how to republicans respond to the accusation of voter suppression?

[RamataKahn]

As with any accusation without evidence, we don't.

[Cadet4life]

i don't have a subscription and i could post and read it; additionally you can read things from both sides and come to a conclusion based on reason and logic.

i mixed it up with a article from the washington post, i will read it now. don't appreciate the condescending tone

this is what i took from it:

daley...

-suggested mail in voting to stay safe from the rona
-republicans gerrymandered the fuk out of some of the states
-republicans appointed judges in power who backs up rep. voting systems
-democratic leadership is not doing well
-hits on new voter id's to suppress votes. uses the north carolina example of how kids with no driver's license, aren't allowed to vote
-uses alabama's DMV situation to prove republicans are making it difficult for people to get driver's licenses
-also uses north dakota as an example. republicans require voters to have a street address when many of the native americans do not have one due to tribal land
-gun license vs student id
-says one needs to jumps through hoobs to get to the ballot box in oregon than compared to NC

nothing new tbh

[leafs43]

Ahhh yes, always voter suppression in those GOP havens of NYC, LA and Chicago....

[BigElephant]

I don't see what the problem is with requiring an ID. Seems like a good way to keep non citizens from voting illegally.

[wesleysh21]

Democrats suppress votes by picking really, really chitty candidates to run

And just LOL at the veiled racism of low expectations. I've heard white people say that you can't use voter ID because 25% of black people can't afford an ID. Do you realize how racist that sounds? Holy chit boyo, 1 out of every frickin 4 of us? And what are they doing to help these people get IDs? Nada.

[soaponarope1]

Your words, Cletus.

Well what is the reason then? You need one to rent an apartment, drive a car, buy a can of spray paint, go to a bar, etc...

State IDs are free in some cases.

[Cadet4life]

Democrats suppress votes by picking really, really chitty candidates to run

And just LOL at the veiled racism of low expectations. I've heard white people say that you can't use voter ID because 25% of black people can't afford an ID. Do you realize how racist that sounds? Holy chit boyo, 1 out of every frickin 4 of us? And what are they doing to help these people get IDs? Nada.

watch the video in first page. college students thought it was racist to require voter id's because black people don't know where the dmv is to get a license...

I don't see what the problem is with requiring an ID. Seems like a good way to keep non citizens from voting illegally.

democrats want everyone to be able to vote, they don't care if you're illegal or not

[Jrd86]

we're actually a democratic republic

are you saying we're not a democracy?

lmao

"True democracy"

"Democratic republic"

Pick one.

that sounds like the kinda claim that should be supported by some sort of link or evidence

because, ya know, you might just be making it up

I'd be interested in seeing the evidence to support that claim. I'm not saying I don't believe you, simply am unaware of the evidence if it does exist.

You dont think democrat controlled state legislatures dont position polling places in heavy (D) districts? You dont think califorania doesnt pass laws that make it easier (not harder) for illegal aliens to vote in elections? How are the voter rolls in California? And finally, ballot harvesting. Ballot harvesting is illegal in pretty much every state other than california. And that favors democrats very heavily. Its how they won conservative orange county. 7 republican incumbants had won their seat on election night 2018, only to lose it a week later after 250k late ballots (that mysteriously all went for democrats) flooded in.

[AriGhold]

Well what is the reason then? You need one to rent an apartment, drive a car, buy a can of spray paint, go to a bar, etc...

State IDs are free in some cases.

In some cases, but I’d say the majority cost something. It may sound like peanuts to some people, but to others even $10 or $15 can be tough to part with. In my state a state ID can cost $22-$37.

The dmv can be a pain to get to, especially by public transportation, the hours of operation and lines can make it difficult to those who don’t have paid time off, flexible schedules, or work multiple jobs, and some of the requirements to prove your address can be difficult for the elderly or those in apartments to come by. There is a reason why the DMV has the reputation it does.

