I don't know if this is the right place to post, or if this even warrants a serious tag. If I break those rules, I apologize in advance, but this issue has been bugging me for years and I wanted to post about it here just to see what kind of responses I would get.
Anyway, I'm a 22 year old virgin who's never kissed a girl, never been on a date, almost no experience at all in any of these categories. I feel at this point, if I couldn't get any of this taken care of a few years ago, it's not going to happen now.
The reason for this is quite simple: I'm not out there. I just graduated college with a mathematics degree but I'm unemployed and have no luck in finding jobs. IN fact, the stress of not having any of the above experience inhibits my efforts through other aspects in life such as job hunting, the gym, and when I was in college, school work. On top of that, I don't even really have any friends either. I'm just sitting at home all day attempting to look for jobs but in reality, I'm just sitting down miserably stressing out about so much stuff I 'missed' or haven't done.
A lot of people say ,it's easy to get laid in college, but I screwed that one up pretty badly. I think it's an issue of shyness and social anxiety. No one really cared to help me with those mental issues. These problems became more persistent each year towards senior year where I absolutely hated going to any parties or events. So yeah, I ****ed up that part of my life even though I graduated with strong grades....In short, I'm not out there.
I've tried dating sites but the only people that come up are people 100+ miles away from me and many of them are fat.
So from all this, I'm not out there, but the stigma of being a virgin frustrates me more and more each day and I even feel aggressive inside sometimes. The best choice for me now may be to find an escort from a brothel in Nevada. In a brothel, they are probably more professional and consider safety extremely important, so my chance of getting an infection will be a lot less than that of a street hooker or some random bar girl.
A lot of people have said "you just have to wait for the right one. Well, I've waited for at least four years (I made a similar topic here when I was 18 except I DIDN"T bring up prostitution). I'm tired of people telling me that.
The point of doing this would be to remove that burden from me and it may help alleviate a ton of my other anxiety issues. As for the long run, however, I can't decide if it would be the best option for me.
Has anyone else been in a situation like mine? Did you consider a prostitute? What became of it?
There's my rant, again, not sure what kind of responses I'll get, but I'm at least glad I wrote a lot of this down.
Thanks
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09-14-2010, 08:48 AM #1
22 year old virgin: Should I get it over with at a brothel in Nevada? (serious)
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09-14-2010, 08:51 AM #2
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09-14-2010, 08:51 AM #3
losing your virginity to a whore? nah bro. chill out. make friends, even hang out with family members - this way you have a chance to meet people they know and expand your social circle.
worst thing you can do is stress yourself about sex - that kind of thinking makes it impossible ot get laid, sicne you cant really walk up to a random women and jsut begin banging her, unless shes a complete std ridden whore.
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09-14-2010, 08:54 AM #4
You can if you want 2, but its not going 2 change anything. If you just want 2 do it for yourself, then do it for yourself. If you want 2 experience sex do it imo, however nothing is going 2 change afterwards.
Get more confidence in yourself, approach girls, practice practice practice, eventually it will come. Even if it doesn't come naturally it can be achieved through hard work, just like BB'ing imo, just need 2 research and actually try.Bench(1RM): 275
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09-14-2010, 08:57 AM #5
work on yourself, get into some hobbies..you will get a girl. When you become happy with yourself things will fall into place. If you loose it to some escort, everything else will still be the same after and bet you become more depressed like others have said.
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09-14-2010, 08:57 AM #6
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Strauss wrote about someone using this to get over this hump in the game, pretty sure it worked for him and he went on to develop some solid game. Flat out, if you think this is something that is holding you back and you feel you need to do whatever it takes to get past it, then I think its a viable option. The only real question is whether you think you can live with this decision or not. TBH, "your first" isn't really all the important to you once you get down the line. I mean, I couldn't care less about my first girl now.
I feel you on the social awkwardness, the less time you spend around other people the less in tune you become with people. I cant really stand most people so I lived a very large and important chunk of my life away from others. Very bad move, I suggest working on getting past yours asap.4% shredded with striated!
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09-14-2010, 09:00 AM #7
No.
You got a degree, but don't even have a job yet, let alone searching for one. Instead you are feeling sorry for yourself. Let me tell you, if you lose it to some wh0re out there in Nevada you will regret it. Also, it does nothing for you. All you had to do was open up you're wallet, instead of working for the puss, whether it be in one night or over a few months.
I suggest getting out of you're head first and finding a job. Good things come to those who wait. Get you're money first, then I promise you that you're roster will start to fill up. Forget how old you, you will break you're neck looking back into the past. You have a degree in Math for christ sake. No girl is going to want some educated, unemployed, borderline depressed virgin, but some will want an educated, employed, and level headed one. You will never get a chic if you keep beating yourself up over it.
