Landmine handles necessary when multigym available?

[DVG93]

I am looking to get a landmine for my rack to do some rotational exercises and introduce some variety to my workout.

Wondering if it is worthwhile getting any handles when I already have a pretty versatile home gym (Life fitness CM3, can do low row, bicep rope curls, lat pulldowns, etc)

[gym62richard]

A landmine is a relatively cheap way to add some variety to your gym, no real need for any specialised handles, just a landmine base and a barbell will suffice, sure handles are a nice addition, especially a Tee bar attachment for rows.

The first time I remember seeing a guy in the gym doing landmine type movements, he just had the lower portion of the bar pushed into a corner.

[tombro]

Can we please get a mod to get rid of this guy he’s trying to hock a 250 dollar thing that’s less reliable and stable than the 25 dollar t bar handle from titan. Even if that product was the second coming of the prowler I still think he shouldn’t be promoting it himself here

[Deep-Voiced-One]

Tombro, says the dude in red...I'm not advertising, but rather suggesting a product and I have used the BBP myself. If the guy don't want one that's fine, simple suggestion.

Don't speak upon a product you clearly know nothing about and never once have I seen picture proof of your home gym you claim to have, you seem like you're bored and trolling pages.

[EricAtl]

Rogue and BWTG handles are 75. I would buy the Titan close grip, both 1.3 and 1.9 are out of stock. Thinking I should get the 1.3 and can add my fat grips if needed. I ordered the rogue Landmine post for 45 with the Black Friday deal.
I have done some Landmine rows with a bar stuffed into some plates using a regular close grip pull down attachment. A true Landmine attachment will work better.

[tombro]

Wait a second lol you mock me being in red like that matters to me .01 of 1 percent but that being said you are basically saying that my own eyes don’t work. I watched the YouTube video of the guy using that red thing that literally gives you no range of motion on the one side and then when he flipped it it looked like it gave him maybe 20 percent the range of motion that any of the 40 dollar landmine bars from CFF or titan or anywhere else would give you but in exchange the grip looks mega uncomfortable like it would destroy your wrists using anything more than two plates. So basically give my company an extra 200 dollars And get a lesser product.

I also wouldn’t trust that thing doing a lat pull down of more than 100 pounds because the part attached to the carabiner is a half moon and not fully attached around the carabiner so I wouldn’t trust it for a second that if one yanked the wrong way it would come loose and knocked your teeth out.

Ur right though I obviously know nothing about landmine grips or lat pull down attachments or anything despite the fact that I own maybe 7 or 8 landmine grips and 30 or 40 lat attachments you got me man I’m a trolling noob. Good luck selling the 450 dollar football bar too in 2009 when 19 other companies don’t sell the same thing for a third of the price

[Deep-Voiced-One]

Speaking of the BWTG handles, the thick multi-grip handle they have looks cool, the powdercoat on Dean's attachments got a good grip...

http://www.blackwidowtg.com/Multi_Gr...multi-grip.htm

[tombro]

Lol “hey if I put a link to another unbiased site then it will look like I promote all gym equipment equally and throw people off my scent!”

[Deep-Voiced-One]

Tombro, I clearly recommend a lot of different products (this is the equipment forum after all and there are all ranges of different pieces out there from all different companies), the BBP is pricey (as is a lot of other equipment, purchase at your own discretion when owning a home gym), but it is versatile in what it does and the build of it is heavy-duty there's no risk with the T-bar application/carabiner hook on pulldowns as I have went well over 100 lbs and beyond with it and its held up just fine.

As for the FBB, it has knurling, rotating handles, zinc coated very mildly ribbed sleeves, takes all collars and has bar protectors on it compared to other fab bars in that category...Oh and you forgot it's $435 (total price), not $450...Since you don't seem to listen too good, I don't care either way what someone orders, or doesn't order from whatever company, it's simply a suggestion plain and simple and I have recommended products from all different sources on my posts (do your research instead of being ignorant).

As for my response above to the OP, I clearly stated "This is clearly personal preference on which handles to choose if you wanted to do T-bar rows with the landmine piece" insinuating to get what seems fit for your budget, needs, wants, etc...Then I simply suggested a product that I find versatile and posted it with the link.

Anyways done with the senseless drama you're tearing up about and back on topic with the OP's thread and answers to his questions.

