Genetics are overrated: discuss

[ARNOLDISNUMERO1]

I always hear people posting about genetics being such a crucial factor in bodybuilding, but i disagree with how much they play a part...

unless your this guy:



Seriously tho, most people have got the potential to get great physiques with solid and disciplined training, especially if they get on dat der celltech.

I think "genetics" gets thrown around as an excuse too often by the haters, i know some people are more inclined to making good gains, but no-one has a great physique without busting there ass and being disciplined..

[hugeORdie]

There might not be a such thing as "good genetics"
but there definitley is great genetics
and
bad genetisc.

[iamtough]

I always hear people posting about genetics being such a crucial factor in bodybuilding, but i disagree with how much they play a part...

unless your this guy:



Seriously tho, most people have got the potential to get great physiques with solid and disciplined training, especially if they get on dat der celltech.

I think "genetics" gets thrown around as an excuse too often by the haters, i know some people are more inclined to making good gains, but no-one has a great physique without busting there ass and being disciplined..

Age: 25

[ARNOLDISNUMERO1]

Age: 25

really dont understand your point....

[fly4navy117]

Well to an extent. If you just want to work out and get bigger, then yeah everyone can do that. Just a matter of serious training and diet. However, for the guys that want to compete seriously, everyone is that dedicated to the sport. Someone who is just naturally proportioned aesthetically just gives them an advantage that others don't have. Does it help? Yes, but it won't do you any good without the work behind it.

[steven1977]

Agree to some extent. Just wish I were born with massive calves. That's the most stubborn muscle to make grow.

[Kokanee]

genetics are extremely important in bbing and weightlifting.

[iamtough]

really dont understand your point....

You're 25 and don't know the difference between your/you're. But on a serious note, genetics are NOT overrated. I gain muscle very slowly, and I'm lucky if it's not fat stored in my midsection. I have small wrists, I have started benching 45 lbs; poor genetics, but I don't care because there is cell tech if I ever need it.

[BeeReM]

really dont understand your point....

you're*

[ARNOLDISNUMERO1]

Well to an extent. If you just want to work out and get bigger, then yeah everyone can do that. Just a matter of serious training and diet. However, for the guys that want to compete seriously, everyone is that dedicated to the sport. Someone who is just naturally proportioned aesthetically just gives them an advantage that others don't have. Does it help? Yes, but it won't do you any good without the work behind it.

yeah but i think that side of its a bit overrated and gets used by the people who dont put in 110% to their training to describe those who do.... were all basically the same.

[thundermass]

genetics do play a part. i realize no avi, hopefully after my next cut

i have pretty good biceps, but theyre weak as hell
strong triceps, but dont look that good

if you have good genetics cell tech wont be necessary

[Withoutreason]

thanks for proving genetics do matter and are still king

pls go

[Ted Nugent]

genetics are extremely important in bbing and weightlifting.

this

[Dragon1988]

I always hear people posting about genetics being such a crucial factor in bodybuilding, but i disagree with how much they play a part...

unless your this guy:



Seriously tho, most people have got the potential to get great physiques with solid and disciplined training, especially if they get on dat der celltech.

I think "genetics" gets thrown around as an excuse too often by the haters, i know some people are more inclined to making good gains, but no-one has a great physique without busting there ass and being disciplined..

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[titomuheedo]

Nvm Im mistaken.

[ARNOLDISNUMERO1]

You're 25 and don't know the difference between your/you're. But on a serious note, genetics are NOT overrated. I gain muscle very slowly, and I'm lucky if it's not fat stored in my midsection. I have small wrists, I have started benching 45 lbs; poor genetics, but I don't care because there is cell tech if I ever need it.

oh okay i get it the punctuation police..

but yeah, it might take you slightly longer but you've got the potential to make a great physique for yourself if you put in the years of hard work.

[DJSTARER]

OP:

what do you believe makes great athletes then?



Genetics are everything if you train and eat correctly.

