New 2007 pros need not apply.
Who made the most improvements in 2007?
Kai Greene
Johnnie Jackson
Silvio Samuel
Dennis Wolf
Hidetada Yamagishi
Phil Heath
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12-09-2007, 09:14 PM #1Registered User
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Who is the most improved IFBB Pro in 2007?
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12-09-2007, 09:20 PM #2Registered User
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I'm not on the wolf bandwagon but if you look at his olympia 06 pics then 07 theres a huge improvement.
Bodybuilding is all about image not numbers, when you're up on stage your lifting stats and bodyfat % means nothing to the judges.
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12-09-2007, 09:29 PM #3pron posts mod
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Wolf by far. Not because I am a fan, but it is obvious.
Who had the worst improvements. Probobaly the top 2 guys from 2006. Ron with his injuries looked worse and the current Mr O. Jay looked worse than last year but managed to still keep the title.
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12-09-2007, 09:57 PM #4I Am Teh Lolrus
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I'd say Wolf or Kai Greene. I'd have to go with Greene though cus last year Wolf finished in the posedown of a show but last year Greene placed REALLY low at the Colorado Pro...then won it this year. Wolf's main improvement was proportions and size. Greene's improvement was almost all on conditioning but it made a huge difference.
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12-09-2007, 10:01 PM #5Registered User
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Big bad Wolf forsure.....
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12-09-2007, 10:10 PM #6Ghost Negger
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12-09-2007, 10:42 PM #7Registered User
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lol, yeah I'm going to have to agree with DD's ridiculously over-sized pic there. Wolf has come up leaps and bounds.
Can't WAIT till Heath smokes him when they compete against each other.Novice Athletic Tall winner and Overall Athletic winner
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12-09-2007, 10:44 PM #8Ghost Negger
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Originally Posted by dpugh
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12-09-2007, 10:45 PM #9Registered User
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YUSSS!!!Originally Posted by DiamondDelts
Have I finally exhausted your "Wolf Defense Muscles"?Novice Athletic Tall winner and Overall Athletic winner
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12-09-2007, 10:48 PM #10Ghost Negger
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NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Originally Posted by dpugh
I just love your logic though big man.
The no. 5 man at the olympia who blew everyone off stage and was the crowd favorite needs to watch out for a guy who felt he was not big enough to even step foot on the biggest stage of them all. This one should be a killer!
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12-09-2007, 10:54 PM #11Registered User
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I gotta hope man! Better Heath has done that than jump on there prematurely.Originally Posted by DiamondDelts
NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just love your logic though big man. The no. 5 man at the olympia who blew everyone off stage and was the crowd favorite needs to watch out for a guy who felt he was not big enough to even step foot on the biggest stage of them all. This one should be a killer!
(like the way I jacked this thread?)
But in all seriousness, Wolf came out and surprised the **** outta me this past O. Just imagine when Heath comes out when it's his turn... AMAZING.Novice Athletic Tall winner and Overall Athletic winner
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12-09-2007, 11:00 PM #12Ghost Negger
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I love your posts big man. Ha,ha. Heath is the man I'm not denying that. But my loyalty ALWAYS LIES WITH THE WIDEBODIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Originally Posted by dpugh
So we will have to wait and see when our boyz compete onstage.
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Fair enough man, fair enough. Still gonna defend Heath to the bitter end though broOriginally Posted by DiamondDelts
I love your posts big man. Ha,ha. Heath is the man I'm not denying that. But my loyalty ALWAYS LIES WITH THE WIDEBODIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So we will have to wait and see when our boyz compete onstage.
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12-10-2007, 12:16 AM #14I Am Teh Lolrus
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Olympia posedown comprised of(in no particular order) Heath, Vic, Wolf, Dex, Melvin, and someone of similar physique = bodybuilding wins
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12-10-2007, 03:28 AM #15Registered User
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wolf yeah. from last in 2006 olympia - then in 2007 should have been top 3
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12-10-2007, 05:07 AM #16Registered User
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Wolf is the popular pic but in my opinion Kai Green made the most improvements. His conditioning was the best on the pro circuit.
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12-10-2007, 05:13 AM #17Registered User
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theres a limit to how much u can count conditioning as improvement - coz they can come off in the next show u never know. a real improvement is permanent. like proportion, well-distributed mass etc. thats there even if they come with off conditioning at a particular show. so....wolf>greene
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12-10-2007, 05:21 AM #18IQ: 69
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Kai made far more dramatic improvements than merely conditioning.Originally Posted by gomez26
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Oh my god, I just died watching the Rudolph tribute! What an inspiration!Originally Posted by Duckenheimer
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12-10-2007, 09:49 AM #21Registered User
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I'd have to agree that Greene has made the most improvements this year. Can't wait to see Heath cut up though....did everyone see those off-season shots of him recently? Those were absolutely ref*ckingdiculous.
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12-10-2007, 09:49 AM #22LBD
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Is there a pro named Howl?Originally Posted by DiamondDelts
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12-10-2007, 11:24 AM #23Registered User
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This guy...2 Pro wins, Top 3 at Arnold.
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Didn't mean to leave out Freeman, but I think he lost much of his 2007 momentum at the O. Probably holding conditioning all summer hurt him for the O.
I have to give the nod to Kai Greene because he went from nobody to winner. Agree with above post, it's more than conditioning - look at the difference in the quads and delts!
Wolf made great gains but his physique was really overlooked in 2006. Better overall muscle maturity, a little more mass all over, and lats. If he's able to add just a little more for 08 he's there.
JOJ looked great at the O and could have been 7th behind Melvin. I really didn't think he was going to improve much more in his career but he did a really nice job.
Silvio improved while doing almost every 07 show in existence. I don't know how much more mass he can put his frame without spilling over. Needs delts and a 205lb division.
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12-10-2007, 12:07 PM #25Registered User
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hahahahahahahahaha damn man that is HIGH-larious. what are you smoking btwOriginally Posted by dpugh
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12-10-2007, 03:17 PM #26snailsrus
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x2.Originally Posted by dpugh
Heath will smoke Wolf, no doubt about it.▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ஜ۩۞۩ஜ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
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12-10-2007, 03:21 PM #27The Gun Show
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Unlikely, size wins over aesthetics at the Olympia, thats why Flex lost to Ronnie, thats why Ray lost to Yates, and thats why Heath willl lose to Wolf.Originally Posted by Coal Man
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12-10-2007, 03:28 PM #28Registered User
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Silvio,dude went from like the bottom of the barrel to a top 10 finish in like 8 shows including his first win in just a year. No one made a leap like that.
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i see that changing in the near futureOriginally Posted by Guardian
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12-10-2007, 03:30 PM #30snailsrus
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Nah...Ronnie had size and muscularity on Flex, as well as conditioning.Originally Posted by Guardian
Ray should have won against Yates a few times I'll give you that, but keep in mind that Phil is no manlet.
Wolf is not as muscular as Heath. Sure he's bigger, but he's not as complete.
Heath has MAMMOTH legs....they will dwarf Wolf's.▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ஜ۩۞۩ஜ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
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The no. 5 man at the olympia who blew everyone off stage and was the crowd favorite needs to watch out for a guy who felt he was not big enough to even step foot on the biggest stage of them all. This one should be a killer!
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