4/0/X 5 min
Leg Extension 2 4-6 4/0/X 4 min
HAMSTRINGS
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Lying Leg Curl 2 4-6 4/0/X 4 min
Stiff-Leg Deadlift 3 4-6 4/0/1 5 min
Single Leg Curl 2 4-6 4/0/X 4 min
TRAPEZIUS
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Barbell Shrug 2 4-6 2/0/X 4 min
CG Barbell Upright Row 2 4-6 3/0/X 4 min
LOWER BACK
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Dead Lift 3 4-6 3/1/X 5 min
Good Mornings 2 4-6 4/0/X 5 min
FOREARMS
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Barbell Wrist Curl 2 4-6 2/0/X 3 min
Barbell Reverse Curl 2 4-6 4/0/X 4 min
CALVES
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Calf Press 3 4-6 3/1/X 3 min
Seated Calf Raise 2 4-6 3/1/X 3 min
ABDOMINALS
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Weighted Incline Sit-up 3 6-8* 4/0/2 3 min
Weighted Hanging Straight Leg Raise 2 6-8* 3/0/1 3 min
*I do not believe in going as low as 4-6 reps when it comes to abdominal training. This would require too much resistance, which could cause injury. 6-8 reps is about as low as I feel any trainee should go.
Week 2: REP RANGE
As I mentioned earlier there are several fiber types that lie along the continuum between Type I and Type IIB muscle fibers. The goal of REP RANGE week is to show these “intermediary” fibers no mercy whatsoever by assaulting each and every one of them! We will accomplish this by using three distinct rep ranges (hence the name of this week) for three separate exercises for each body part (although for some smaller body parts only 2 exercises will be used to cover all three rep ranges). The first exercise will be to failure in the range of 7-9 reps. The second will be to failure in the range of 10-12 reps. The final exercise will be to failure in the range of 13-15 reps. In order to make the stimulus this week even more unique from POWER week, there will also be a change in your rep tempo. Both the eccentric and concentric portion of each rep should take 2 seconds to complete, while the mid-point of the movement (stretch position) should be held for one full second. Additionally, if you happen to be using a movement that contains a strong “peak contraction effect,” such as leg extensions, you are also encouraged to hold this portion of the rep for one full second as well before you begin the eccentric portion of the rep. The exercises used this week should be both compound and isolation in nature, with free weights, machines and cables all being fair game. Of course, as you become more experienced with P/RR/S, you are encouraged to experiment with the specific exercises you utilize during REP RANGE week. This will help you to get an idea of what feels most effective to you. Rest between sets during REP RANGE week will be 2-3 minutes. You can expect a tremendous pump and a massive flush of blood to the targeted body parts from these workouts, and possibly some muscle soreness in the days that follow...but we love that kind of pain, don’t we!
·Rep Goal: 7-9; 10-12; 13-15
·Rest Between Sets: 2-3 minutes
·Lifting Tempo: 2/1/2/1* (2 second eccentric/1 second pause/2 second concentric/*1 second pause at peak contraction for movements with this element)
·Exercise Choice: Compound; isolation; machine/cable
Sample REP RANGE Workouts:
CHEST
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Incline Press 3 7-9 2/1/2 3 min
Smith Machine Press to Neck 3 10-12 2/1/2 3 min
Cable Crossover 2 13-15 2/1/2/1 2min
BACK
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
WG T-Bar Row 3 7-9 2/1/2 3 min
Underhand Grip Pull Down 3 10-12 2/1/2/1 2 min
Unilateral Seated Cable Row 2 13-15 2/1/2/1 2 min
SHOULDERS
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Seated Dumbbell Press 3 7-9 2/1/2 3 min
Side Lateral Raise 2 10-12 2/0/2 2 min
Unilateral Cable Bent Lateral 2 13-15 2/0/2/1 2 min
BICEPS
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Incline Dumbbell Curl 2 7-9 2/1/2 3 min
Low Cable Curl 2 10-12 2/1/2/1 2 min
