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    Unhappy Ideal weight for 5'4 16 year old male?

    Hey there, I'm recovering from starving myself for three months... I went from 140 to 111 lbs in such a short span. It wasn't a pleasant experience... I was cold and angered all the time. But now I've been upping my calories and going to the gym 5 days a week. I run a mile before each workout at a 8 mph pace. I also tend to walk a lot. (Walk half a mile to school, walk to gym and back home... An extra 2-3 miles)

    But ever since I've been eating more, I've had this strange relationship with fullness. I feel like eating, but at the same time I don't. I drink water, but the urge to eat becomes stronger!
    I'm afraid of becoming fat.

    So please, give me an answer. The pressure of calories and gaining fat consuming.
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    According to BMI, 140 pounds is slightly overweight and around 110-130 pounds is normal for your height. So roughly speaking, you're all good
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    Originally Posted by commetsftw0 View Post
    Hey there, I'm recovering from starving myself for three months... I went from 140 to 111 lbs in such a short span. It wasn't a pleasant experience... I was cold and angered all the time. But now I've been upping my calories and going to the gym 5 days a week. I run a mile before each workout at a 8 mph pace. I also tend to walk a lot. (Walk half a mile to school, walk to gym and back home... An extra 2-3 miles)

    But ever since I've been eating more, I've had this strange relationship with fullness. I feel like eating, but at the same time I don't. I drink water, but the urge to eat becomes stronger!
    I'm afraid of becoming fat.

    So please, give me an answer. The pressure of calories and gaining fat consuming.
    1)Plug your stats into a TDEE calculator
    2)Take the number you get and add 200-300 calories
    3)Eat 1g protein/lb of body weight
    4)Profit$$$$
    I get bigger when I cut.
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    Originally Posted by SammyB33 View Post
    According to BMI, 140 pounds is slightly overweight and around 110-130 pounds is normal for your height. So roughly speaking, you're all good
    yeah, but I've been thinking of gaining some muscle. Because I still have those days where I feel like not eating, yet, I don't like the feeling of fullness. How do I do this?
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    I'm a 5'4 almost 16 year old male. I have a BMI of about 20 which is around the perfect mark of BMI. I am 116lbs. I'd say 120 is ideal though.
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    I am 15 too, not the fittest i could be, 5'4 at 135lbs, a bit skinny fat.

    But i can tell you that i have friends at same height sitting at 120 pounds and they are skinny little dudes..
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    If you don't lift: 100-130 lbs
    If you lift: 130-160 lbs
    If you're a bodybuilder: 170-220 lbs (eg. Most of us on here)
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    Originally Posted by PendlayRow8500 View Post
    If you don't lift: 100-130 lbs
    If you lift: 130-160 lbs
    If you're a bodybuilder: 170-220 lbs (eg. Most of us on here)
    Unbanned? welcome back brah
    I get bigger when I cut.
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    Originally Posted by PendlayRow8500 View Post
    If you don't lift: 100-130 lbs
    If you lift: 130-160 lbs
    If you're a bodybuilder: 170-220 lbs (eg. Most of us on here)
    Alright. I'm just concerned because of those months of deprivation. I was eating less than 500 calories a day. Not only that, but I can't bring myself to eat without feeling the need to not eat enough. If I really wanted to, I'd eat those same amount again... But I KNOW it would not be good to lose more weight.
    I count every morsel I put into my mouth and feel guilt after a meal. I can't digest food like I use to, my hair falls out more often, and I'm obsessed with fasting for 24 hours sometimes. It's so hard and frustrating. It's like my mind got use to this "Survival" instinct. I get this wild feeling every now and then...
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    Originally Posted by commetsftw0 View Post
    Alright. I'm just concerned because of those months of deprivation. I was eating less than 500 calories a day. Not only that, but I can't bring myself to eat without feeling the need to not eat enough. If I really wanted to, I'd eat those same amount again... But I KNOW it would not be good to lose more weight.
    I count every morsel I put into my mouth and feel guilt after a meal. I can't digest food like I use to, my hair falls out more often, and I'm obsessed with fasting for 24 hours sometimes. It's so hard and frustrating. It's like my mind got use to this "Survival" instinct. I get this wild feeling every now and then...
    Think about it this way:

    You could:

    - Keep fasting and overeating in cycles and stay a small 120 lb skinny fat kid forever.
    OR

    - Just eat decently in a slight surplus for years, put on 50 lbs naturally and be jacked at 170. You could then cut and be ripped at 155 if you wanted to as well.
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    Originally Posted by PendlayRow8500 View Post
    Think about it this way:

    You could:

    - Keep fasting and overeating in cycles and stay a small 120 lb skinny fat kid forever.
    OR

    - Just eat decently in a slight surplus for years, put on 50 lbs naturally and be jacked at 170. You could then cut and be ripped at 155 if you wanted to as well.
    Thanks. Btw, do you think the little calories I'm eating is causing this hairloss? The upping of my calories in general is just so recent. I've been adding a vitimain supplement too.

