The real key to being thin is being tolerant of hunger

[CosmicGate0289]

It cracks me up how people make it seem like thin people are just naturally a lot more healthy


The real separator between thin and fat people is thin people don't get overly bothered by mild hunger. Fat people treat mild hunger like a catastrophe



Discuss

[DrewDarden]

There is some truth to that.

My brother and I grew up together in the same household. We're literally 363 days apart in age. We have similar athletic backgrounds. We look alike in the face, have similar limb lengths, and even muscle shapes, etc. All of that is the same.

But from birth, I was just always bigger than him.

I struggled with my weight and he's always been lean.

He eats like chit... junk food, energy drinks, fast food, just like 90% of Miscers who are constantly making fun of fat people. He's never restricted food a day in his life. He's just not hungry enough to eat himself fat. He couldn't do it if he tried. I could eat until I was on My 600 Pound Life, no problem at all.

He wrestled in HS at 112-119 pounds (and was damn good), and I wrestled at 189.

He'll be <150 pounds until the day he dies. I'll be dead for months before my body ever weighs 150 pounds again.

[Redfish225]

They also don’t eat the healthiest of foods either, doesn’t help much at all.

[FAPhaggot]

Repost.

[CosmicGate0289]

There is some truth to that.

My brother and I grew up together in the same household. We're literally 363 days apart in age. We have similar athletic backgrounds. We look alike in the face, have similar limb lengths, and even muscle shapes, etc. All of that is the same.

But from birth, I was just always bigger than him.

I struggled with my weight and he's always been lean.

He eats like chit... junk food, energy drinks, fast food, just like 90% of Miscers who are constantly making fun of fat people. He's never restricted food a day in his life. He's just not hungry enough to eat himself fat. He couldn't do it if he tried. I could eat until I was on My 600 Pound Life, no problem at all.

He wrestled in HS at 112-119 pounds (and was damn good), and I wrestled at 189.

He'll be <150 pounds until the day he dies. I'll be dead for months before my body ever weighs 150 pounds again.

The difference is he just doesn't care that much about food and doesn't treat mild hunger like a catastrophe

You treat mild hunger like end of the world

[DrewDarden]

The difference is he just doesn't care that much about food and doesn't treat mild hunger like a catastrophe

You treat mild hunger like end of the world

You're just playing semantic games, repeating what I wrote in a way that you think makes it sound more favorable to your worldview about fat people.

You're right though. I do not like being hungry at all, which is why it's a miracle that I've lost as much fat as I have and been in a calorie deficit for as long as I have.

It's a miserable experience a lot of the time.

[SpeakethTruth]

Cook your own meals and make most of them plain meat (no sauces, salt, sugar etc), rice and steamed vegetables. You definitely won't get fat on that because you'll lose your appetite way before you can consume enough calories to get fat.

[DrewDarden]

Cook your own meals and make most of them plain meat (no sauces, salt, sugar etc), rice and steam vegetables. You definitely won't get fat on that because you'll lose your appetite way before you can consume enough calories to get fat.

This post is more proof about the differences between fat people and people who could never eat themselves truly fat.

This is what I've eaten every day for 33 consecutive weeks. Cravings for junk go away, but hunger? Absolutely not. I could easily triple or quadruple these sizes every day and still go back for more. I'm hungry all day srs. People ask me all the time at work if I want some food because my stomach is growling so loud.



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[frankdtank20]

Skipping on empty calories is a biggie too. Whether candy, soda (liquid candy), white rice, booze, etc. And I'd bet the majority of obese people eat a full meal's worth of calories after dinner. People talk about portion sizes in the US, but OP is onto something which is that obese people's problem is more often eating too often.

[DrewDarden]

Skipping on empty calories is a biggie too. Whether candy, soda (liquid candy), white rice, booze, etc. And I'd bet the majority of obese people eat a full meal's worth of calories after dinner. People talk about portion sizes in the US, but OP is onto something which is that obese people's problem is more often eating too often.

This thread speaks to me, so I guess I'm going to keep inserting myself into it lol. Not trying to disprove anybody or anything... but I've actually been one of the people you're talking about, so I have actual experience. I've been 160 pounds heavier than I am now.

-I've been lifting weights since I was 14.
-I haven't had a soft drink since I was 8-9 years old srs. Makes me sick to smell them.
-I haven't had alcohol in a decade. I drank a Corona at the beach...and before that, it was probably another decade. I'd much rather be jacked up on a pot of coffee than brought down by alcohol.
-I haven't eaten sugary candy since I was a kid either. Same as soft drinks.

For me, it had nothing to do with what people think of as sugary foods or drinks. It was straight up engulfing cheeseburgers and pizza.