Get out, find a job, stay in the gym, and you will meet some friends at work and maybe the gym. A nice girl will cross you're path someday, you just better be ready for once.Just Bleed
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09-14-2010, 09:12 AM #8
You'll always look back and remember your first time. With a prostitute? That would be really weird in my book. You'll just remember how much it cost...
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09-14-2010, 09:18 AM #9
I did join a boxing gym in addition to my usual lifting. At least with another hobby, that makes me a bit more interesting. But in general, I'm still not really 'out' there. What would be some other suggestions for things I can do to help get me out there?
Also, should I quit choking the chicken? I only do so like 4 times a week but maybe that has an effect on things...
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09-14-2010, 09:18 AM #10
instead of hiring a prostitute, why not just lower your standards?
Also, the more time you spend hiding in your basement the harder its going to be to ever come out. Join a few sports teams or activity groups and get out there and start meeting people man. You are still young, you don't want to look back and wish you had done something earlier, the time is now!*Strong Everything 2018 Champion*
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09-14-2010, 09:21 AM #11
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lol no
1) Go out, get drunk, meet average girl who also happebs to be drunk.
2) Take her back to your place and tap that.
3) Never see her again. EVER.
4) Save yourself some money and dignity in the process.The GEEZAAAAAAAA
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09-14-2010, 09:32 AM #12
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09-14-2010, 09:45 AM #13
Do not do this, this will not solve anything.
Get out of your house and smile at girls and talk to them.
Go fer iti wil rep u if i get a chance
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09-14-2010, 09:56 AM #14
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Op, do you have any other sporting interests?
I found one of the best ways to create some friends (also of the female variety) is via a sporting group as there is usually a social aspect to it as well. In fact it doesn't even need to be sport - it could be anything!
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09-14-2010, 09:57 AM #15
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09-14-2010, 10:06 AM #16
Do it.
Guys, remember your first time? Remember how much it sucked? How ****ty you were at it? OP, you need to work on yourself and become a better man and learn how to pickup women and everything, of course, but losing your virginity with a hooker gives you the advantage of having a lot less performance anxiety and drama around the first time that you'll pickup a normal girl.
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09-14-2010, 10:29 AM #17
Your biggest problem is your self esteem. Its not your looks, intelligence, or loserness, or whatever. Its your confidence. Bishes don't want to get with someone who isn't confident. And you are clearly not very confident, probably because you think you are a loser, whatever.
Cousin of mine was dropped on his head when he was a kid, seriously has an 80 IQ or something, feel bad for the guy, I don't think he can read or anything, but he has an ok job unloading trains/hangs drywall for extra money when not working, a wife, and few kids, and is a decent human being and a productive member of society. If he can do it, hell he is doing better than most people, then anyone can.
Here is my thought. If you aren't going to go back to school and are just going to law around your parents house, then what the hell, do it. Even if you do have a plan, it still is probably better to just do it.
But not for the reasons everyone says. The reason to do it is because you will probably eventually find a girl. And when you bang her, she will own you, and treat you like ****, and you will stick with her because she was your first and you put some type of emotional attachment into the sex or some bull ****.
Sex is sex. Its great. But people make to big of a deal about it. If its wrecking your life like you say it is, you are seriously making way too big a deal out of it.
If you go and bang a whore, it will take some of that specialness out of it that you have built up in your head, and then you won't wreck your life when you finally do hook up with another chick.
Whether or not you bang the chick, do this with your life:
1. Go to grad school or back to school and pick up an education degree. What is there to do with a 4 year math degree? Maybe I'm just unaware, but I don't know what you would do with one. I knew a guy that had one, he ended up teaching at a private school, but couldn't teach in public ones because he didn't have an education degree.
2. Get a job.
3. Move out of parents house.
4. Buy a sick car.
If you have a car + job your chances of getting a girl will go up.
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09-14-2010, 11:20 AM #18
Math degrees are awesome! I'd look into government jobs, or teaching. The certification process varies in difficulty from state to state...some are hard, some are ridiculously easy. The thing about it, there's always a back door in the process, talk with the HR depts. of the school districts in your area and find out if they participate in whats called emergency or alternative certification programs. They'll give you more info from there.
Seriously, if I wasn't an idiot and so damn lazy with school even a year ago I would've switched my major to math. Now that I'm graduating soon it just sucks too much to make the switch.
Now...as for your woman problems. Losing your virginity to a prostitute would make for a cool story, but it doesn't fix the problem. And trust me, nothing magical happens when you lose it...the world keeps on spinning, no biggie. Maybe the problem is you're holding sex on some pedestal that it really shouldn't be on in the first place. Maybe you are viewing every single girl you talk to as a potential "target" which turns simple conversation into an interrogation.
