Why you may not need Incline Bench

[AH7]

TY, got you on recharge


High

Thanks, so does this mean I should take incline out of my routine? im doing a 3on1off routine chest/arms, legs, back/shoulders. Chest day begins with flat BB bench, then incline DB bench. Should I be removing the incline and replacing it with maybe decline or flat DB bench?

[KS98]

Spidey da gawd

[crazdave]

Aye OP I hope you can reply to me tomorrow. I seem to be blind about this and cannot tell the difference.

What about this picture or my avi:

Or would you need one of me flexing my chest more directly?

[GrindIT]

**** I'm definitely red. Does that mean that OHP would be more optimal for upper chest?

[SebastianMorar]

Would you say it's better to have high or low insertions?

[Ali136]

I recently started doing incline DB presses, are they optimal for me as oppose to OHP's? Looks like low insertions but can you confirm?

[Ali136]

I recently started doing incline DB presses, are they optimal for me as oppose to OHP's? Looks like low insertions but can you confirm?

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[littlejohnson94]

Can you tell me what i am through my avi or bodyspace pics?

[Huskarl]

Incline will work for you

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Anything will ****ing work for him

[PatchRobinson]

I include both incline db press (slight incline) and db shoulder press on my push days, Ive been making great gains with both added and Im not sure if Im high or low insert.

bench
db press (alternating arms)
incline db press or incline flies (slight incline)
lateral raises
tricep pushdowns
dips or overhead extension

[Broscientist88]

I include both incline db press (slight incline) and db shoulder press on my push days, Ive been making great gains with both added and Im not sure if Im high or low insert.

bench
db press (alternating arms)
incline db press or incline flies (slight incline)
lateral raises
tricep pushdowns
dips or overhead extension

Exactly what i do fellow tim

[Meadey]

For anyone wondering about their chest insertions.
Find a place with a mirror and extremely good lighting. Do a crab most muscular and flex the chest and you should be able to see where your chest inserts. I can see it at 18% bf so unless you're very fat you should be able to

[PatchRobinson]

Exactly what i do fellow tim

does tim stand for Teen Irish Machine or am I wrong

[Broscientist88]

does tim stand for Teen Irish Machine or am I wrong

No but i like that ahaha

[PatchRobinson]

No but i like that ahaha

Thank you xD haha whats tim mean ? xD

[Broscientist88]

Thank you xD haha whats tim mean ? xD

Just a name the given like paddys or whatever .. i think it was the brits gave it too us? haha.

[Broscientist88]

Wearing a rib brace atm so my chest is compressed and red as fuark but see if you can tell me which i am, i think i might be low but hard to tell from these pics. If not il upload pics before the brace.

[thamanz]

I don't even flat bench anymore. Incline all the way

[Tb0282]

Why do you feel it's superior in sense of flat? My friend does them because of tight rotator cuffs

DB's allow for greater ROM. I would still choose barbells over dbs simply because its easier to progress.

Can you tell from my avi, TB?

Not really, although it looks high

Thanks, so does this mean I should take incline out of my routine? im doing a 3on1off routine chest/arms, legs, back/shoulders. Chest day begins with flat BB bench, then incline DB bench. Should I be removing the incline and replacing it with maybe decline or flat DB bench?

Yeah, remove incline. Decline would be a great replacement.

Aye OP I hope you can reply to me tomorrow. I seem to be blind about this and cannot tell the difference.

What about this picture or my avi: [img]http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2013/07/21/47803961/profilepic/wnQvncxgWMVoWgFlFHxBLbaQtmKXxjgRXpfQ.jpg[img]

Or would you need one of me flexing my chest more directly?

High insertion

**** I'm definitely red. Does that mean that OHP would be more optimal for upper chest?

Yes. OHP will be more optimal for your entire shoulder girdle as its designed to grow in that plane of motion

Would you say it's better to have high or low insertions?

Low are better. With high insertions you'll never be able to really build an impressive upper chest, at least without the aid of gear.

I recently started doing incline DB presses, are they optimal for me as oppose to OHP's? Looks like low insertions but can you confirm?
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/g0txTqk.jpg[IMG]

You have insertions like Columbu where you have 3 distinct visible seperations (this is where people got the idea of a upper, lower, middle chest) Incline should be good for you

[Tb0282]

Can you tell me what i am through my avi or bodyspace pics?

High

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Anything will ****ing work for him

Ok.

I include both incline db press (slight incline) and db shoulder press on my push days, Ive been making great gains with both added and Im not sure if Im high or low insert.

bench
db press (alternating arms)
incline db press or incline flies (slight incline)
lateral raises
tricep pushdowns
dips or overhead extension

Checked your bodyspace. Defnitely a high insertion.

Wearing a rib brace atm so my chest is compressed and red as fuark but see if you can tell me which i am, i think i might be low but hard to tell from these pics. If not il upload pics before the brace.

Looks like a high insertion. Although hard to tell with that pic as you said

[SebastianMorar]

Can you see from my AVI if I have high or low?

[Tb0282]

Can you see from my AVI if I have high or low?
[img]http://gyazo.com/738f8e5de593dd5d4225e6e960b566fe.png[img]

Hard to tell. Looks to be high. Do you have any pics with better lighting. This is one instance where you should use lighting to help you, so you can see you're striations

EDIT: Also got you on recharge.

[xNerve]

Hey, idk if lighting is too chitty or whatever but can you tell? If not ill try again to get a better pic

[Tb0282]

Hey, idk if lighting is too chitty or whatever but can you tell? If not ill try again to get a better pic

High.

[letsdothisbro]

When you have a high clavicular insertion (red highlight) This generally means you will be better 'suited' to being a standing presser because you tend to recruit shoulders and upper chest best when doing military press.

You would probably do better if you just dropped the idea of bench being your main mass builder. You would do better from an aesthetic perspective if you focused on an overhead pressing movement instead as your shoulder girdle is designed to grow better in that plane of motion. You'll see a lot more growth in upper chest + traps + shoulders that way.

I just read through the thread again now that I'm well rested to get a better idea. I have a high clavicular insertion.

The first thing I bolded, does it have to be necessarily standing? Seated OHP/Military won't work as well?

And the second thing, we're talking only incline here right?


And so since I have high insertions, I should completely disregard incline, amirite?

[Tb0282]

Seated works fine, I have to do seated since ceiling is too low to do standing.

What do you mean by only talking incline?

Yes, you should scrap the idea of incline with high insertions

[letsdothisbro]

Seated works fine, I have to do seated since ceiling is too low to do standing.

What do you mean by only talking incline?

Yes, you should scrap the idea of incline with high insertions

When you say, "you would probably do better if you just dropped the idea of bench being your main mass builder", are you talking only bout incline, in regards to upper chest, or are you talking generally?

[Tb0282]

Generally.

Having OHP as the main movement as opposed to bench would be best with a high clavicular insertion

[letsdothisbro]

Generally.

Having OHP as the main movement as opposed to bench would be best with a high clavicular insertion

well... it'll probably take me a while to get used to the idea.

[crazdave]

High insertion

Ah well OHP here I come. Cheers, OP. Thanks for making this thread, very informative really. It seems highs are more common?