Concentration Curl 2 13-15 2/1/2/1 2 min
TRICEPS
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Weighted Dips 3 7-9 2/0/2 3 min
Rope Press Down 2 10-12 2/0/2/1 2 min
Dumbbell Kick Back 2 13-15 2/0/2/1 2 min
QUADS
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Hack Squat 3 7-9 2/1/2 3 min
Leg Extension 3 10-12 2/0/2/1 2 min
Walking Lunge 2 13-15 (per leg) 2/0/2 3 min
HAMSTRINGS
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Seated Leg Curl 2 7-9 2/0/2/1 3 min
Stiff-Leg Dead Lift 3 10-12 2/1/2 3 min
Unilateral Lying Leg Curl 2 13-15 2/1/2/1 2 min
TRAPEZIUS
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Dumbbell Shrug 2 1 X 7-9, 1 X 10-12 2/1/2/1 2 min
Behind Back Barbell Shrug 2 1 X 10-12, 1 X 13-15 2/0/2/1 2 min
LOWER BACK
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Partial Rack Dead Lift 3 2 X 7-9, 1 X 10-12 2/1/1 3 min
Back Extension 2 13-15 2/1/2/1 2 min
FOREARMS
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Barbell Reverse Wrist Curl 2 1 X 7-9, 1 X 10-12 2/0/1/1 2 min
Behind Back Barbell Wrist Curl 2 1 X 10-12, 1 X 13-15 1/0/1/1 2 min
CALVES
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Standing Calf Raise 3 1 X 7-9, 2 X 10-12 2/1/2/1 2 min
Seated Calf Raise 2 13-15 2/1/2/1 2 min
ABDOMINALS
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Cable Crunch 2 7-9 2/0/2/1 2 min
Hanging Knee Raise 2 10-12 2/1/1 2 min
Side Crunch 1 13-15 (each side) 2/0/1/1 2 min*CEO B Built International
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11-20-2006, 08:43 PM #40
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Week 3: SHOCK
In my opinion, SHOCK week is the most intense and excruciating portion of this routine. It will without a doubt test your ability to withstand pain, fend off nausea, and fight back the tears! SHOCK week separates the men from the boys, the freaks from the fakes! The goal during this week is complete and utter annihilation of every fiber, from slow-twitch, right on up to the fast-twitch Type II A’s; to induce your body to release natural GH (and in turn more IGF-1) like water from a collapsed damn; and to literally “force” your muscles to grow in a “do or die” like fashion! Each grueling session during shock week contains 2 different types of supersets and a punishing dropset for each major body part. The first superset will be performed in what is known as “pre-exhaust” fashion. This means that an isolation movement will be performed first, with a compound movement immediately following. The second superset will be what as known as “post activation,” made famous by European fitness/bodybuilding researcher Michael Gundill. In post activation supersets, it is the compound movement that precedes the isolation movement. Each of these supersets provides a unique stimulus for both your muscles and nervous system. Once you have completed your supersets it is time for a dropset, which will complete the torture that you will impart on your muscles during SHOCK week. Reps for each exercise will be in the range of 8-12, and the tempo will be more rhythmic in nature. An eccentric contraction of just one second will be followed immediately by a concentric contraction of the same speed. There will be no resting (as long as you can handle it) at the top or bottom, as each rep should be performed in a “piston-like” fashion. Rest between sets should only be long enough to allow you to fully catch your breath (cardiovascular recovery), as well as to prepare your mind for the next onslaught (mental recovery). Your individual level of cardiovascular conditioning, as well as your constitution, will determine the length of your rest (as will the exercises being used). Free weights, cables, and machines are all utilized during SHOCK week. My warning to you is that you better be prepared when you enter the gym on SHOCK week, because every workout will leave you breathing with the intensity of a steam engine and a burn that will reach your very core! Fun!
