No disrespect to the IFBB, especially since bodybuilding.com has gotten pros to actually come here and talk on the boards, which is great....but why is there only a IFBB section? Why not have a WNBF section to? I'd say a lot of people would be interested in a forum dedicated to natural professional bodybuilding. I am not judging the use of any supplements, I just know that there are some of us weighlifters who don't want to cross the line into steroid or even prohormone use, and I think a WNBF section would give those people a place to feel more at home, considering without "help" they wouldn't be able to make it in the IFBB. Just a thought, mods, maybe a WNBF section, and get some of those pros to come on the boards, considering they don't get comparable exposure to IFBB pros I'm sure some would be interested, and once again, no disrespect to the IFBB, but why not right?
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Thread: Mods, why only the IFBB?
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08-12-2005, 02:30 PM #1PNBA Pro Bodybuilder
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Mods, why only the IFBB?
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08-12-2005, 02:36 PM #2Team Astroglide
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I think having the IFBB section is a "draw" for people to join the board, in order to gain access and be able to communicate with their bodybuilding idols. WNBF, NGA, etc proably don't have the same type of drawing power that the IFBB does.
$157 billion creates 650,000 jobs = $240,000 cost to create or save 1 job
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08-12-2005, 02:47 PM #3PNBA Pro Bodybuilder
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true, but just because somthing doesnt have the same draw doesnt mean that it shouldnt be there, look at the strongman section, sure it doesnt have the same draw as the IFBB forum, but it has a dedicated community, and Strongman isnt even pro bbing, and this IS bodybuilding.com, it would make sense it my mind to have a WNBF section before a strongman forum, know what I'm saying?
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08-12-2005, 04:04 PM #4IFBB Pro Bodybuilder
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We have a IFBB section, because I made an IFBB section.
Being a IFBB pro under contract as the spokesman for BB.com, it kind of makes sense...Bob Cicherillo - IFBB Pro Bodybuilder
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08-12-2005, 04:08 PM #5Registered User
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theres was already a ifbb section before Bob joined.. it was at the bottom of the forum.. it just got moved up when all the pros started joining.
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08-12-2005, 04:09 PM #6PNBA Pro Bodybuilder
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no disrespect, but if you read my post it had nothing to do with being against having the IFBB forum.....it was a inquiery into why we don't have a WNBF pro forum....I thank you for your explanation as to why we have an IFBB forum, but I did not ask why we have an IFBB forum, I asked why we don't have a WNBF forumOriginally Posted by Pro Bob Chick
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08-12-2005, 04:12 PM #7
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08-12-2005, 04:19 PM #8Registered User
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There is no WNBF section because bb.comsponsors some of the IFBB bodybuilders and the WNBF and IFBB are in competition, why would bb.com publicise them.
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08-12-2005, 04:24 PM #9PNBA Pro Bodybuilder
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this is just the forums, it's not like the sits has to sponsor the WNBF or donate money or anything like that, all it takes is an admin clicking on "new forum" I mean, does bodybuilding.com sponsor the strongman comp? if it does then my point is invalid.....but we have a forum for that, I don't think that the wnbf is at all even close to being able to compete with the IFBB...if the only reason we can't have a wnbf forum is politics, well...that's pretty lame....this site is supposed to be about bodybuilding right? not just one specific bodybuilding federation....just my thoughts
and once again...no disrespect to the IFBB or any pros within it
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08-12-2005, 04:28 PM #10Registered User
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Your right its all to do with politics, therse a reason WNBF has no power, its because the IFBB has a monopoly on the Pro bodybuilding market and gets all the sponsorship.Originally Posted by Quelly
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08-12-2005, 04:58 PM #11PNBA Pro Bodybuilder
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i know that, i just don't think the politics have to extend all the way into an internet forum....especially one that is supposed to be dedicated to providing all inclusive bodybuilding information....this is bodybuilding.com
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08-12-2005, 05:20 PM #12Team Astroglide
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well, I'm sure that if you were able to get enough WNBF pro's together, Ryan would create a section just for them. give it a shot.