    Also, I wouldn't consider myself as skinny-fat. Just very very lean.
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    Originally Posted by commetsftw0 View Post
    Thanks. Btw, do you think the little calories I'm eating is causing this hairloss? The upping of my calories in general is just so recent. I've been adding a vitimain supplement too.

    Also, I wouldn't consider myself as skinny-fat. Just very very lean.
    Yes I myself was severely underweight at 80 !! Pounds for 6 months straight and my hair became brittle due to malnutrition and only 900 calories a day.

    If your lean you will build more muscle and gain less fat in the same surplus as a skinny fat person would. So I'd add 250 calories a week for 3 weeks then reassess.

    Feel free to PM me if you need to discuss issues.

    You also need a Hard Progrssive weight training programs that stresses your whole body. Look at Jason Blahas icf 5x5 program for a good one.

    At your weight you could gain 25-30 lbs of pure muscle in a year since you weigh so little. Even if you gain 20 lbs of fat along with that muscle you'll look so much better because fat stretches across the muscle making the fat layer thinner.
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    I did the same when I was 15. I was an idiot back then. 130-140lbs should be a good range to aim for. You're still growing so don't be afraid to eat a lot.
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    I need to get this out of my breath. I've been suffering from disordered eating. I'm still trying to recover from that state of mind. I'm motivated to gain muscle, but scared to gain fat. I know what you said and stuff, but you see... I was overweight as a younger child. But then once my father went to jail at age 8, I became very depressed and alone. My mother was busy with work, and I had two new born siblings to take care of. It was so much for me, that I simply began eating less. My weight plummeted from 175 (at 4'11) to 155 lbs in the span of only a year. Since then I was losing more weight and becoming more active. My dad just came out last year and I've maintained 140 lbs for quite a while until the Spring came and I felt that I needed to lose more weight.

    So I decided to cut drastically. I began eating two boiled eggs a day with a slice of bread while drinking one cup of ALMOND MILK. That was it. I got addicted. Even when my doctor told me to stop losing weight, I still had the urge to.

    Thankfully, I caught myself from losing more weight for the past month. But sometimes there's something ingrained my subconscious that tells me to "keep losing weight". And I just want to get rid of these poisonous thoughts! I hate it! Kids that I know are always impressed at how I lost weight and how I "Look so muscular and lean". *Sigh* If they only knew the horrible truth. Sorry. I just want to be happy and not obsess over food.

    I want to not stress my parents or myself out with this distorted view on food.
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    I'd say, as much as you want with as little fat as possible. If you wanna look like a physique model or something at your height I'd guess that about 145-150lbs at 10 - 12% bf would get you there. Bodybuilder physique would probably be around 170-180lbs at 6-8% bf.
    And maybe you should try to replace the desire to lose weight with the desire to gain muscle, you know instead of thinking I need to get smaller think, I need my pecs to pop out more, I need my biceps to be bigger, I need bigger shoulders etc
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    Originally Posted by commetsftw0 View Post
    I need to get this out of my breath. I've been suffering from disordered eating. I'm still trying to recover from that state of mind. I'm motivated to gain muscle, but scared to gain fat. I know what you said and stuff, but you see... I was overweight as a younger child. But then once my father went to jail at age 8, I became very depressed and alone. My mother was busy with work, and I had two new born siblings to take care of. It was so much for me, that I simply began eating less. My weight plummeted from 175 (at 4'11) to 155 lbs in the span of only a year. Since then I was losing more weight and becoming more active. My dad just came out last year and I've maintained 140 lbs for quite a while until the Spring came and I felt that I needed to lose more weight.

    So I decided to cut drastically. I began eating two boiled eggs a day with a slice of bread while drinking one cup of ALMOND MILK. That was it. I got addicted. Even when my doctor told me to stop losing weight, I still had the urge to.

    Thankfully, I caught myself from losing more weight for the past month. But sometimes there's something ingrained my subconscious that tells me to "keep losing weight". And I just want to get rid of these poisonous thoughts! I hate it! Kids that I know are always impressed at how I lost weight and how I "Look so muscular and lean". *Sigh* If they only knew the horrible truth. Sorry. I just want to be happy and not obsess over food.

    I want to not stress my parents or myself out with this distorted view on food.
    Sounds like you're really worried about this, boy. Just make a HUGE effort to eat a 500 calorie surplus per day and as hard as it may be but to block out those negative thoughts of "keep losing weight".

    ATM, you're perfectly healthy, lad so there's no need to worry but if you want to get bigger (muscle wise) you've just got to eat and lift more.

    HOWEVER, if you continue to feel this way and it's making you depressed or uneasy try telling your parents. 99% of the time parents do try help out
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    Im 5 4 5 5 an my weight goes up between 154 to 160 an im pretty jacked i lift atleast 4 days a week eat good for 12hrs fast for 16
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