·Rep Goal: For SS… 8-10 for each exercise; For DS… 8-12, followed immediately by 20-30% reduction in weight used, and 4-8 more reps
·Rest Between Sets: Cardiovascular and mental recovery
·Lifting Tempo: 1/0/1 (1 second eccentric/0 second pause/1 second concentric)
·Exercise Choice: Compound; isolation; machine/cable
Sample SHOCK Workouts:
CHEST
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Superset: Incline Flye & Bench Press 2 8-10 each 1/0/1 Cardiovascular/mental recovery (CMR)
Superset: Smith Machine Incline Press & Dumbbell Pullover 2 8-10 each 1/0/1 CMR
Dropset: Pec Deck Machine 1 10-12, drop, 6-8 1/0/1 CMR
BACK
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Superset: Straight Arm Pull Down & WG Bent Row 2 8-10 each 1/0/1 Cardiovascular/mental recovery (CR)
Superset: CG T-Bar Row & Underhand Grip Pull Down 2 8-10 each 1/0/1 CMR
Dropset: Medium Parallel Grip Seated Cable Row 1 10-12, drop, 6-8 1/0/1 CMR
SHOULDERS
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Superset: Seated Bent Lateral & Arnold Dumbbell Press 2 8-10 each 1/0/1 Cardiovascular/mental recovery (CMR)
Superset: WG Barbell Upright Row & Side Lateral Raise 2 8-10 each 1/0/1 CMR
Dropset: Dumbbell Front Raise 1 10-12, drop, 6-8 1/0/1 CMR
BICEPS
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Superset: Incline Dumbbell Curl & Preacher Curl 2 8-10 each 1/0/1 Cardiovascular/mental recovery (CMR)
Superset: Overhead Cable Curl & Barbell Curl 1 8-10 each 1/0/1 CMR
Dropset: Concentration Curl 1 10-12, drop, 4-6 1/0/1 CMR
TRICEPS
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Superset: V-Bar Press Down & Dips Between Benches 2 8-10 each 1/0/1 Cardiovascular/mental recovery (CMR)
Superset: Incline EZ-Bar Overhead Extension & Underhand Grip Press Down 1 8-10 each 1/0/1 CMR
Dropset: Decline Lying EZ-Bar Extension 1 10-12, drop, 6-8 1/0/1 CMR
QUADS
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Superset: Leg Extensions & Barbell Squats 2 8-10 each 1/0/1 Cardiovascular/mental recovery (CMR)
Superset: Leg Press & Leg Extension 2 8-10 each 1/0/1 CMR
Dropset: Smith Lunge 1 10-12, drop, 6-8 1/0/1 CMR
HAMSTRINGS
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Superset: Seated Leg Curl & Leg Press (feet top of platform) 2 8-10 each 1/0/1 Cardiovascular/mental recovery (CMR)
Superset: Stiff- Leg Dead Lift & Lying Leg Curl 2 8-10 each 1/0/1 CMR
Dropset: Standing Unilateral Leg Curl 1 10-12, drop, 4-6 1/0/1 CMR
TRAPEZIUS
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Superset: Seated Dumbbell Shrug & Cable CG Upright Row 2 8-10 each 1/0/1 Cardiovascular/mental recovery (CMR)
Dropset: Barbell Shrug 1 10-12, drop, 6-8 1/0/1 CMR
LOWER BACK
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Superset: Back Extensions & Dead Lifts 2 8-10 each 1/0/1 Cardiovascular/mental recovery (CMR)
Dropset: Good Mornings 1 10-12, drop, 6-8 1/0/1 CMR
FOREARMS
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Superset: Barbell Wrist Curl & Cable Rope Hammer Curl 2 8-10 each 1/0/1 Cardiovascular/mental recovery (CMR)
Dropset: Barbell Reverse Wrist Curl 1 10-12, drop, 4-6 1/0/1 CMR
CALVES
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Superset: Calf Press & Standing Calf Raise 2 8-10 each 1/0/1 Cardiovascular/mental recovery (CMR)
Dropset: Seated Calf Raise 1 10-12, drop, 6-8 1/0/1 CMR
ABDOMINALS
EXERCISE SETS REPS TEMPO REST
Superset: Lying Straight Leg Raise & Incline Sit-Up 2 10-12 each 1/0/1 Cardiovascular/mental recovery (CMR)
Dropset: Twisting Cable Crunch 1 8-10 (to each side), drop, 6-8 (to each side) 1/0/1 CMR
Once you complete a 3-week mini cycle of P/RR/S, simply return to the beginning and repeat. Keep the exercises the same, but strive to train more intensely during the next cycle. Your goal should be to either increase the amount of weight you lift while maintaining the same reps, or, to complete more reps while using the same weights. After 9 full week meso-cycle (three 3-week P/RR/S cycles) it is best to take a full week off from the gym, or to at least engage in one week of very light training to allow you to “recharge your batteries.” After this off (or light) week, it is time to return to P/RR/S, but this time with a new arsenal of exercises to challenge your mind, muscles, and nervous system with. Changes do not necessarily have to be dramatic. Something as simple as switching from barbell bench press to dumbbell bench press is often enough to stimulate new growth and strength gains. Trust me when I tell you that the combination of the weekly changes in training protocols and the switching up of exercises every 9 weeks is going to send your gains into the stratosphere if you put 100% effort into this program and follow the diet and supplementation recommendations in this text. You just need to decide how badly you want to be a BEAST!*CEO B Built International
*Head of Social Media/Online Marketing/PR @ All American Pharmaceutical
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*Creator of the P/RR/S, FDF/FS and O-BEY-6 Training Systems
*Trainer/Prep Coach to Athletes Globally
"Limits can be discussed, but in no way need be obeyed."