Its kinda weird, but in order to get laid, getting laid can't be a priority...at least you gotta make it seem like its not a priority. In any case, I'm all for the whore...I'd even consider hitting up a place like that if I were in the area. But the problem isn't that you are a virgin.I have a small dick, is that ok
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09-14-2010, 11:20 AM #19
Fortunately, I do have a car. If I can get a job, I can move out of my parents' house, only thing is what I talked about in my thread hinders my efforts in finding a real job. Hopefully I can find a way to brush that all aside and put more focus into the job hunt.
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09-14-2010, 11:26 AM #20They say a wise man knows nothing, so I know a lot less
But I been where you at homie, put to the test
The answer lies deep within, so open your chest
And find God within yourself and he'll show you the rest
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09-14-2010, 11:34 AM #21
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you left college a virgin ? ouch... you must have literally not tried AT ALL to get laid.
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09-14-2010, 11:42 AM #22
Comments like this are probably why my self-esteem is as low as it is. I did go to parties at first, got out of my comfort zone, and joined a few things, but it was all for naught. As college progressed, my anxiety skyrocketed and I developed a very unhealthy abhorrence to going to any party or big social event. Maybe I didn't try hard enough, but I can't say I didn't try.
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09-14-2010, 11:51 AM #23
Disregard bitches, acquire currency somehow????
lol
Just go to parties again. I mean ****, it's ****ty to try and fail epic every single time - but at least you're out of the home and in a situation where you might get lucky lol sitting at home you aren't getting lucky with anything (aside from finding a brazzers password free, in which case PM me the password first). I've probably been to.... 100+ parties? still a virgin lol which is ****ty but i've had fun some of those nights anyways (+ way better than sitting around anyways).
All BS aside - yeah people are like that lol comments like those are killer.
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09-14-2010, 12:10 PM #24
Why did you have anxiety? Did you feel people were being judgmental of you or something?
Oh and you should never ever go clubbing unless you want your self esteem to be shattered. I went with some friends a while ago and the girls there are so shallow. You could look like Brad Pitt and they would still reject you and go back to dancing with their girlies the whole night.
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09-14-2010, 12:22 PM #25
I hope you don't mind me answering. But if I had a son (one in this position), I would most certainly send him to a 'legal' brothel in Nevada. In fact, I spend a considerable amount of time on other message boards discussing this very topic.
Sex and love can be combined (and are oftentimes packaged this way), but in reality, they are two distinct entities (especially in a mans mind). I also believe this would be beneficial, as you might then be 'less' prone to fall head over heels for the first woman you'd have sex with.
Me and my bloody interviews/research, but I have also interviewed a number of legal prostitutes in Nevada. Many young men are in your position, so it's not out of the norm. But the greatest numbers are indeed the husbands--the ones who's wives have settled too deeply into their marriages, become intolerable, or let themselves go in a number of other ways.“Any idiot can face a crisis, it is this day-to-day living that wears you out.” Anton Chekhov
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09-14-2010, 12:24 PM #26
Seriously man, I was a Virgin until 25....25!
Honestly I didn't start getting real bothered by it until I was 23 or 24. That was when I made some changes in my life in order to get myself into a better position with Women.
I guess I was still partying it up in college and it bothered me from time to time but I just figured in the grand scheme of things getting laid is not all that important. Much, much, much worse things happening to many many more people in the world.
Anyway, I had thoughts of going to a brothel just to get it over with, and I certainly thought there would be this huge relief after I had sex, but there wasn't. Oddly enough, I had finally landed a nice 7/8 had sex with her, and I remember the next day sitting on the couch and being like ****, I don't feel any different.
You need to bang a real life normal girl so that you can get attached way to quickly, do dumb ****, get dumped, deal with a broken heart and then move on to banging/dating new girls so you are prepared when a good one comes along.
Keep your head up, keep working out and pursuing other goals in life, disregard the haters and it'll happen for you. What others have said is right, you have to quit trying to get laid before you will get laid.
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09-14-2010, 12:24 PM #27
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what's your sex drive like OP? (no homo)
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09-14-2010, 12:31 PM #28
lol, no... don't worry about it man.
I wish I just didn't give a fukc in hindsight, instead of trying to lose it to the closest slut.
It's taboo in today's society for stupid reasons. Lose it when you're ready brah.
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09-14-2010, 12:34 PM #29
First things first: a job's a job. Flipping burgers at McD's is a job. Cleaning floors is a job. Get out and get a job, regardless of whether or not it's in mathematics. Keep looking and applying for something more along your education level, but if you spend the next three years driving a delivery truck you'll be more ahead than having spent the next three years wishing you had a "real" job in your parents' basement.
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09-14-2010, 01:07 PM #30
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People think that if they wait, pussy will come to them/ It doesnt happen like that. It sounds like you have some social problems you need to work on. Build some self confidence and put yourself out there
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