These days it's common to hear of a pro tearing this muscle or that or some other athletic injury. One thing I've never heard about was Arnold--or Columbu, Zane, etc--injuring themselves. I know Arnold had a knee surgery after a posing platform collapsed, yet no other reports of injuries from those days.
Did pros of the 70s not get injured because they stuck with safe weights and controlled movements or were they just never reported or diagnosed?
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08-20-2011, 11:58 PM #1Porn Connoisseur
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Arnold Injuries?
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08-21-2011, 12:03 AM #2do i have brotential
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Arnold said once that he tore a pectoral muscle. I can't see any signs of damage on his chest so maybe it was just a few fibres.
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08-21-2011, 12:26 AM #3Registered User
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They weren't pushing the huge weights for reps that they are pushing nowdays. Bodybuilders back in the 70's were imo more fit and healthy than the bb'ers of today, With regular cardio and warm-ups even in the off season.
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08-21-2011, 12:58 AM #4Registered User
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Originally Posted by joshsaussey
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08-21-2011, 01:05 AM #5Austrian HIT
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actually arnold (and others) have claimed they rarely did cardio because their trains were so long (although im sure a large part of that was talking and mucking around in the gym, but i guess not eating for 4+hrs takes its toll)Originally Posted by joshsaussey
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He broke his leg during a posing routine once. Also was attacked by a bear but nipped that in the bud quick smart.
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08-21-2011, 01:45 AM #7Don't Call it a Comeback!
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No, no, I'm pretty sure that was Lou.Originally Posted by flangmasterj
I'm not sure about Columbo's bodybuilding injuries, but I was watching those ESPN Classic re-runs of World's Strongest Man. They played the first ever WSM and showed when Columbo tore his ACL trying to run 50 meters or so with a refrigerator on his back.
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08-21-2011, 01:50 AM #8Ascended Saiyan
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Gonna take a shot in the dark here, their form wasn't as good back in the day, so maybe less isolation=less stress on the muscle?, nowadays you have dudes with perfect form pushing a ton of weight. i donno sounds kinda dumb but kinda logical.
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I remember reading somewhere that Franco said Arnold would have his injuries but would continue training and wouldn't tell anyone.
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08-21-2011, 10:19 AM #10Registered User
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Didn't Zane hurt his shoulder in a bicycle (actually on a bike) accident? Platz tore a biceps, didn't he, requiring surgery and leaving a nasty high right bi?
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You've never seen Arnold, Franco, or Serge train once have you?Originally Posted by joshsaussey
Franco had a serious leg injury that took him away from competition after his first Olympia win.
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08-21-2011, 11:56 AM #12Registered User
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Loving the moronic posts trying to make out they didn't train with heavy weights.
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yep, he wrote about it when he told about his squatting routine.Originally Posted by flangmasterj
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Pros did do cardio back then. In his book Arnold talks about doing at least a half hour of cardio 4 days a week.
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main problem with many people i noticed is that they think cardio is for burning fat... which is NOT TRUE
CARDIO-VASCULAR training as name implies is training for CARDIO (HEART) and VASCULAR (BLOOD VESELS,veins,capilars etc)
cardio vascular training is probably most important thing you can do, because it helps you not only live healthier but also you can reach your goals faster because better blood flow = more nutrients delivered to all parts of your body (including muscle)Last edited by Delirium1337; 08-21-2011 at 02:22 PM.
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08-21-2011, 02:57 PM #17Registered User
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very wise comment indeed, appreciated.Originally Posted by Delirium1337
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08-21-2011, 03:43 PM #18do i have brotential
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Some of them did train with heavy weights, but Arnold was more of a "light weights and high rep ranges" guy. He was still pretty strong. You know the scene in Pumping Iron where he's taking turns squatting 3 plates with Ed Corney? They were doing 15 rep sets.Originally Posted by Dacu
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08-21-2011, 04:53 PM #19Porn Connoisseur
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If the Weider magazines are to be believed, Arnold did pyramid sets and usually only the last was his all-out max for about six reps on certain exercises. Maybe they weren't injured as often because back then pros didn't try to go all-out, balls-to-the-wall with forced and cheat reps, negatives, etc?Originally Posted by BartPimpson
"Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have."--Ronald Reagan
“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength.”--Arnold Schwarzenegger
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08-21-2011, 05:18 PM #20Registered User
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Holy crap there are some absolutely stupid posts in this thread.
Arnold and co trained with insane volume with decent weight.
Their form was fine. Just the fact that they trained decades ago doesn't mean their form was incorrect or they didn't have as good a grasp on biomechanics, rofl! (god that was stupid, some people, jesus)Novice Athletic Tall winner and Overall Athletic winner
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08-21-2011, 10:37 PM #21Registered User
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If you read the book Pumping Iron, Charles Gaines at one point says that Arnold's form was perfect always. He even says that this is the reason why Arnold was #1, because he never cheated a rep and his form was pure, and nobody came close to him in that department.
aw, here is the exact quote: "They do five sets of twelve reps, hurting - Arnold more than the other two, because he does the exercise with greater purity.
ONe reason why Schwarzenegger is the best bodybuilder alive is that he never cheats an exercise. he makes every movement full and clean without jerking or pausing and without borrowing from muscles other than the one he is working. Another reason is that he concentrates so well."
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08-21-2011, 10:50 PM #22Porn Connoisseur
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I keep forgetting this book; I need to get a copy. I got an original "Education of a Bodybuilder" and the George Butler portrait book about Arnold.Originally Posted by porcupinetree
"Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have."--Ronald Reagan
“Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength.”--Arnold Schwarzenegger
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08-22-2011, 04:46 AM #23Registered User
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What is the deal with people thinking Arnold and Franco didn't cheat, or train all-out? Of course they did. Watch some videos of each of them slapping around huge amounts of weight.
Arnold wrote about how he'd "cheat" only to make an exercise harder, or to squeeze the out the last few repetitions that couldn't be performed with strict form.
All of these "Weider" training principles were nothing more than catchy names attached to what bodybuilders were doing already.
I think it's true that volume was king in the '70s, though. Arnold wrote in Education how he was forced to devise a very high volume training regimen when he was in the Austrian Army after winning the Junior Europe and being ordered to train. Of course, Arnold's stories always have to be taken with a grain of salt.
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08-22-2011, 05:10 AM #24Lemme tell ya sumthin....
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I don't think they used tren in that era, that's prolly the biggest reason why.
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they had the best tren ever back yhen, the original french finaject. 76mg/mlOriginally Posted by palumboism
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08-22-2011, 10:11 AM #26Registered User
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Arnold injured his shoulder before the 1980 Mr. Olympia.
He got a cortisone shot to continure training for it. It messed up his water levels because a side-effect of the cortisone is water retention. He drank a lot of water before the show and became puffy. Franco made him pose for hours the day before the competition to help drain the water.
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what an amazing video. hahaOriginally Posted by Boba_Bulk
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yep, Arnold wrote that Franco would cheat almost at every repOriginally Posted by KeithTheSnake
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08-22-2011, 02:14 PM #29Registered User
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My guess is they picked up injuries just like anyone else from any era could, it jusn't wasn't as well published as it is now!
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The funniest injury I read about was when Franco injured his leg carry a fridge on his back in a contest.
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