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    Companies still amino spiking?

    I know this was a big fiasco a couple years ago and companies faced tons of lawsuits because of being outed for their spiking. I was in Walmart and saw some of the culprits still on shelves (6 star and phase 8).

    Question is, did these companies change their protein due to the lawsuits or is the same formula still being sold?

    Thanks in advance!
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    They changed their proteins but I wouldn't buy their garbage either way.
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    Like OT said, wouldn't trust those companies. Plenty of other brands out there that haven't had lawsuits that don't meet label claims(source: former prep coach I worked with, one of his clients had the expendable income to test a bunch of brands to see what they can/can't trust).
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    Like mentioned there is many other good brands, there is no reason to support a company who has scammed users in past. It's a damn shame they are as big as they are and still have such a hug fan base. But fancy labels big claims and uneducated buyers all contribute to it unfortunately.
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    If they are still out then they changed to meet compliance. However, with so many good brands out right now. Iforce, PES, Gaspari, etc. There really isn't a reason to continue on with poor reputations.
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    Originally Posted by NurseGray View Post
    If they are still out then they changed to meet compliance. However, with so many good brands out right now. Iforce, PES, Gaspari, etc. There really isn't a reason to continue on with poor reputations.
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    OP I would surely hope after a huge lawsuit they would clean up their act. But as others mentioned with so many other options out there why even take that chance. I have been sticking with CL and PES and see no reason to deviate any time soon.
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    Originally Posted by NurseGray View Post
    If they are still out then they changed to meet compliance. However, with so many good brands out right now. Iforce, PES, Gaspari, etc. There really isn't a reason to continue on with poor reputations.
    The ones that were caught and sued, likely. Many others that don't though.
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    I remember a few years ago a forum member had a bunch of people send him samples of different brands of protein and he ran tests on them in his lab. He compared claims to actual protein amounts. I remember Optimum Gold standard came in at 21g per scoop with a claim of 24g. One of the worst ones was 12g with a claim of 30g, I think that one was the Six Star.
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    Originally Posted by bsilvey View Post
    I remember a few years ago a forum member had a bunch of people send him samples of different brands of protein and he ran tests on them in his lab. He compared claims to actual protein amounts. I remember Optimum Gold standard came in at 21g per scoop with a claim of 24g. One of the worst ones was 12g with a claim of 30g, I think that one was the Six Star.
    Happen to have the thread link for that? From what I've seen, ON has met claims on every 3rd party test released over the years.
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    Originally Posted by Misctake7 View Post
    Happen to have the thread link for that? From what I've seen, ON has met claims on every 3rd party test released over the years.
    I'll see if I can find it in search, but I'm not even sure what to search for, don't remember the thread title.
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    Here are the results:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...WBE/edit#gid=0

    It's from reddit, but here is the original bb.com forum for it:

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    Originally Posted by bsilvey View Post
    I'll see if I can find it in search, but I'm not even sure what to search for, don't remember the thread title.
    The search on here is quite broken, so without the thread title, might not have any luck finding it. I've never seen them come short so that's why I was curious. I wouldn't expect them to ever fall short being under Glanbia.
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    It was Body fortress and Gaspari that were the concerning ones. Wouldn't expect that from Gaspari, but I remember that stuff that was sampled hurt my stomach so bad every time I took it. WHen I first started taking whey, I used to always buy Body Fortress because it was cheap and sold at Walmart. It is really pathetic what companies will do to make a buck. I'm over buying anything other than ON Gold
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    I'd suggest sticking to reputable brands like your Dymatize, ON's, Cellucor, ISOPure...you get what you pay for and if the price is too good to be true, it probably is. There's a website with verifiable tested proteins also.
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    A lot of companies still spike
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    I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate...

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    Do you guys feel the companies were at fault or were the manufactures at fault? All the third party testing nowadays leads me to believe one party was more guilty than the other.
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    Originally Posted by ILPump View Post
    Do you guys feel the companies were at fault or were the manufactures at fault? All the third party testing nowadays leads me to believe one party was more guilty than the other.
    It was pretty standard practice among many companies in the past. I think most knew that adding free form aminos would erroneously increase the protein numbers
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    Originally Posted by powercage View Post
    It was pretty standard practice among many companies in the past. I think most knew that adding free form aminos would erroneously increase the protein numbers
    Some blatantly say so on the label "added BCAAs" or "with glutamine".
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    Originally Posted by bsilvey View Post
    It was Body fortress and Gaspari that were the concerning ones. Wouldn't expect that from Gaspari, but I remember that stuff that was sampled hurt my stomach so bad every time I took it. WHen I first started taking whey, I used to always buy Body Fortress because it was cheap and sold at Walmart. It is really pathetic what companies will do to make a buck. I'm over buying anything other than ON Gold
    Can a Gaspari Rep chime in here. Was this addressed? Reformulated to meet what the label claims?

    I have the Precision Protein in vanilla ice cream that I just craked and I am really liking it. If the label is accurate it say's right on it No Spiking 100% Guaranteed. Profile looks good too. Are we good? Same for the Myofusion?

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    Originally Posted by rjoylo2008 View Post
    Can a Gaspari Rep chime in here. Was this addressed? Reformulated to meet what the label claims?

    I have the Precision Protein in vanilla ice cream that I just craked and I am really liking it. If the label is accurate it say's right on it No Spiking 100% Guaranteed. Profile looks good too. Are we good? Same for the Myofusion?

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    Your Gaspari products are safe and good to go! That Precision Protien is delicious
    Thanks Country Mike.

    You're right it is delicious. Honestly one of the smoothest I've had. Virtually zero aftertaste.
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    Originally Posted by rjoylo2008 View Post
    Can a Gaspari Rep chime in here. Was this addressed? Reformulated to meet what the label claims?

    I have the Precision Protein in vanilla ice cream that I just craked and I am really liking it. If the label is accurate it say's right on it No Spiking 100% Guaranteed. Profile looks good too. Are we good? Same for the Myofusion?

    Thanks in advance Reps.
    Originally Posted by COUNTRYMIKE View Post
    Your Gaspari products are safe and good to go! That Precision Protien is delicious
    As Mike said, Gaspari protein is 100% good to go. We had issues in the past due to an original formulator who is now long gone. Thanks for the kind words, glad you're a fan!
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    You are absolutely good to go with the new Gaspari Precision Protein. Enjoy it and sleep well knowing it DEFINITELY meets label claims and everything it says on the bottle ... is exactly what your getting. Thanks for supporting us man!






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    Protein spiking is one thing, but some manufacturers are still spiking everything else as well. Dem rice flour gainz.

    Originally Posted by ILPump View Post
    Do you guys feel the companies were at fault or were the manufactures at fault? All the third party testing nowadays leads me to believe one party was more guilty than the other.
    If you're not testing your protein after manufacturing it's of no fault but your own as a company.
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    Originally Posted by COUNTRYMIKE View Post
    That Precision Protien is delicious
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    Originally Posted by AMeyer9 View Post
    Protein spiking is one thing, but some manufacturers are still spiking everything else as well. Dem rice flour gainz.



    If you're not testing your protein after manufacturing it's of no fault but your own as a company.
    I think you missed the point
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    I think you missed the point
    I don't think you even understand the point.
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