How to tackle my obliques????

[HCoMixedGuy]

Help me...i havent the slightest idea on how to hit them!

[ed073]

Help me...i havent the slightest idea on how to hit them!

go nuts!

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[hyp3r3xt3nsion]

go nuts!

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[C-Los]

If you are striving for a bodybuilder type physique with a V-Taper I would abstain from direct oblique work.

Just my .02 cents

[unity]

If you are striving for a bodybuilder type physique with a V-Taper I would abstain from direct oblique work.

Just my .02 cents

i dont understand why people are so scared to work those obliques. i mean, they arent going to get huge over night, none of my other muscles have. and of course, if you do get them too big, simply stop working them, and they will beging to shrink.

[bigpump23]

If you are striving for a bodybuilder type physique with a V-Taper I would abstain from direct oblique work.

Just my .02 cents

based on what reasoning? I mean your entitled your opinion but without hitting your obliques somewhat your not gonna have the overall development that is needed

[MrSinister]

yeah i hate that bodybuilders dont work obliques line too..
unless u think u r gonna take out competitions, work your obliques for crying out loud. Strong core is a stronger body.

Im a big fan of this type of exercise for them
http://www.exrx.net/AnimatedEx/Obliques/LVTwist.gif
I do it witrh a cable tho as i dont have a machine like that at my gym, they work awesome and ive definately put some mass on there since. They used to be fairly flat but after a couple of months of direct work they feel like little blocks of wood

[C-Los]

based on what reasoning? I mean your entitled your opinion but without hitting your obliques somewhat your not gonna have the overall development that is needed

I'm one of the lucky ones that is able to put on lean body mass without much trouble. That is why I personally do not do any direct oblique work at all. If I was a wrestler or an athlete that needs strong obliques than I would. But to me the smaller the waist the better.


Peace

[bigpump23]

I'm one of the lucky ones that is able to put on lean body mass without much trouble. That is why I personally do not do any direct oblique work at all. If I was a wrestler or an athlete that needs strong obliques than I would. But to me the smaller the waist the better.


Peace

alright thanks for clearing it up bro

[midian]

Russian twists and side crunches with your body of a bench (they got a name but i forgot)

[MattyG]

Bent press and windmills work very well for me.

[midian]

Try this, take a weight of the squat rack (one that you can box squat or you will have some trouble later on ) sit on a box, chair, decline bench, your trainings partner, ....... and just sit there for 30 seconds while keeping your whole waist thight. Great way to train squat stability and the whole core.

[maidenfan]

Suitcase lifts with an oly bar work great. Get used to the exercise then go for a walk with it. Hits the wrists good too.

[El Dudereno]

Deadlift = strong core (abs, obliques, erector spinae). Arnold did heavy deads and he had a fantastic V-taper.

[zackmurphy]

I'm one of the lucky ones that is able to put on lean body mass without much trouble. That is why I personally do not do any direct oblique work at all. If I was a wrestler or an athlete that needs strong obliques than I would. But to me the smaller the waist the better.

I'm not sure what this has to do with lean body mass. He wants to train his obliques. This has nothing to do with the V, or looking fatter.

And not to dogpile, but with all due respect, why would you apply your personal "luck" and physiology to anyone else and their training needs? The whole point is to train each body part well.

If you're born with enormous delts, and some guy asks what he should do for delts, you wouldn't say "don't train them at all" simply because YOU didn't have to.

[C-Los]

I'm not sure what this has to do with lean body mass. He wants to train his obliques. This has nothing to do with the V, or looking fatter.

When I bulk I have see good gains in lbm. I train everything 6-10 reps. Why on earth would I grab 100 lb dumbells 6-10 reps of side bends to purpousely make my obliques bigger. I'm talking about the way I train and what works for me. I'm a bodybuilder and I wanna look like one.

And not to dogpile, but with all due respect, why would you apply your personal "luck" and physiology to anyone else and their training needs? The whole point is to train each body part well.

If you're born with enormous delts, and some guy asks what he should do for delts, you wouldn't say "don't train them at all" simply because YOU didn't have to.

WTF are you talking about?
If I remember correctly this board is dedicated to Bodybuilding. I guess I made a mistake in assuming everyone here is aiming for a muscular, proportionate, and symetrical physique. Now I'm not saying to stop training a certain body part if its growing faster then the rest of your body. But you will want to focus on is bringing other parts up to par. Having said that I will never train obliques directly.

[Kane Fan]

i dont understand why people are so scared to work those obliques. i mean, they arent going to get huge over night, none of my other muscles have. and of course, if you do get them too big, simply stop working them, and they will beging to shrink.

the only way your obliques are going to get too big is if you are doing side crunches with a car or something

[zackmurphy]

If I remember correctly this board is dedicated to Bodybuilding. I guess I made a mistake in assuming everyone here is aiming for a muscular, proportionate, and symetrical physique.