[Spartan87]

except when i work my ass off and diet and body parts are lagging and other cats just seem to grow without any real work... drives me nuts, my pops is tall and skinny, my uncle (on mom's side) is tall and skinny, do you think geneticly i can keep up with a tall stocky guy? no.... i may be as strong or stronger but i dont look like it, genetics plays a roll, but weather or not you let it hinder you, or use it as a crutch to excuse **** results makes you a better bber, genetics have the ability to seperate a fad lifter from a true gym rat
In My Humble Opinion

[ARNOLDISNUMERO1]

thanks for proving genetics do matter and are still king

pls go

thanks for adding nothing constructive and trolling every thread

pls go

[Sugooy]

What is your biggest concern about a dramatic increase in our understanding of genetics?

The greatest danger is a mistaken sense of genetic determinism — that people will think that because genes play a role in something, they determine everything. We see, again and again, people saying, “It’s all genetic. I can’t do anything about it.” That’s nonsense. To say that something has a genetic component does not mean it’s unchangeable. Environmental factors play a huge role. Some people are more susceptible to certain things, and understanding which people are more susceptible will point to the environmental influence.

-Eric Lander (named one of Time magazine's 100 most influential people of our time (2004) for his work on the Human Genome Project)

[jon555]

Every body with proper training and nutrition and diet can put on muscle mass and lose fat.

The amount of muscle you can naturally carry, the rate at which you ultimately put on muscle, and the location/symmetry of your muscle bellies is genetic.

People with bad genetics tend to overemphasize their bad genetics to cover up their lack of consistent effort and dedication. People with good genetics tend to under emphasize the importance of genetics to not overshadow their accomplishments and efforts.

In summary, you want to take responsibility for the successes and defer the failures to things outside of your control.

In any case, everybody should just shut up and lift.

[ARNOLDISNUMERO1]

OP:

what do you believe makes great athletes then?



Genetics are everything if you train and eat correctly.

like i said SOME people are more inclined, but id say 99% of the population has the same basic capacity, may take some longer than others, and some will have stronger points than others.... for example, i never work my traps, there naturally just big, that is genetic, but my calves used to be very skinny, i worked on them over a year prioritizing, and now there the same as anybody else, i dont just say "oh well s**t genetics".

[ARNOLDISNUMERO1]

-Eric Lander (named one of Time magazine's 100 most influential people of our time (2004) for his work on the Human Genome Project)

this. explains what i was trying to say 100x better than i did

[GTR-]

your genes are 99% similar to mine. but it's that 1% that means everything.





god is trolling us

[SydCBDNSW]

genetics meaning height yes.....


brb short as fuk
brb get muscle people say youre compensating
brb looking short
brb stocky short build, nobodys mirin manlet muscle guy

[bigbadboi69]

why does everyone say genetics are overrated? every muscle on your body is determined by genetics, shape size etc. thats why zyzz is so popular, his muscle shape is pretty much perfect especially his chest (no nuthug)

brb wide waist

brb gap between chest

brb misaligned abs

[R2 Seafood]

-Eric Lander (named one of Time magazine's 100 most influential people of our time (2004) for his work on the Human Genome Project)

This. There's been a lot of research done on the subject, and it's been proven time and time that "talent" or "genetics" can be overcome by hard work. LOl @ everyone here with their ****ing excuses.

[ARNOLDISNUMERO1]

This. There's been a lot of research done on the subject, and it's been proven time and time that "talent" or "genetics" can be overcome by hard work. LOl @ everyone here with their ****ing excuses.

definitely brah, agree totally, i think genetics is too easily thrown round as an excuse

[captainhorseboy]

genetics are the difference between being good and being great

art atwood worked his ass off to look like a misshapen lump
flex wheeler half-assed himself into legendary status

muscle insertions, joint size, bone density, ribcage width. all things you cannot change. you can of course still work hard but lettuce be reality, genetics are huge. even how someone responds to AAS is "genetics"

[b0ngman]

genetics are def not overrated dumbass

there are some guys in the NFL that dont even have to work that hard