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11-20-2006, 09:02 PM #41
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Eric,
Is your book on sale anywhere? I'd like to buy it and maybe do a review for bodybuilding.com as I was just accepted as a writer for them.
-Dan"I just use my muscles as a conversation piece, like someone walking a cheetah down 42nd Street." - Arnold Schwarzenegger
Heretic....
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11-20-2006, 09:04 PM #42
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Originally Posted by deserusan*CEO B Built International
*Head of Social Media/Online Marketing/PR @ All American Pharmaceutical
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*Creator of the P/RR/S, FDF/FS and O-BEY-6 Training Systems
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"Limits can be discussed, but in no way need be obeyed."
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11-20-2006, 09:09 PM #43
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Originally Posted by sixthsense"I just use my muscles as a conversation piece, like someone walking a cheetah down 42nd Street." - Arnold Schwarzenegger
Heretic....
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11-20-2006, 09:12 PM #44
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Originally Posted by deserusan*CEO B Built International
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*Creator of the P/RR/S, FDF/FS and O-BEY-6 Training Systems
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"Limits can be discussed, but in no way need be obeyed."
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11-20-2006, 11:15 PM #45
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Thanks for the sample workouts Eric. I've recently been building a routine around your principles, and planning the shock week was giving me some challenge. Your clarification of the superset/dropset approach is enlightening -- I look forward to the pain!
Just a man trying to survive:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2290281
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11-21-2006, 08:36 AM #46
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Originally Posted by livinonlava
Keep me posted and let me know if you have any questions.*CEO B Built International
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11-21-2006, 08:58 AM #47
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Thanks for taking the time to post the whole routine. It really helps to see it laid out.
My 45lb transformation! (updated pics toward the end)
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1541021
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11-21-2006, 09:02 AM #48
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Originally Posted by Steve0178*CEO B Built International
*Head of Social Media/Online Marketing/PR @ All American Pharmaceutical
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*Creator of the P/RR/S, FDF/FS and O-BEY-6 Training Systems
*Trainer/Prep Coach to Athletes Globally
"Limits can be discussed, but in no way need be obeyed."
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12-13-2006, 08:30 AM #49
Talk about HEAVEN, Eric Broser personally posting an outline of his P/RR/S program...I read the write-up in IRONMAN and follow the work that Steve Hollman and Johnathan Lawson are doing based on framework of this program. They have done the advanced work using both Rest/Pause, Dante's DC method, as well as their own X-rep methods within the P/RR/S program too. What a great system you have put together. I'll be buying the book.
My Journal:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=664713
I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there is.
I don't ask for much on my daily goals.....just one more rep than last time.
When you stand firm in your beliefs...the people who don't will pass in and out of your life...the ones who stand with you..those are your friends.
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12-13-2006, 08:50 AM #50
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Ok here is my take on this program.
This program is better than 90% of the stuff out there.
The thing I like about the program is it does include both heavy and repetition methods in the same wk. This is key for development like I've wrote about in the past.
The thing I do not like about the program is the structure and programming it. Rather than having workouts or weeks with one training variable who not condense them all accordingly together? They work together and work well together.
The only other thing is the lingo used is a bit missleading for guys like me who have our nose up exercise science books all day long. So not to sound to frail but actually training for muscle types is somewhat missleading and missinformed.
