Republican logic

[JB05]

If you're poor and pay no taxes, you're a moocher

�There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what � who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims. � These are people who pay no income tax. � and so my job is not to worry about those people. I�ll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.�

If you're rich and pay no taxes, you're a genius

Donald Trump's decision to take a $916 million loss on his 1995 income tax return showed his business acumen and "genius" at figuring out how to minimize his tax bill, two of the Republican presidential candidate's advisers said on Sunday.

In other words, it makes no difference if people pay taxes are not.

Republicans believe that poor people = bad, and rich people = good.

This is one of their unconscious biases, expressed in many different ways by many different Republicans over many years.

[djfuzzy]

I'm not a republican by any means, but poor people are gross, everybody knows that.

Also, you're fat (srs)

[ThePoz]

1995 is just one year though. IDK why everyone is assuming he loses money every year. Actually nvm...I know why.

[Bushmaster]

So what you're saying then is Dems really, really, really, really care about and look after poor people and Republicans don't? Well shiit, that's decent of them... I bet if they promised to wrap minorities up in that same protective blanket that they'd be guaranteed all their votes!

[gixxer0.6g]

Not even worth arguing with your retarded post because the answer is so obvious. Typical lib. 1 star thread. Would ignore again. I'll just leave this here but most likely you won't be able to understand. These are just federal income taxes. Does not include all the taxes that come with running a business and paying employees.

[JB05]

I'm not a republican by any means, but poor people are gross, everybody knows that.

Also, you're fat (srs)

and here come the attacks, because conservatives lack the mental energy to look at their own unconscious biases.

Perhaps this is why low IQs, bigotry and racism are so common on the right?

[RoboBob]

What exactly are poor people creating?

The poor and rich (your examples, not mine) both use legal means to either receive tax credits (free money to the poor) or deductions/write offs to lower their tax liability (every single person with income, not just the rich).

Please show us more examples of how you don't understand anything.

[JB05]

Not even worth defending your retarded post because the answer is so obvious. Typical lib. 1 star thread. Would ignore again.

Another right-winger without the intelligence to look at their own unconscious biases. It's sad really.

[JB05]

The poor and rich (your examples, not mine) both use legal means to either receive tax credits (free money to the poor) or deductions/write offs to lower their tax liability (every single person with income, not just the rich).

Right

But according to Republican logic, it's bad when poor people do it, but "genius" when rich people do it. Why is that?

[dhawkeye1980]

and here come the attacks, because conservatives lack the mental energy to look at their own unconscious biases.

Perhaps this is why low IQs, bigotry and racism are so common on the right?

How is that even remotely similar, brb someone doing their hardest to keep their own money using existing tax laws signed into law by a CLINTON = leaches who are sucking us into another recession

Good analogy

[PTzFree]

and here come the attacks, because conservatives lack the mental energy to look at their own unconscious biases.

Perhaps this is why low IQs, bigotry and racism are so common on the right?

No, dude, it's because you literally spelled out the differentiation in your post and you still don't get it... so why should anyone bother explaining it to you?

One person has a job, creates other jobs, and found an accounting loophole - good for him. Let's figure out why that loophole exists and determine whether it needs to be closed instead of using it as a typical leftist strawman argument for defending people who don't have jobs and haven't paid in a cent toward the income tax bonus they're going to get this year. I know people that got over $10K of taxpayer money back after not working all year and putting damn little effort into finding work. That's not genius or a loophole, that is a gross perversion of benevolence. How is that anything but mooching?

[JB05]

How is that even remotely similar, brb someone doing their hardest to keep their own money using existing tax laws signed into law by a CLINTON = leaches who are sucking us into another recession

Good analogy

Doubling down, huh?

So when the poor pay no taxes, they're "leeches" sucking us into another recession

But when the rich pay no taxes, they're "doing their hardest to keep their own money

You don't care about the taxes at all, do you? You just hate the poor. Why is that?

[Stizzel]

If you're poor and pay no taxes, you're a moocher



If you're rich and pay no taxes, you're a genius



In other words, it makes no difference if people pay taxes are not.

Republicans believe that poor people = bad, and rich people = good.

This is one of their unconscious biases, expressed in many different ways by many different Republicans over many years.

Thats not Republican logic, thats just logic

[JB05]

No, dude, it's because you literally spelled out the differentiation in your post and you still don't get it... so why should anyone bother explaining it to you?

One person has a job, creates other jobs, and found an accounting loophole - good for him. Let's figure out why that loophole exists and determine whether it needs to be closed

It exists because the Real Estate lobby is very powerful and got a favorable loss carryover provision written into the tax code? The loophole isn't going anywhere, the lobbyists will make sure of that.

instead of using it as a typical leftist strawman argument for defending people who don't have jobs and haven't paid in a cent toward the income tax bonus they're going to get this year. I know people that got over $10K of taxpayer money back after not working all year and putting damn little effort into finding work. That's not genius or a loophole, that is a gross perversion of benevolence.

I'm not even talking about people receiving transfer payments from the government, I'm just talking about taxes

Poor and pay no taxes = Bad

Rich and pay no taxes = Good

Why?

[JB05]

Thats not Republican logic, thats just logic

Thanks buddy

Whenever someone calls me out for saying that conservatives hate the poor, I'm gonna show them this thread

While we're at it, are there any other powerless groups you'd like to admit your hate for? Minorities? The elderly? People in wheelchairs?

[waias15]

Doubling down, huh?

