Good discussion on Disney’s current state of business.
Some cliffs; “Disney has engaged in the greatest act of brand suicide in recorded history”.
1. Customers have filed complaints with the SEC for controversial political and ideological propaganda.
2. Lost 900 Billion total
3. The original writers and staff were all fired and replaced by individuals that are so backwards, even if they wanted to revert back to traditional writing and values, they wouldn’t even know where to begin. They created a bubble of ideology without any diversity of thought.
4. Even if they wanted to make a movie with values aligning with their audience, it would take a minimum of 3 years.
He makes a good point in that the right understands the left, but the left doesn’t understand the right. The right makes up a huge portion of their audience, and because of a lack of understanding of traditional values, Disney will never recover.
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Thread: Disney’s Suicide
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11-28-2023, 03:17 PM #1
Disney’s Suicide
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11-28-2023, 03:44 PM #2
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Sometimes you need to go the Bud Light route to understand what happens when you alienate your core customer base.
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11-28-2023, 03:55 PM #3
This was the communist/socialist plan all along. Financial institutions promoting ESG/DEI in the most recognized American brands so the new generation will not even know or recognize what a democracy and capitalism is. Once all these biggest American brands like Disney, Anheiser Busch, Target, etc commit brand suicide, it'll be easier to stage a political revolution and install a communist government.
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11-28-2023, 03:55 PM #4
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11-28-2023, 03:58 PM #6
Surely Disney will be going out of business and shutting down their parks any day now. Just keep wishing them away … out of business by the end of this month …. Surely/
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11-28-2023, 04:02 PM #7
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11-28-2023, 04:09 PM #8Don't push me 'cause I'm close to the edge
I'm trying not to lose my head
It's like a jungle sometimes
It makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under…~ (Melvin Glover, better known by his stage name Melle Mel and Grandmaster Melle Mel, is an American hip hop recording artist who was the lead vocalist and songwriter of Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five.)
Early AM workout crew.
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11-28-2023, 04:11 PM #9
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11-28-2023, 04:16 PM #10
Y’all love to assume if we are not on board with your agenda we root for gays and trannies because there is no middle ground for the retarded right. Perhaps sending some more Nazis to picket and protest in front of the Disney entrance with their Swastika and Desantis flags will change regular people’s minds to accept that Disney is the real evil and join the Nazis instead.
Don't push me 'cause I'm close to the edge
I'm trying not to lose my head
It's like a jungle sometimes
It makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under…~ (Melvin Glover, better known by his stage name Melle Mel and Grandmaster Melle Mel, is an American hip hop recording artist who was the lead vocalist and songwriter of Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five.)
Early AM workout crew.
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11-28-2023, 04:24 PM #11
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11-28-2023, 04:36 PM #14
KoF is the perfect example of what the discussion was describing. He doesn’t understand anything except what is in his own little bubble.
Demand is based on the wants and needs of the consumer. Disney became successful because it provided services and products that the consumers enjoyed and wanted. THe leftists come along and change their products and services based on what they want the consumers to buy instead, and now the consumer is no longer buying. If a company isnt selling anything the consumer wants or needs, they take their business elsewhere. Demand disappears.
Meanwhile, leftists conflate economics with their own malicious behavior of cancel culture. They don’t get this, because they think that people actually want the garbage they are selling. It’s yet another form of projection and gaslighting.Last edited by Kraken; 11-28-2023 at 07:50 PM.
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
"To Call something fair or unfair is a subjective value judgment and not liable to any verification" Ludwig Von Mises
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11-28-2023, 04:39 PM #15
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11-28-2023, 04:41 PM #16
Just LOL coming from a non American “Canadian” Cultist that believes anyone not in his cult bubble are the fringe lunatics.
Just your run of the mill “non nazi” PAtRioTs rooting for traditional values in the photos of their activism
Don't push me 'cause I'm close to the edge
I'm trying not to lose my head
It's like a jungle sometimes
It makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under…~ (Melvin Glover, better known by his stage name Melle Mel and Grandmaster Melle Mel, is an American hip hop recording artist who was the lead vocalist and songwriter of Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five.)