If you are striving for a bodybuilder type physique with a V-Taper I would abstain from direct oblique work.

Lol. Just referring to your own posts, champ. Everyone here is "aiming for muscular, proportionate, and symetrical physiques", but you're abstaining completely from training one part and recommending others do the same simply because you gain LBM.... I'm still not sure what you're LBM has to do with training or not training obliques.

You're taking the personally - I'm just asking you to explain what one has to do with the other. Your LBM and whether some other guy should think about training his obliques? Not sure about that one.

[C-Los]

Lol. Just referring to your own posts, champ. Everyone here is "aiming for muscular, proportionate, and symetrical physiques", but you're abstaining completely from training one part and recommending others do the same simply because you gain LBM.... I'm still not sure what you're LBM has to do with training or not training obliques.

You're taking the personally - I'm just asking you to explain what one has to do with the other. Your LBM and whether some other guy should think about training his obliques? Not sure about that one.

Look, saying I gain lbm fairly easy means that I don't train obliques directly cause I don't want them to grow. I don't want to gain muscle on on my obliques cause my waist will appear larger. Thats what I mean.

This is what I've been doing and will continue doing. Waist size is mostly genetic but I will always want to keep it as small as possible.

My sister makes fun of me saying that I have a girlie waist......thing is I take that as a compliment.

[C-Los]

Remember that the smaller your waist size the bigger you will appear.

[El Dudereno]

Look, saying I gain lbm fairly easy means that I don't train obliques directly cause I don't want them to grow. I don't want to gain muscle on on my obliques cause my waist will appear larger. Thats what I mean.

This is what I've been doing and will continue doing. Waist size is mostly genetic but I will always want to keep it as small as possible.

My sister makes fun of me saying that I have a girlie waist......thing is I take that as a compliment.

Bud I think I already mentioned that having well-developed obliques does not necessarily mean losing out on the V-taper. Check out Arnold.

[C-Los]

Bud I think I already mentioned that having well-developed obliques does not necessarily mean losing out on the V-taper. Check out Arnold.

I agree. But, in my case all the indirect work my obliques get is enough. If someone thinks they have underdeveloped obliques than by all means go ahead and train them hard and heavy. In reality I think obliques are not a problem bp for the majority of us.

Peace

[El Dudereno]

I agree. But, in my case all the indirect work my obliques get is enough. If someone thinks they have underdeveloped obliques than by all means go ahead and train them hard and heavy. In reality I think obliques are not a problem bp for the majority of us.

Peace

In that case you and I are in total agreement. I think deadlift is enough.

[zackmurphy]

Bud I think I already mentioned that having well-developed obliques does not necessarily mean losing out on the V-taper. Check out Arnold.

Or Dexter, or Darrem, or any of the "leaner", non-short pros out there right now.

I agree. But, in my case all the indirect work my obliques get is enough. If someone thinks they have underdeveloped obliques than by all means go ahead and train them hard and heavy. In reality I think obliques are not a problem bp for the majority of us.

I get your point, though, C-Los, I just didn't want to over-apply the "I don't work mine, and I have a nice V" logic so as to deter people from working obliques. I know we all have different goals, but for the BB enthusiast who wants to work EVERY muscle equally, and go for complete proportion, I'd never deliberately ignore a part, especially one so important to my daily life.

Don't get me wrong, I know oblique strength will benefit me about 1 day in 1000 (each time I have to pass a piano to a guy standing to my side), but it's a muscle, I want to train it.

[zackmurphy]

I think deadlift is enough.

LOL. Didn't we just talk about this? I think we agreed to disagree, but can I lodge my vote again against deads as a sole oblique move? Then again, whatever blows your skirt up.

[El Dudereno]

LOL. Didn't we just talk about this? I think we agreed to disagree, but can I lodge my vote again against deads as a sole oblique move? Then again, whatever blows your skirt up.

LOL I believe you're right. I think we've also discussed that you're a...ecto? and I'm a meso...

Perhaps all threads like this should be answered with a question: "What body type are you??"!

[zackmurphy]

Perhaps all threads like this should be answered with a question: "What body type are you??"!

All threads, period, could begin with a series of questions - that one's at the top.

Me and my 30% meso ass will keep doing deads anyway, and some oblique work. What the hell, right?

[rick martel]

arnold still had a v taper even though his obliques were built BECAUSE his lats were superior, his back was big therefore his obliques could also be big while having the v taper.

if you were to train obliques you would have to build lats up big in order to have a v taper. but still takes away from the V, and if your going for complete aesthetics then why train obliques.

[Stagger]

Saxon side bends. Hold two dumbells overhead, and bend side to side. Use very light weight to start out, and a small ROM.

Also, one-handed lifts (like one-handed deadlifts) are great at working the entire core, as are standing military presses.

[bradp]

abs without obliques looks like ****