Damn 30yr old women admit they've become invisible

[mcdojo]

Was reading that article of Maggie gyllenhall where at 37 she was too old to be casted as a 55 yr olds love interest.

Article was on Jezebel a fking feminist site normally raging at women being catcalled etc.

Top comments so other women are agreeing

"Honestly, I'm 33 and I would say I look 33, not much younger or older but I'm invisible now. Which is nice in the sense that I don't get harassed much anymore but it also makes me feel like I'm not desirable anymore."

"I�m a 38 year old grad student and teaching assistant. It has become really obvious to me that I am virtually invisible."

Hollywood cast females 30yrs younger then the male, and the sad part is it doesn't even look out of place. Here are some graphs.

[CatabolicBrah]

Ayy lmao.

[pollywogpriest]

as a soon to be 28 year old, I see tons of incredibly fertile and youthful 28 year olds. Do they turn into infertile ghouls over night on their 30th birthday? (srs)

sister is 29 and looks 22.
ex is 27 and looks 20.

[PrehistoricUFO]

No, no, no.

What they mean when they say this is "I feel invisible because the MEN I DESIRE (Chad/CEOs/Model-tier males) don't seem attracted to me because they have their pick of younger women."

In reality, there are still throngs of men who would lavish them with attention and loyalty, the difference is the women just don't find them attractive and therefore they're irrelevant.

So really it is an issue of entitlement and not getting what they want for ONCE in their lives.

If they truly wanted, they could be engaged within a year if they came back down to earth.

[AlphaBrahCom]

must be hard to always be in the shadows of the goat jake gyllenhaal

[.aeterna]

as a soon to be 28 year old, I see tons of incredibly fertile and youthful 28 year olds. Do they turn into infertile ghouls over night on their 30th birthday? (srs)











sister is 29

i like where dis is going

[FannySkelper]

Women peak at 18 its just biology, no need for them to take it personally

[SadBoys]

Just LOL at you if you weren't born with a penis

[EoR]

Women complaining like this usually are the ones who were happy to receive special treatment because of their youth and beauty, fine to scoff and act like a princess. Now that father time has entered the room, they have to be humble and less demanding, they want to outlash @ this sort of preferential treatment, ROFL. Welcome to the jungle, you took the good now you take the bad. The movie industry has always been shallow and corrupt, and unless you're among the few timeless female actresses you better have saved all that money.

[BetaAsPhuck]

sister is 29 and looks 22.
ex is 27 and looks 20.

[Bcider]

I love watching milfs so I don't know what they are talking about.

[pogioli4]

as a soon to be 28 year old, I see tons of incredibly fertile and youthful 28 year olds. Do they turn into infertile ghouls over night on their 30th birthday? (srs)

sister is 29 and looks 22.
ex is 27 and looks 20.

pics of sister?

[BetaAsPhuck]

There was a book written about this by a 40 year old woman, who spoke about the reason why a lot of women are single after 35-40 is largely their own fault and feminine culture. In a nutshell; it's due to pickiness, narcissism, and wanting real life to be like Hollywood films:





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0wxSmrs5fs

I can imagine all the bitter and rejected miscers feeling emotional vindication at the thought of women experiencing loneliness and insecurity. (As evidenced by the posts already ITT.)

No, no, no.

What they mean when they say this is "I feel invisible because the MEN I DESIRE (Chad/CEOs/Model-tier males) don't seem attracted to me because they have their pick of younger women."

No, no, no.

What they mean when they say this is "I feel invisible because the MEN I DESIRE (Chad/CEOs/Model-tier males) don't seem attracted to me because they have their pick of younger women."

In reality, there are still throngs of men who would lavish them with attention and loyalty, the difference is the women just don't find them attractive and therefore they're irrelevant.

So really it is an issue of entitlement and not getting what they want for ONCE in their lives.

If they truly wanted, they could be engaged within a year if they came back down to earth.

That's exactly what Lori Gottlieb argues in her book.

[bobbydigitaloa]

Just LOL at you if you weren't born with a penis

Brb meanwhile China is lifting their one child law because there are too many fukin men. I'd love it if the the world was 2/3 women...more for us.

[FPS75]

Faurk! Keira Knightly was 23 in Pirates....did not know

[wake_me]

I remember there was a pretty good thread here about some chick that went to Japan and complained about the same thing. That she was invisible to men there, that they couldn't handle a strong independent white woman like her etc. LOL

EDIT:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=164820101

“We usually have a tough time keeping female teachers here,” my boss informed me on my first day of work as an English teacher in Tokyo. “They usually don’t last more than six months.” I looked up from studying the roster list of teachers (30 — all male), in surprise.

“You mean at this school?”

“No, I mean … in Japan.” He shrugged. “Tokyo’s a tough city to be single … If you’re, you know … a western woman.”

I stole a quick glance at the photos that were mounted on the wall behind him. Four middle-aged White Dudes. All of them were bearded and balding. All of them resembled the aging, stringy-haired members of the band Metallica. And all of them were pressed up against the model-thin bodies of a heavily made-up Japanese Beauty Queen.

I don’t think I’ll have a problem, I thought.



It wasn’t that I was beauty queen gorgeous. Far from it. Slim, medium-height, with hazel eyes and freckles, I was at best ‘cute’ and at worst, average. But I had something that the competition didn’t: long, naturally curly, blond hair. Furthermore, I was bilingual, well-traveled and college-educated.

But as I realized a few weeks into my stay in Japan, I was also mysteriously, frustratingly invisible.