But honestly a good program and will surely make people grow. I would just change some variables around with the programming and I feel it would be utilized a bit better.
KcFortified-iron.com/forum
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12-13-2006, 08:54 AM #51
What would you recommend changing? Personally I think the layout looks great and sounds awesome, I plan on trying this when my back gets better.
Just interested in what you think needs changed, always interesting in hearing about what the smart guys have to sayNew 5/3/1 Strength Journal:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=152156313&p=1031620863#post1031620863
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12-13-2006, 02:11 PM #52
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As with any program you once you get a feel for it you should definately tailor it to suit you best. For instance, I vary the rep tempos and rest between sets. I also utilize ALL the advanced techniques.
"I just use my muscles as a conversation piece, like someone walking a cheetah down 42nd Street." - Arnold Schwarzenegger
Heretic....
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12-13-2006, 02:31 PM #53
Des, ive learned a lot from reading your journal already, you use a lot of your own methods. Your shock leg day last time was nuts.
I know that eric the maker said the P/RR/S can be fit to suit anyones needs and can be adjusted based on someones preference/weakpoints. He even has an advanced technique where you do powerlifting type stuff on the power week. Im starting this when I move to bulking, so many different things you can do to it, it will keep lifting really fun this way.
Since im new to P/RR/S im just going to run it the way eric has layed it out so I get a feel for it as des said, thats the best way to do it. Then you can modify it anyway you like, I think thats the best think I like about this program and I havent even started. So much variety and your body doesnt get a chance to adapt to anything.
Another good thing is you dont need to do P/RR/S exactly like that, if you want more strength focus you can do P/P/RR/S or something along those lines, wow the possibilitiesLast edited by young_squatter; 12-13-2006 at 03:03 PM.
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12-13-2006, 03:11 PM #54
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Good stuff YS. I'm 100% natural and don't use PH's, AI's, etc and look at me. I don't mean to sound full of myself (I am though ) but P/RR/S has helped me take my physique to a knew level. Granted I am cycling calories and doing daily cadio while bulking, but it works and will bring anyone's physique.
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Heretic....
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12-13-2006, 03:31 PM #55
Huh, interesting... not really my thing (more of strength dude) but if I ever did some bodybuilding I would defiantly consider this.
Out of curiousity sake and not for me, but since a lot of people on this forum are new, raw, beginners, whatever you want to call it (even some posting in this thread thinking about doing it)... how would you tinker it for a "not so advanced" lifter.
I would hate to see a bunch of beginners/low intermediates try this and get burnt out and come back saying "omg this program doesnn't work"
BTW Deserusan... you are looking ****ing huge...Last edited by dbcb314; 12-13-2006 at 03:53 PM.
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12-13-2006, 03:51 PM #56
Hey man, I read a post by eric on another site that he wouldnt do shock week for a beginner. Instead he recommended something like this P/P/RR/P/P/RR and so on, and once they had time under there belt add in the shock week.
Agree des, your physique is outstanding, and actually one of the reasons I am going to give P/RR/S a go. If you support it I know it has to be good. Key is you have to know what your doing diet wise as well to get the best results. Awesome that you have a journal on here so people new to P/RR/S can get an idea of how you can tweak it.New 5/3/1 Strength Journal:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=152156313&p=1031620863#post1031620863
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12-13-2006, 07:09 PM #57
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If you guys have any questions let me know. I am happy to help when I can. Thanks for using my program and talking favorably about it.
There was a poster above that mentioned putting the various priniciples of PRRS into one workout. This is something I do with more advanced clients. It is called Hybrid PRRS, and a workout looks something like this:
Chest:
-Incline BB Press...3 x 4-6
-Incline Flye...1 x 13-15, 1 x 10-12, 1 x 7-9
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12-14-2006, 04:06 AM #58
Last edited by young_squatter; 12-15-2006 at 04:04 AM.
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12-14-2006, 06:00 AM #59
the exercises change weekly. i love this routine. keeps the workouts interesting.
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12-15-2006, 05:39 AM #60
How do you line up the bodyparts on this routine? Push/pull/legs or Upper/lower. Sorry if I missed it somewhere in the thread. Thanks
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