[tombro]

You very well may “ recommend “ other products in your storied history here but I’ve noticed the last four or five you’ve “recommended”coincidentally happen to be your own so after the fifth time I called you out plain and simple. And no you are right I didn’t read your 1,000 posts before making that statement just like I don’t do a life history background check on the guy in the supermarket parking lot who cuts me off and steals my spot before I flip hm off. Life happens man. And your t bar in the video still makes me and anyone else who knows thing one about this stuff chuckle. That’s the thing about selling a product with functional issues for five times what it would be worth even if it had zero issues, sometimes you sell it to a noob who doesn’t know better and all is right with the world for you but sometimes a veteran in the field calls you out. Today was that day for you. End it and quit while ur behind

[rpark]

Deep Voiced One, I'm not a mod, just just recently noticed your signature. While good intentioned, it might be borderline advertising. I'm inclined to side with the red troll tombro on this one. You might want to tone it back before the mods take notice.

and OP, I've had a landmine for a while, but never got any handles. I think you can do a lot of stuff without handles, but clearly adding some inexpensive handles could give you more options for exercises.

[rlundregan]

Deep Voiced One, I'm not a mod, just just recently noticed your signature. While good intentioned, it might be borderline advertising. I'm inclined to side with the red troll tombro on this one. You might want to tone it back before the mods take notice.

Agreed ^^

DVO, neither of us are trying to be jerks, we're just trying to keep you out of trouble. You've been a solid contributor around here for a while, I'd hate to see you get yourself banned. Take a look at how Duke conducts himself on the forum here and follow his example.

[Deep-Voiced-One]

Rlundregan, fair enough, not looking to advertise, or tout any affiliated products. I would speak highly of an excellent quality product whether it was decently priced, or a bit more if the quality, or versatility was there even if it wasn't mine as most of the knowledged forum members know already.

I was actually against the sig line at first for this reason (any detailed reviews of mine on these bars speak for themselves if they were interested and that was when I had no affiliation with them) I just put the sig line as an accessible after thought should someone wanna know about the company.

As for my previous post it was just a recommendation based on what I've used from a versatility stand point and another option out of the many, not intentional of advertising and didn't care if it was, or was not affiliated.

I appreciate you looking out for me and since there was the risk of someone such as a mod inadvertently thinking that, or getting the wrong idea of my good intentions, I deleted that post.

As for the red troll, I actually got a good laugh from his ignorance (despite my post appearing to look angry in internet lingo which it wasn't)...mainly cause he tries to stir up trouble with false accusations and product representations at 40 years of age if he even is that.

[tombro]

Of course I’m right, the guys been soliciting here for a while.
And I love it how just because I’m in “red” people say I’m a troll lol. Go back and look at any post I’ve ever made here and u will see they were intelligent and researched and I don’t disagree that i don’t sugarcoat my comments but I’d rather be told by a troll now that I’m a moron for spending 700 dollars for example on a keys fitness seated calf than learn it myself five years from now and say crap that incentive troll was right. I was under the impression that we are all men here and men were supposed to have steel plated skin like myself

[tombro]

I’m stirring up trouble? You think what I said was a false accusation? What part about the following statement is false you tell me....here goes..... Ok go watch the link to the video this guy attached of the red bar on the landmine and tell me if it’s not borderline comical how stupid it is that the guy in the video has to stop the movement less than a third of the way up because a 45 lb plate would hit his chest otherwise. Am I in the twilight zone here where this guy is still defending this thing? Just admit it bro ur bar is 250 dollars for something that doesn’t work and the red troll is trying to call you out on it so you either improve its design by maybe clambering it or something or stop ripping off honest people who don’t realize it until the first time they use it and say oh crap this thing is useless let me just call it a loss and toss it in a Home Depot bucket for 12 years before selling it on Craig’s for 20 bucks. I’ve been there and my intention in this thread is to stop other people from being there

Unless of course your intent with this thing was for people to use a dozen ten pound plates with it, in which case you should emphasize that on your amazingly done web page

[rlundregan]

Yip! Yip! Yip!

Give it a rest.....