These issues won’t prevent most people from getting an ID, but they are enough of a nuisance and have a greater impact on the poor that requiring an ID could be considered voter suppression.

Other countries, like England, don’t require IDs and give their citizens the ability to vote by mail and by proxy. Is there widespread fear of voter fraud? Just curious.

[wesleysh21]

In some cases, but I’d say the majority cost something. It may sound like peanuts to some people, but to others even $10 or $15 can be tough to part with. In my state a state ID can cost $22-$37.

The dmv can be a pain to get to, especially by public transportation, the hours of operation and lines can make it difficult to those who don’t have paid time off, flexible schedules, or work multiple jobs, and some of the requirements to prove your address can be difficult for the elderly or those in apartments to come by. There is a reason why the DMV has the reputation it does.

These issues won’t prevent most people from getting an ID, but they are enough of a nuisance and have a greater impact on the poor that requiring an ID could be considered voter suppression.

Other countries, like England, don’t require IDs and give their citizens the ability to vote by mail and by proxy. Is there widespread fear of voter fraud? Just curious.

So what are the Democrats doing to help these people get IDs?

[AriGhold]

So what are the Democrats doing to help these people get IDs?

I don’t know?

We are far from the only country that doesn’t require IDs for elections. If republicans are adamant why don’t they try to solve the problem?

I’m actually not opposed to voter ID, or requirement to have an ID in general. I just believe for that to be a requirement they should be much easier to come by.

The DMV seems redundant. We already have the process for passports begin at the post office, why not increase funding to the post office and have them complete all ID related requests? Make it a little bit harder to establish a driving school and have them handle the testing component on the private side.

[dannyg1217]

my response:
Liberals think minorities are too stupid to get a state issued ID.


Truth: they all already have an ID

[RamataKahn]

I just believe for that to be a requirement they should be much easier to come by.

It's not hard at all to get an ID.

[AriGhold]

It's not hard at all to get an ID.

Not an argument

[dannyg1217]

I don’t know?

We are far from the only country that doesn’t require IDs for elections. If republicans are adamant why don’t they try to solve the problem?

I’m actually not opposed to voter ID, or requirement to have an ID in general. I just believe for that to be a requirement they should be much easier to come by.

The DMV seems redundant. We already have the process for passports begin at the post office, why not increase funding to the post office and have them complete all ID related requests? Make it a little bit harder to establish a driving school and have them handle the testing component on the private side.

do these voters drive, deal with checks, get ID'd for tobacco or alcohol? If you want to live in society then you should have an ID

[sandaltan]

So what are the Democrats doing to help these people get IDs?

fighting the retarded laws requiring them to go stand in the line at the DMW and spend hours and hours running around trying to get whatever they need so they can vote?

the real question is what are the republicans doing to help these people VOTE?

answer: nothing

actually, the answer is less than nothing - theyre actively hindering them from voting

[sandaltan]

do these voters drive, deal with checks, get ID'd for tobacco or alcohol? If you want to live in society then you should have an ID

so in order to vote you have to drive, deal with checks, or buy tobacco or alcohol?

lmfao

this sounds like a tradie explaining how he lives his life

[AriGhold]

so in order to vote you have to drive, deal with checks, or buy tobacco or alcohol?

lmfao

this sounds like a tradie explaining how he lives his life

He apparently only read about half my post, too.

[sandaltan]

It's not hard at all to get an ID.

hey spending 8-40 hours indoors at the DMW during a pandemic with a translator may not sound "hard at all" to you, but then again youre legally retarded

[sandaltan]

I’m actually not opposed to voter ID, or requirement to have an ID in general. I just believe for that to be a requirement they should be much easier to come by.

this. the problem is republicans arent actually interested in helping people vote. they want to hinder them and make it harder for them to vote. i have no problem with voter ID requirements so long as theyre simple and easy to obtain

having to spend days at the DMV in order to vote because you lost your ID is insane and a non-starter

you want voter ID? fine - whats your solution?