$157 billion creates 650,000 jobs = $240,000 cost to create or save 1 job
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08-12-2005, 05:23 PM #13PNBA Pro Bodybuilder
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Originally Posted by j_neatherlin
will do
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08-12-2005, 05:24 PM #14IFBB Pro Bodybuilder
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Bro, I explained why we have an IFBB Pro section, and no WNBF section....
If I was a WNBF Pro, then there would be one of those....I created the IFBB Pro section because I'm an IFBB pro....don't know if I can explain it any easier.
There's no politics involved, and we don't have any WNBF "pro's" on contract, as there is little to no interest in natural shows or pro's....no offense to any and all involved in their federation or any other for that matter.Bob Cicherillo - IFBB Pro Bodybuilder
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08-12-2005, 05:24 PM #15??Originally Posted by Quelly
This isn't some sort of public service NGO. Its a private website/business.
They're only obligation is to themselves really,,,Last edited by Quintis Vindex; 08-12-2005 at 05:28 PM.
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08-12-2005, 05:26 PM #16PNBA Pro Bodybuilder
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if we got enough WNBF "Pros" (as you call them) together, could the site be provided with a forum?Originally Posted by Pro Bob ChickLast edited by Quelly; 08-12-2005 at 05:32 PM.
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08-12-2005, 05:30 PM #17PNBA Pro Bodybuilder
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well, as a customer to this private website/business I am expressing my opinion on a public forum related to the business, from a marketing/business standpoint, creating a WNBF forum would only draw more bodybuilders into the fold of this website, its not like everyone who posts in the IFBB section would all of a sudden say "**** this website i'm never buying from this site again!" if the forum was created, all it would do would give more to this sites customers (like myself) who aspire to becoming natural bbersOriginally Posted by Quintis Vindex
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08-12-2005, 07:23 PM #18The Physique Architect
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they aren't really in competition. The organizations mentioned are tested organizations while the IFBB is not (other than random diuretics testing, bob correct me if i'm wrong).Originally Posted by SiccSense
I don't think having a forum for one natural federation is a good idea because none of them are popular enough by themselves and there are about 15 natural bodybuilding organizations in this country and about 8 pro organizations. I think having a "competitive natural bodybuilding" forum is a better shot for having a good draw. As I said on the other thread, I'll talk to ryan about it and i'm pretty sure he'd be open to the idea.
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08-12-2005, 07:24 PM #19The Physique Architect
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Originally Posted by Pro Bob Chick
well i think there is interest in natural bodybuilding as a whole, but I think there are so many organizations it is hard to isolate one as THE natural bodybuilding organization.
If such a forum was created i'd take responsibility for it.
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08-12-2005, 07:25 PM #20almost at stage weight!
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Personally i don't understand why there would need to be "pros" under contract to have a forum. BB.com doesn't sell every type of supplement but there are supplement forums. If i posted something about a good supp they don't sell wouldn't that conflict with their interests. So it shouldn't have anything to do with the competition between the WNBF and the IFBB. I say put in the forum and see what happens. It won't hurt anything.
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08-12-2005, 07:33 PM #21Registered User
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WNBF/natural bodybuilding could be popular if it got as much publicity and sponsorship as the IFBB. Pro bodybuilding is a small marketplace anyway and one of the reasons the IFBB gets all the publicity is because supplement companies want to shock and awe young kids into buying supplements by using, on the whole unattainable physiques.
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08-12-2005, 07:52 PM #22The Physique Architect
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I'd say there is quite a bit of interest in natural bodybuilding if you'd put all the organizations together. The top pro shows for the NGA, Musclemania, WNBF, IFPA, and PNBA probably draw 7500 fans in total to the shows, which is about what the olympia draws.Originally Posted by SiccSense
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08-12-2005, 07:58 PM #23Registered User
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It would be good scenario if the natural bodybuilding organisations could find a way to merge and create one or two big entities, instead of many less powerful ones.Originally Posted by str8flexed
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08-12-2005, 08:46 PM #24The Physique Architect
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yes, i agree. unfortunately that means certain individuals will be giving up positions of power in their respective organizations. It also means they will have to agree on a certain method of testing, # of years drug free, type of substances banned.Originally Posted by SiccSense
I think it will eventually happen, but not for a number of years.
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08-12-2005, 08:52 PM #25MicroChipped Population
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yea i agree
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