I'm sure a lot of fat people probably do drink/eat a ton of sugar, but for me, the problems are starchy carbs, salt, fat, cheese, etc.

[Paul Kreul]

There is some truth to that.

My brother and I grew up together in the same household. We're literally 363 days apart in age. We have similar athletic backgrounds. We look alike in the face, have similar limb lengths, and even muscle shapes, etc. All of that is the same.

But from birth, I was just always bigger than him.

I struggled with my weight and he's always been lean.

He eats like chit... junk food, energy drinks, fast food, just like 90% of Miscers who are constantly making fun of fat people. He's never restricted food a day in his life. He's just not hungry enough to eat himself fat. He couldn't do it if he tried. I could eat until I was on My 600 Pound Life, no problem at all.

He wrestled in HS at 112-119 pounds (and was damn good), and I wrestled at 189.

He'll be <150 pounds until the day he dies. I'll be dead for months before my body ever weighs 150 pounds again.

This perfectly describes my brother & I. I eat horribly, drink energy drinks, beer, I eat all day..but I’m 45 with a 31inch waist. He has a 38 inch waist, not fat but has to watch what he eats/drinks.

[jonmcd46]

It's definitely a factor, probably not the biggest factor. I'm sure plenty of fat people feel hungry often but have chit diets/habits
I hate how people feel like they need to eat or have a meal/snack. Like you aren't going to starve, there's no need to go to the vending machine or eat chit you don't enjoy just to not be hungry for a little bit. People need to learn that being uncomfortable is part of life, chits not gonna be perfect all the time
People cope too, studies show that skipping meals is bad, I don't want to develop an eating disorder etc

[Bodhy]

I don't think so, personally. The key is just getting used to eating healthy. It's meant to be a lifestyle, not a diet you go on and off (except in the sense of cutting and bulking).

I've never been hungry on a diet. If you're getting hungry on a diet something is off. Try adding in more meals but divving up the calories further. I eat every 2-3 hours and it works well for me. Whenever I start to get hungry, it's time to eat again.

[monster0ultra]

Another retarded car salesman endless spam thread. Inb4 the other variation "look at my pitbull".

How much you eat determines how much you weigh. Your genetics (and drugs) determine how fat you are.

Consider Larry Wheels, he trains the exact same way as every other fat fuk powerlifter, takes the same steroids. They're both 300lbs yet they're fat and he's jacked.

Consider the opposite example, Ratfish. He can CICO all he wants but all losing weight will do is turn him into a smaller version of himself, he doesn't get abs, he's still skinnyfat, just skinnyfat and weighing less.

[outfoxxed]

and how do you think you can be more tolerant of hunger?

hint: satiety

[SuperHercules]

It's more about genetics, diet, and physical activity

I eat a fukton of food but I don't like sugar or junk food, and I'm active

You don't even have to be strict. Counting macros is only for competitive bodybuilders or autistic losers. Just avoid junk food and sugar

[kusok]

Nah. People with better insulin sensitivity just don’t get as hungry, that’s all, if you get hungry it means your insulin is garbage, and you simply need to be on a low carb diet, it is that simple.

Once it improves, you can actually go back and increase your carbs a little bit, and they will not cause you to get hungry. In addition metabolically compromised people also get very tired after eating carbs, which then means that they’re less likely to move and exercise, which leads to more fat gain.

I’m a classic case, if I eat carbs I get so hungry and sleepy that I have to follow a low carb diet, about 95% carnivore. Then I feel 100% all day long without any hunger or energy swings.

[FAPhaggot]

This post is more proof about the differences between fat people and people who could never eat themselves truly fat.

This is what I've eaten every day for 33 consecutive weeks. Cravings for junk go away, but hunger? Absolutely not. I could easily triple or quadruple these sizes every day and still go back for more. I'm hungry all day srs. People ask me all the time at work if I want some food because my stomach is growling so loud.



https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...5243593&page=1

Fawwwwwk, all about the feel train.

Dieted for 6 months last year. Got to goal weight, my nonstop hunger started to normalize a bit, and I was like "OK, I'm good to just eat to fullness now."

Put on 8 pounds in 8 weeks, and spent another 2 months dieting that all back off.

I'm hungry all the phuckin time and could absolutely crush 2x the food I eat every day. But as soon as I give in even a little, that scale starts ticking up again.

Pretty sure I damaged my insulin response eating hyper-processed chit for like 25 years.

[monster0ultra]

Fawwwwwk, all about the feel train.

Dieted for 6 months last year. Got to goal weight, my nonstop hunger started to normalize a bit, and I was like "OK, I'm good to just eat to fullness now."