[wesleysh21]

fighting the retarded laws requiring them to go stand in the line at the DMW and spend hours and hours running around trying to get whatever they need so they can vote?

the real question is what are the republicans doing to help these people VOTE?

answer: nothing

actually, the answer is less than nothing - theyre actively hindering them from voting

Not an answer. If so many poor, stupid black people can't figure out how to get an ID or be able to afford one...what are the black saviors doing to help the situation and get them ID?

[N0rds]

Not an answer. If so many poor, stupid black people can't figure out how to get an ID or be able to afford one...what are the black saviors doing to help the situation and get them ID?

you 140,000 now thanks to popping my rep cherry

[RamataKahn]

Not an argument

You're right, because it's not hard at all.

[RamataKahn]

hey spending 8-40 hours indoors at the DMW during a pandemic with a translator may not sound "hard at all" to you, but then again youre legally retarded

No, it's literally not any harder to stand in line during a pandemic than any other time, what are talking about with a translator??? Are you saying blacks don't know English?

[AriGhold]

this. the problem is republicans arent actually interested in helping people vote. they want to hinder them and make it harder for them to vote. i have no problem with voter ID requirements so long as theyre simple and easy to obtain

having to spend days at the DMV in order to vote because you lost your ID is insane and a non-starter

you want voter ID? fine - whats your solution?

When we moved to Minnesota it took us several months to get all of our IDs/tags straightened out. One DMV was for the ID and driving test we had to take from being from out of state. They only had about 5 hours each week where the test was offered. I had to go back twice because I couldn’t wait any longer the first time. They punched holes in my ID and I had to go around with a piece of paper for 2 months before my ID came in the mail. Then I had to go through the process all over again 2 years later to get the realID to fly with. A separate dmv office on the other side of town took care of the new plates/tags. It’s a pain in the ass and should be simplified if we are going to change anything with the requirements.

[FatBallz]

I honestly want to see a count of how many people over 18 don't have an ID. You literally can't function in society as an adult without one. We can make concessions to help the handful of people who don't have one for whatever reason, but the Democrats don't want a solution to that problem...

[MirinCanadian99]

If its too hard for you to get a state issued ID, you're probably too dumb to take part in the election process. Everyone's got a passport they can very easily bring with them. No ID, no vote that simple. And if those minorities voted majority republican, trust me the DNC would be in support of more ID's. Im willing to bet that in 30-40 years the DNC will be in support of more ID's, since there is a cultural swing in the minority community towards conservative groups.

Also lol at lefties in here saying it takes hours for people to wait at the DMV to get a license when they are the ones advocating for government control. The irony they spout is beyond them.

[AriGhold]

If its too hard for you to get a state issued ID, you're probably too dumb to take part in the election process. Everyone's got a passport they can very easily bring with them. No ID, no vote that simple. And if those minorities voted majority republican, trust me the DNC would be in support of more ID's. Im willing to bet that in 30-40 years the DNC will be in support of more ID's, since there is a cultural swing in the minority community towards conservative groups.

Also lol at lefties in here saying it takes hours for people to wait at the DMV to get a license when they are the ones advocating for government control. The irony they spout is beyond them.

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[RamataKahn]

they want to hinder them and make it harder for them to vote.

No they don't and there is no evidence proving they do.

i have no problem with voter ID requirements so long as theyre simple and easy to obtain

having to spend days at the DMV in order to vote because you lost your ID is insane and a non-starter

They already are easy to obtain and most everyone has them.

[MirinCanadian99]

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Lol I'm sorry you gotta keep advocating for more government and then when said government is inefficient you cry gerrymandering or voting fraud.

Case in point you get what you vote for. Streamline the process, give private companies the right to issue driving licenses in accordance to government regulations and trust me more people would have ID's come election day instead of lumping more government into the equation. But you won't do that since that will fix the issue and we can't have that can we? The DNC knows what best brother.