The Second Amendment

[trailwarrior]

The Second Amendment: A Biography
Author: Michael Waldman
Publisher: Simon & Schuster (May 20, 2014)

What the 'right to bear arms' really means
by Saul Cornell
"The notion that regulation is antithetical to the Second Amendment has no basis in history or law. As long as there have been guns in America, guns have been regulated. Even at the height of the Wild West in Dodge City, gun regulation was a fact of life."

[otisthebat]

yes, it makes perfect sense that the authors of the constitution who had just finished fighting a war against a tyrannical government, intended the second amendment to be regulated by the same tyrannical government that the second amendment exists to protect us from.

perfect sense.

perfect.

idiot.

[BEATINGU]

the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Can you read OP?

[Trijicon]

Shall not be infringed...

The debate was settled in 1791 - /thread

[JonathanRhimes]

O lawd OP

"The First amendment guarantees freedom of belief and political affiliation but McCarthy ruined a bunch of people's lives by putting them on trial as communists, proving that the First Amendment can be infringed upon and it's more of a guideline than an actual rule. Plus the Sedition Act which proves it even earlier."

Amidoinit rite?

[Weightaholic]

the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Can you read OP?

Don't be lazy, quote the whole thing.

[PrivilegeCheker]

What are you trying to say op? You want muh guns? Everyone knows guns will always be here in Merica. We can regulate them, try and keep them off the hands of crazies but they are here to stay.

[Bushmaster]

[seven11]

the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Can you read OP?

Don't be disrespectul to the founding fathers and post their entire text:


A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

[leafs43]

Socialist lib and commie sympathizer wanting to ban guns?

Color me shocked!

[Tekkendo]

Thanks OP for reminding us the Democrats liberal scum are anti gun rights.

[RingDips]

snivel snivel hurr durr

OP,

The use of "warrior" in your username suggests violence and is extremely intimidating to liberal betas everywhere. You should have included a trigger-waring with your post; since you didn't, I am reporting you to the Ministry of Love for aggressive behavior and thoughtcrimes.

Ban scary words!

[lasher]

Don't be disrespectul to the founding fathers and post their entire text:


A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

The Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that the right vests in individuals, not merely collective militias. Cry more lib.

[Tekkendo]

Don't be disrespectul to the founding fathers and post their entire text:


A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

So?

[Cablebob]

We have gun control.

what are you whining about?

It's not like a 10 year old can go buy a gun legally.

I can't carry my gun into my son's school to pick him up from sports.

I can't carry my gun into a post office.

It's nothing but controlled.

Now if your asking for a ban on guns. See Prohibition.

[Trijicon]

When people keep bringing up the whole 'militia' thing I wonder... Just who do you think makes up this militia?... Oh that's right, We The People do. That is why the RIGHT of the people to keep and bear arms, shall NOT be infringed.... So that in the time of need We The People could form up militias, with our own personal weapons, in proper working order (well regulated) in order to protect and preserve this Republic from an over reaching tyrannical centralized govt.

The 2nd Amendment was not about duck hunting... The primary reason for the 2nd Amendment was in order to protect and defend the Republic against tyranny. After all they just got done fighting a revolution for crying out loud and that revolution was not fought against ducks, it was fought against tyranny.

Oh and... The whole "well regulated" thingy... Let's take a look...

The following are taken from the Oxford English Dictionary, and bracket in time the writing of the 2nd Amendment:


1709: "If a liberal Education has formed in us well-regulated Appetites and worthy Inclinations."

1714: "The practice of all well-regulated courts of justice in the world."

1812: "The equation of time ... is the adjustment of the difference of time as shown by a well-regulated clock and a true sun dial."

1848: "A remissness for which I am sure every well-regulated person will blame the Mayor."

1862: "It appeared to her well-regulated mind, like a clandestine proceeding."

1894: "The newspaper, a never wanting adjunct to every well-regulated American embryo city."

The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd Amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.

[seven11]

The Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that the right vests in individuals, not merely collective militias. Cry more lib.

So?

It's the full text in the constitution. I just posted it and have not sad anything else. Why do you guys seem to have a problem with it?

[flairon]

When people keep bringing up the whole 'militia' thing I wonder... Just who do you think makes up this militia?... Oh that's right, We The People do. That is why the RIGHT of the people to keep and bear arms, shall NOT be infringed.... So that in the time of need We The People could form up militias, with our own personal weapons, in proper working order (well regulated) in order to protect and preserve this Republic from an over reaching tyrannical centralized govt.