[tombro]

Lol

[RestoringTally]

Rlundregan, fair enough, not looking to advertise, or tout any affiliated products. I would speak highly of an excellent quality product whether it was decently priced, or a bit more if the quality, or versatility was there even if it wasn't mine as most of the knowledged forum members know already.

I was actually against the sig line at first for this reason (any detailed reviews of mine on these bars speak for themselves if they were interested and that was when I had no affiliation with them) I just put the sig line as an accessible after thought should someone wanna know about the company.

As for my previous post it was just a recommendation based on what I've used from a versatility stand point and another option out of the many, not intentional of advertising and didn't care if it was, or was not affiliated.

I appreciate you looking out for me and since there was the risk of someone such as a mod inadvertently thinking that, or getting the wrong idea of my good intentions, I deleted that post.

Generally, that is known as advertising.

It is good to identify yourself as a vendor rep for full disclosure. But by being a rep you are taking on the additional responsibility of not appearing to be a shill for the company. You are on a forum run by a company that frowns on vendors using the forum for advertising. And many members, myself included, do not want to read posts by vendors pushing or advertising their products. Informative announcements are great. Pushing products, not so much. Your original post listing a device sold by the company you represent is close to, if not over, the line.

[EricAtl]

Maybe this thread can get back on the rails. This looks like an interesting attachment, made by body solid. You can then use any cable attachment you already have for Landmine exercises. Anyone use it. And no, I don’t work for body solid.

[DVG93]

Maybe this thread can get back on the rails. This looks like an interesting attachment, made by body solid. You can then use any cable attachment you already have for Landmine exercises. Anyone use it. And no, I don’t work for body solid.

I will probably just go with the landmine by itself for now, but this looks interesting. Looks like you would lose a bit of ROM compared with the purpose built options, though.

What do people typically use as blocks to get additional ROM? Do most people DIY?

[rlundregan]

I will probably just go with the landmine by itself for now, but this looks interesting. Looks like you would lose a bit of ROM compared with the purpose built options, though.

What do people typically use as blocks to get additional ROM? Do most people DIY?

I'm not sure that most people need additional ROM unless they are attempting to do belt squats. However, a lot of us will use 35's or 25's, because they don't make contact with your chest as quickly as 45's do.

I like the attachment that EricATL pictured. I haven't used it, but a lot of us have lat pulldowns or other cable pieces, so we tend to have those handles sitting around. No reason not to put them to double duty.

For my landmine, I have a close grip row handle which I use a lot--I use it for both single and double handed movements. I also have a straight T bar handle, which I almost never use anymore. This is really a matter of personal preference.

If I had an attachment that would allow me to use all of my lat pulldown handles, I could see myself using the tricep rope handle a lot with a landmine.

[Deep-Voiced-One]

Generally, that is known as advertising.

It is good to identify yourself as a vendor rep for full disclosure. But by being a rep you are taking on the additional responsibility of not appearing to be a shill for the company. You are on a forum run by a company that frowns on vendors using the forum for advertising. And many members, myself included, do not want to read posts by vendors pushing or advertising their products. Informative announcements are great. Pushing products, not so much. Your original post listing a device sold by the company you represent is close to, if not over, the line.

RestoringTally, I took that sig line off my posts now (the top sentence was from another page posted as that headline when I pasted it at the time which was why it looked like advertising, but was not my intention).

[cwcmac]

I will probably just go with the landmine by itself for now, but this looks interesting. Looks like you would lose a bit of ROM compared with the purpose built options, though.

What do people typically use as blocks to get additional ROM? Do most people DIY?

Seems the extra chain links are totally unnecessary and could be removed which would make the ROM not too much different than a typical landmine handle

[RestoringTally]

Maybe this thread can get back on the rails. This looks like an interesting attachment, made by body solid. You can then use any cable attachment you already have for Landmine exercises. Anyone use it. And no, I don’t work for body solid.

I will probably just go with the landmine by itself for now, but this looks interesting. Looks like you would lose a bit of ROM compared with the purpose built options, though.

What do people typically use as blocks to get additional ROM? Do most people DIY?

You need the chain to raise the handle past a 45 plate so that handle does not hit the plate. And yes, a platform is helpful. I have a home-made platform with 2x6 & 2x4 planks set cross-wise on top of a pair of 4x4s. I position the platform inside the plates and it gives me about 5" of additional ROM. I bought some plates and the seller asked if I wanted the platform. I don't turn down anything that is free. Turned out to be a great deal because I use the platform a lot.