Put on 8 pounds in 8 weeks, and spent another 2 months dieting that all back off.

I'm hungry all the phuckin time and could absolutely crush 2x the food I eat every day. But as soon as I give in even a little, that scale starts ticking up again.

Pretty sure I damaged my insulin response eating hyper-processed chit for like 25 years.

I'm pretty sure insulin response is easy to reset. Once the body realizes the carbs aren't coming in, it switches to burning fat and voila, your insulin response is good. A few days of fasting is all it takes but that's been my experience, maybe other people are different.

[CosmicGate0289]

This perfectly describes my brother & I. I eat horribly, drink energy drinks, beer, I eat all day..but I’m 45 with a 31inch waist. He has a 38 inch waist, not fat but has to watch what he eats/drinks.

It's cause you're just a very small eater

[MEDITATE]

well duh..... any fat person is fat because he/she cant close their pig mouth ..... go on a 1000 calories a day for 6 month and you lose anything from 30lbs to 60lbs..... 1000calories a day for 1 year and youll lose 100+ pounds depending on how of a pig that person is ..... then start building up your physique

inb4 : but youll lose all muscle

[DrewDarden]

It's cause you're just a very small eater

This is the same as saying I have a healthy liver because I don't drink alcohol.

It's not addressing anything.

No chit, it's because I don't drink alcohol. The question is why do some people have to fight a lifelong addiction to alcohol after drinking a few times as a teenager, whereas I have literally zero interest in it? It's not simply: "because I don't drink."

[davik]

There is some truth to that.

My brother and I grew up together in the same household. We're literally 363 days apart in age. We have similar athletic backgrounds. We look alike in the face, have similar limb lengths, and even muscle shapes, etc. All of that is the same.

But from birth, I was just always bigger than him.

I struggled with my weight and he's always been lean.

He eats like chit... junk food, energy drinks, fast food, just like 90% of Miscers who are constantly making fun of fat people. He's never restricted food a day in his life. He's just not hungry enough to eat himself fat. He couldn't do it if he tried. I could eat until I was on My 600 Pound Life, no problem at all.

He wrestled in HS at 112-119 pounds (and was damn good), and I wrestled at 189.

He'll be <150 pounds until the day he dies. I'll be dead for months before my body ever weighs 150 pounds again.

youre just obese thats why

[Paul Kreul]

It's cause you're just a very small eater

Nah, I’ll finish a whole pizza or order of carne asada fries with a beer 2 hours before wife makes dinner (she will cook healthy, typically always steak, ground beef, chicken, etc), and then I’ll finish with a piece of cake or some type of dessert. I should be huge at my age.

[DrewDarden]

youre just obese thats why

And still I have a great life. I've raised good kids, have a great wife. I like what I do for work. Have a beautiful house in one of the most desirable neighborhoods in town.

And you're a miserable little fuk always going on about wanting to end your life.

Must suck to suck.

Srs.

[MEDITATE]

And still I have a great life. I've raised good kids, have a great wife. I like what I do for work. Have a beautiful house in one of the most desirable neighborhoods in town.

And you're a miserable little fuk always going on about wanting to end your life.

Must suck to suck.

Srs.

are you seriously arguing with miscers and justifying your life to them....bruh

[DrewDarden]

are you seriously arguing with miscers and justifying your life to them....bruh

When in Rome?

Why am I the only one here held to that standard? I'm not going to sit around and get beat up by a fuking dork. Why shouldn't I defend myself?

[CosmicGate0289]

This is the same as saying I have a healthy liver because I don't drink alcohol.

It's not addressing anything.

No chit, it's because I don't drink alcohol. The question is why do some people have to fight a lifelong addiction to alcohol after drinking a few times as a teenager, whereas I have literally zero interest in it? It's not simply: "because I don't drink."

My point is a lot of skinny people deny they have no appetite and are fine being hungry for long periods of time

[CosmicGate0289]

Nah, I’ll finish a whole pizza or order of carne asada fries with a beer 2 hours before wife makes dinner (she will cook healthy, typically always steak, ground beef, chicken, etc), and then I’ll finish with a piece of cake or some type of dessert. I should be huge at my age.

And then you conveniently forget the 4 other days of the week where you eat 1000 calories a day cause you're stressed out

[DrewDarden]

My point is a lot of skinny people deny they have no appetite and are fine being hungry for long periods of time

I think you've made your point very clear. It's just not helpful. It doesn't address anything.

We all know fat people eat more.

Just like alcoholics drink more alcohol.

No chit.

And Brian Shaw is stronger than everybody in the world because he lifts more weight.

The question is why.

That's what I (and several others ITT) have been addressing.