The 2nd Amendment was not about duck hunting... The primary reason for the 2nd Amendment was in order to protect and defend the Republic against tyranny. After all they just got done fighting a revolution for crying out loud and that revolution was not fought against ducks, it was fought against tyranny.

Oh and... The whole "well regulated" thingy... Let's take a look...

The following are taken from the Oxford English Dictionary, and bracket in time the writing of the 2nd Amendment:


1709: "If a liberal Education has formed in us well-regulated Appetites and worthy Inclinations."

1714: "The practice of all well-regulated courts of justice in the world."

1812: "The equation of time ... is the adjustment of the difference of time as shown by a well-regulated clock and a true sun dial."

1848: "A remissness for which I am sure every well-regulated person will blame the Mayor."

1862: "It appeared to her well-regulated mind, like a clandestine proceeding."

1894: "The newspaper, a never wanting adjunct to every well-regulated American embryo city."

The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd Amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.

So you think 'regulated' means 'proper working order'

well tell me genius...how do you keep something in proper working order

[Trijicon]

It's the full text in the constitution. I just posted it and have not sad anything else. Why do you guys seem to have a problem with it?

Did you not read above your last post?... Or do you selectively see what you want to?

Also see: DC -v- Heller and McDonald -v- Chicago

And the definition of 'bear' is?

[seven11]

Did you not read above your last post?... Or do you selectively see what you want to?

Also see: DC -v- Heller and McDonald -v- Chicago

And the definition of 'bear' is?

All I did was post the text because that is what the 2nd amendment states. I don't see why you guys have such a huge problem with it. It's our constitution and that's what's written in it.

[Trijicon]

So you think 'regulated' means 'proper working order'

well tell me genius...how do you keep something in proper working order

By keeping it clean, well oiled and ready for deployment...

And your smug contemptuousness by the use of 'genius' really says a lot about you... Do you find it hard to debate without trying to slap others down in such a way with name calling if they don't share your same sentiment?

[Trijicon]

All I did was post the text because that is what the 2nd amendment states. I don't see why you guys have such a huge problem with it. It's our constitution and that's what's written in it.

I have no problem with it whatsoever because those with critical thinking, comprehension skills and can think for themselves will undoubtedly be able to read it correctly in the context it was meant. It really is quite pretty simple to understand...

[seven11]

I have no problem with it whatsoever because those with critical thinking, comprehension skills and can think for themselves will undoubtedly be able to read it correctly in the context it was meant. It really is quite pretty simple to understand...

You're right it is very simple to understand because our english language has stayed the same and there have never been any debates regarding the linguistic meaning.

[lasher]

You're right it is very simple to understand because our english language has stayed the same and there have never been any debates regarding the linguistic meaning.

The debate is over. You crying lib gun grabbers lost.

[seven11]

The debate is over. You crying lib gun grabbers lost.

you sound very emotionally charged. i feel sorry for your boyfriend.

[flairon]

By keeping it clean, well oiled and ready for deployment...

And your smug contemptuousness by the use of 'genius' really says a lot about you... Do you find it hard to debate without trying to slap others down in such a way with name calling if they don't share your same sentiment?

No..i find it hard to debate a 43 year old with the critical thinking skills of an infant.

genius.

And you figure that when it comes to a militia...that well regulated' means keeping it clean and oiled? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[lasher]

you sound very emotionally charged. i feel sorry for your boyfriend.

oh wow good one brah. Give your buddies in the playground a high-five

[flairon]

oh wow good one brah. Give your buddies in the playground a high-five

that is high brow humor in study hall

[Trijicon]

You're right it is very simple to understand because our english language has stayed the same and there have never been any debates regarding the linguistic meaning.

Correction, the only debate brought up about the meaning has been by those on the left trying to make it fit their ideology...

The founders wanted an armed populace...


You may argue that they had no clue how totally psychotic that some idiots out there would be or how morally deprived many in society would become... But the 2nd Amendment is as it is stated and it was meant to have an armed populace able to defend themselves and their republic.

[Tekkendo]

The debate is over. You crying lib gun grabbers lost.

Just wait till President Hillary installs Diane Frankenstein and a couple gun hating scum to the SCOTUS.

Ex-Supreme Court justice pushes gun grab, 2nd Amendment rewrite
http://washingtonexaminer.com/ex-sup...rticle/2547549


Besure to vote Democraps. It is the same as voting GOP.