The collar on the sleeve is too long. It does not need to be that long because the chain will be angled away from the sleeve when using the handle.

I made a similar attachment device out of an old-school collar and chain (if I need the extra space from the bar to clear the plates). The collar was the type that had a T-handle on a bolt to lock the collar down. I replaced the locking bolt on the collar with an eye-bolt. The collar takes up about 2" of the sleeve, which is fine.

Collar on top is original. Collar on bottom has eye-bolt with nylon locknut and carabiner.

[tombro]

I will say this much for elitefts. I got their econo landmine post years back and it always bothered me that Chinese companies make them for 20 bucks when I paid 100. Until I actually saw a Chinese one. The elitefts one has a solid steel beam that slides into the bumpers so it never ever slides out, it proble weighs like 13 lbs and the Chinese tin ones weigh like 2 lbs and slide out when used with the elitefts landmine base because the plates are not set on ground level when it’s used. By the way that base for 150 bucks on sale might be the next addition to my gym in the last year it’s so amazing to replicate a real t bar row machine perfectly, you can do them just fine off th ground because you don’t know what ur missing by using the base

[EricAtl]

You need the chain to raise the handle past a 45 plate so that handle does not hit the plate. And yes, a platform is helpful. I have a home-made platform with 2x6 & 2x4 planks set cross-wise on top of a pair of 4x4s. I position the platform inside the plates and it gives me about 5" of additional ROM. I bought some plates and the seller asked if I wanted the platform. I don't turn down anything that is free. Turned out to be a great deal because I use the platform a lot.



The collar on the sleeve is too long. It does not need to be that long because the chain will be angled away from the sleeve when using the handle.

I made a similar attachment device out of an old-school collar and chain (if I need the extra space from the bar to clear the plates). The collar was the type that had a T-handle on a bolt to lock the collar down. I replaced the locking bolt on the collar with an eye-bolt. The collar takes up about 2" of the sleeve, which is fine.

Collar on top is original. Collar on bottom has eye-bolt with nylon locknut and carabiner.

Thanks, on spread. Found this thread that mentions a hog leg collar, shorter than the body solid. I read in a review, Amazon I think, that the body solid is too long. Is this just because it limits the amount of weight you can add or is there some issue. Good idea on the platform.
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...9800563&page=6

[daniel327]

Go back and look at any post I’ve ever made here and u will see they were intelligent and researched

You also believe in unicorns.

[irongrandpa]

Maybe this thread can get back on the rails. This looks like an interesting attachment, made by body solid. You can then use any cable attachment you already have for Landmine exercises. Anyone use it. And no, I don’t work for body solid.

A year or so ago, I made one these for Ironwill and myself. It's just a 2" piece of 2" pipe, I cut the end off of a chain link and welded that to the pipe.

[RestoringTally]

Thanks, on spread. Found this thread that mentions a hog leg collar, shorter than the body solid. I read in a review, Amazon I think, that the body solid is too long. Is this just because it limits the amount of weight you can add or is there some issue. Good idea on the platform.

A longer collar puts the weights further out from the pivot and from the collar attachment. This has the advantage of making the lift harder because you are lifting more weight.

But the longer collar also means you cannot add as many plates to the sleeve. If you use 45s, that is not usually not a problem. But some like to use 25s (or even 10s) so that they can pull the bar close to their chest and increase ROM. A longer collar means less sleeve to hold the smaller plates, which means less weight lifted.

[EricAtl]

A longer collar puts the weights further out from the pivot and from the collar attachment. This has the advantage of making the lift harder because you are lifting more weight.

But the longer collar also means you cannot add as many plates to the sleeve. If you use 45s, that is not usually not a problem. But some like to use 25s (or even 10s) so that they can pull the bar close to their chest and increase ROM. A longer collar means less sleeve to hold the smaller plates, which means less weight lifted.

Makes sense. I did some trials a couple of months ago with a barbell tucked into some bumpers and realized right away that I had to use 25s and smaller.

A year or so ago, I made one these for Ironwill and myself. It's just a 2" piece of 2" pipe, I cut the end off of a chain link and welded that to the pipe.

Looks great. PMing my address, kidding.