Early AM workout crew.
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11-28-2023, 04:46 PM #17
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11-28-2023, 05:28 PM #20
People who are completely apolitical have checked out with Disney's brands. In their ideological process they've made characters' stories vapid and uninteresting. If a girl boss has no hero's journey and is immediately a near demi-god with her newly discovered powers that takes away mystique from the plot. If literally just gender swapping out a role written for a man and replacing it with a woman there's nothing identifiable about the character being a woman. Because believe it or not, men and women are different (gasp!!!!) and should be written a little differently. After this happens repeatedly people instinctively become disinterested. The story telling becomes not just unrealistic, but predictable and boring.
It also doesn't help that every time they want a female character to be strong they have to make the male characters around her all buffoons. Like The Hulk. Ya don't have to make all the men weak to elevate the female but they lazily write it that way. They've committed the same crime with characters from older movies. Make them at best sidekicks, while being bitter, crusty, depressed. Luke Skywalker and Indiana Jones come to mind.
And a few times they've made the plot of prior movies and victories won pointless with the new storylines. It ends up being a middle finger to the prior films. Or in the case of Nick Fury in the latest Marvels movie I guess he spends most of his screen time dealing with cats on a space ship. That badass eyepatch on a badass character who oversees superheroes across the universe, losing his eye was from....a cat? GTFO here.
And holy crap at basically everything other than their Pixar films being a sequel or a remake. For fuk's sake please don't make another Thor or Captain America movie. It also doesn't help when some of their lead actors act like insipid, entitled kunts in interviews. Or that their executives run to very publicly blame (insert group) when one of their films doesn't do well. Disney doesn't react well when a film doesn't do well. Instead of using it as feedback they rush to play the blame game. Weak AF.
All recipes for disaster. Then there's sheer overkill with the volume of Marvel movies. See, piles of crap mistakes by Disney while barely scratching the surface of culture war stuff. Libs and centrists get turned away, because of bad story telling and unnecessarily making beloved characters into absolute zeroes.Last edited by frankdtank20; 11-28-2023 at 05:41 PM.
Light weight! Light weight baby!!!!
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11-28-2023, 05:32 PM #21
They should wipe out the three star wars sequels from cannon. Get all the original actors. Exceot fisher. And use cgi for her and cgi to make them look young again like they did luke on the mandolrian and make a new sequel trilogy .
Just start over.
Marvel can be saved if they hurry up . If they screw secret wars up it's game overLast edited by latverian41; 11-28-2023 at 05:59 PM.
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11-28-2023, 05:40 PM #22
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11-28-2023, 05:42 PM #23
Great post.
Publicly traded companies telling consumers what they want instead of giving them what they want at the expense of profits to purchase private agenda. This is of course illegal, the company's number one duty is to its shareholders, not to those who would use the company's influence to push political agenda - Disney should not be fined or put out of business, it should be in jail lol.
Demand is based on the wants and needs of the customer in a free market. Demand can be artificially manipulated in a number of ways. No one wants electric cars, government comes in to manipulate the public through fear(climate collapse) and comfort(ev subsidy), Elon becomes the richest man in the world selling a product no one really wants and thinks he is THE technological genius of his generation if not all time.
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11-28-2023, 05:44 PM #24
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11-28-2023, 06:18 PM #29
He probably doesn’t have kids either. A couple years ago my daughter was watching cartoons on Disney + and I happened to come out while she was watching them. It was all racist propaganda, and at one point the kids on the show were talking about how cool it was that one of them had two dads. They elevated the two dads above having a mother and father. It was pretty over the top and obvious what they were doing. Singing songs about black culture and how colonialists were bad people. It’s like we were watching BET version of the KKK.
We ditched Disney that week and had to have a discussion with my daughter about what she was watching. She fully understands now why Disney is evil and was cool with getting rid of it.One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
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11-28-2023, 06:20 PM #30
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