So when the poor pay no taxes, they're "leeches" sucking us into another recession

But when the rich pay no taxes, they're "doing their hardest to keep their own money

You don't care about the taxes at all, do you? You just hate the poor. Why is that?

if you're too stupid to understand the difference, there is no point in arguing with you

but yes, if someone is able-bodied, but finds a way to leech off of the system without providing anything in return, then yes they should be hated

[TaeBoNinja]

Trump has employed 10k+, what's Hillary's excuse?

[waias15]

Thanks buddy

Whenever someone calls me out for saying that conservatives hate the poor, I'm gonna show them this thread

While we're at it, are there any other powerless groups you'd like to admit your hate for? Minorities? The elderly? People in wheelchairs?

WOW, claiming that minorities are powerless.... how bigoted of you!!!

[PTzFree]

It exists because the Real Estate lobby is very powerful and got a favorable loss carryover provision written into the tax code? The loophole isn't going anywhere, the lobbyists will make sure of that.



I'm not even talking about people receiving transfer payments from the government, I'm just talking about taxes

Poor and pay no taxes = Bad

Rich and pay no taxes = Good

Why?

Again you give the answer and still don't get it.

They aren't "transfer payments" - they are someone else's paycheck! It's bad because they have contributed nothing and gotten rewarded for it. But it's just easier for lefties to label chit when they don't comprehend it. Couldn't be that we are frustrated our money is going to something for nothing - no it's hate. How the fuk does your brain work? Why do libs never want to give any credence to a complaint?

[gixxer0.6g]

Another right-winger without the intelligence to look at their own unconscious biases. It's sad really.

This has to be a troll thread. Nobody is this dumb. Including a pile of libs. Here's another fun chart for you little mind to look at. I'm sure you don't have a calculator so I'll add it up for you. It shows that more than 57% of entire budget is spent on social programs. 3.2 times more than our military. And you know who the majority of the people who are on the receiving end of those social programs? The poor. So please, tell my how the wealthy are the ones draining our system dry.

[jamesovercome]

Doubling down, huh?

So when the poor pay no taxes, they're "leeches" sucking us into another recession

But when the rich pay no taxes, they're "doing their hardest to keep their own money

You don't care about the taxes at all, do you? You just hate the poor. Why is that?

The rich pay taxes. You do realize that there's more than just federal tax right? Self-employment tax, employee tax, and excise tax, property tax etc. Etc. Businesses can write off a loss so they don't pay taxes on gains and losses.

The poor pay taxes too, at least sales tax

[ThePoz]

Poor people need to start paying their fair share

The rich pay taxes. You do realize that there's more than just federal tax right? Self-employment tax, employee tax, and excise tax, property tax etc. Etc. Businesses can write off a loss so they don't pay taxes on gains and losses.

The poor pay taxes too, at least sales tax

Are people on Welfare subject to sales tax? I'm not familiar how it works.

Taxation

It is illegal for anyone to charge sales tax, surcharges or card processing fees from an EBT SNAP account, according to federal law and USDA SNAP Guidelines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electr...nefit_transfer

[JB05]

Again you give the answer and still don't get it.

They aren't "transfer payments" - they are someone else's paycheck! It's bad because they have contributed nothing and gotten rewarded for it. But it's just easier for lefties to label chit when they don't comprehend it. Couldn't be that we are frustrated our money is going to something for nothing - no it's hate. How the fuk does your brain work? Why do libs never want to give any credence to a complaint?

Uh, that's the economic definition of a transfer payment. That's what they're called, when government takes money from one person to pay another. This is why I hate talking to uneducated people like you.

Transfer payments also aren't what we're talking about here, we're talking about tax payments. Please stay on topic.

This has to be a troll thread. Nobody is this dumb. Including a pile of libs. Here's another fun chart for you little mind to look at. I'm sure you don't have a calculator so I'll add it up for you. It shows that more than 57% of entire budget is spent on social programs. 3.2 times more than our military. And you know who the majority of the people who are on the receiving end of those social programs? The poor. So please, tell my how the wealthy are the ones draining our system dry.

This thread is about tax liability, not welfare. Please stay on topic.

[JB05]

Poor people need to start paying their fair share

But not rich people, right?

It's A-OK for Apple or Trump to pay $0.00, but we NEED that 15% income tax from the janitor making $15,000/year

[hendrixfreak70]

Real Republicans want there to be NO federal income taxes.

[JB05]

Real Republicans want there to be NO federal income taxes.

Agreed, but it would never happen. Government spending would have to be rolled back so much.

When the Republicans came to power in 2010, Boehner had a plan to balance the budget by rolling spending back to 2008 levels. They couldn't even make THAT happen.

[RoboBob]

But not rich people, right?

It's A-OK for Apple or Trump to pay $0.00, but we NEED that 15% income tax from the janitor making $15,000/year

You're incredibly dishonest, and playing semantics in order to spin something completely logical into class warfare. It's disgusting.

You're taking a large corporations effective federal income tax rate and comparing it to the stated federal income tax rate for a janitor. Once that janitor files, after deductions and credits, what do you think their effective federal income tax rate is? The dependent credit, medical, standard or itemized deductions, earned income tax credit, mortgage insurance, etc... , will bring them down to a negative tax bracket. They will get every penny they paid back, plus a few thousand as a bonus.

[LFAesthetics]

Flat tax and be done with it.

[NKWulf]

People in wheelchairs?

what about us in wheelchairs...got a problem?

[moksha16]

Trump has employed 10k+, what's Hillary's excuse?

He's also destroyed numerous businesses because he keeps going bankrupt and not paying his investors, contractors, and creditors.