Cute baristas at Starbucks wouldn’t look at me, business men on bicycles ran over me and college students hurriedly backed away from me with mumbled apologies whenever I tried to strike up a conversation about the weather or ask for directions. They wouldn’t even give me the time of day. Literally.

“You’ve got to be assertive,” my Japanese girlfriends advised. “Japanese guys are shy so you have to make the first move.” So I smiled invitingly at men in bars and on busses. I asked for help reading restaurant menus and subway signs.

“Do you have any book / drink reccomendatioins?” was my usual line as I stood near them in bookstores or sat next to them on barstools. But the ‘come hither’ stare or conversation starter doesn’t work if the other person refuses to look at you. If they met my gaze at me at all, it was just to shoot me this panicked look, like I’d just asked them to father my unborn children. My boss had been right. It was hard to be a single, western woman in Japan. But why?

I turned to the Internet for advice and was surprised to learn that the Dateless Western Woman was a familiar character in the expat world, at least judging from the score of postings on expat forums by lonely, single females.

But as wide-spread as the problem seemed to be, it was one that many women avoided talking about. Understandably it was a tough subject to discuss without grossly overgeneralizing fifty percent of a country’s population or worse, sounding like a racist or a man-hating, snob.

The pervading theory though, among expats and Japanese alike, was that Japanese men were in fact attracted to western women but were just too intimidated to do anything about it. Western women in Asia were like the Jennifer Anistons of the expat world. Strong, independent, assertive and outspoken, they were interesting to admire from afar, but no man would ever dream of striking up a conversation with one. Western women were so different, so foreign, they were virtually un-datable.

Not true for their Y-chromosome-carrying expat buddies though. While the female expats spent Saturday nights alone, crying into their Ramen bowls, their male counterparts drank freely from the dating pool like they owned it. Which in a way, they did.

If you’ve ever visited Asia, you’ve likely seen the pale, rail-thin, greasy-haired white boy walking hand-in hand with a perfectly made-up, mini-skirt wearing Asian chick. This would never happen anywhere else in the world. Because everywhere else, Barbie ends up with Ken, not his underemployed, socially-awkward, samurai-sword-collecting neighbor, Kevin. But in Asia, dating rules defy all logic or evolutionary law. In Asia, the nerd is king.

Not that I wished it otherwise. For the most part, I was happy for them. These men wouldn’t have been able to score a date at home if they’d been a calender but in Asia they’d nabbed the prom queen. They were true success stories. Who could blame them for taking advantage of a magical loophole that allowed them to date women out of their league? If such a nirvana existed for Western woman, I’m sure I’d have moved there too.

But although the occasional coupling sparked the “Is she really going out with him?” question, it was easy to understand why Japanese woman saw Western men — even the nerdy ones — as attractive dating prospects. They were straight-forward and open-minded, for one thing. And through their Western, wire-rimmed eyes, they viewed relationships as an equal partnership, which was something the more traditional, close-minded of Japanese men still struggled to do. I figured that so long as they treated their girlfriends well and both partners were happy with the arrangement, what did it matter if their peculiar quirks and bizarre comments got lost in translation a little? Even the socially awkward deserved to love and be loved.

But it was hard not to feel jealous. Especially as I spent weekend after weekend, bravely facing the club’s dance floor alone while my dorky expat brothers expertly flirted for phone numbers and first dates. They were like kids in a candy store. The Japanese women were gourmet truffles, while the western women were the three-year-old tootsie rolls melted to the bottom of the barrel. The Japanese men might have been frightened of us but the other expat men just flat-out ignored us.

But as I often reminded myself, I hadn’t come to Asia for a boyfriend. I’d come because I wanted to master Japanese and explore a culture drastically different from my own. But I just hadn’t expected that moving my life to Japan would mean leaving my love life at home. As much as I’d enjoyed my life in Tokyo, it just didn’t seem like a fair trade.

Not that the female dating situation in Japan wasn’t without the occasional success story. I knew of a few women who’d come to Japan and left with husbands or fianc�es in tow. But they were the minority. Most western women came to Japan single and stayed that way.

I was walking from work one Friday evening when it dawned on me that I’d been in Japan for nine months. I inwardly congratulated myself for having beat the odds. I’d proven my boss wrong. But as I trudged home to face another evening of reruns of The Office and left-over sushi from 7-11, I wondered at what cost. Most days I felt unattractive, unwanted and worst of all, unfemale. When not even a short skirt or slinky top attracted more than a passing glance and even construction workers, who could usually be counted on for a leer, regarded me with bored, blank expressions, I felt like a Martian. And very, very alone. Perhaps I’d been wrong not to leave when the last shipload of foreign women sailed away to brighter horizons and better dating odds.

Because the truth is that Tokyo’s a tough city to be single … if you’re, you know, a Western woman.

[EoR]

There was a book written about this by a 40 year old woman, who spoke about the reason why a lot of women are single after 35-40 is largely their own fault and feminine culture. In a nutshell; it's due to pickiness, narcissism, and wanting real life to be like Hollywood films:





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0wxSmrs5fs

I can imagine all the bitter and rejected miscers feeling emotional vindication at the thought of women experiencing loneliness and insecurity. (As evidenced by the posts already ITT.)



That's exactly what Lori Gottlieb argues in her book.

Relates back to my last post. They are all understanding and humble when it's too late, how about try having this sensible attitude WHILE you're in hot demand, then that would impress me. Also women past 30 are exponential less desirable for fertility and child birth reasons. Complication probabilities rise really high after 30ish. But yes, be noble and humble while you have power, otherwise you're in no position to demand any changes in attitudes. It's also worse for women who are not well educated, at least older women who are well educated and relativity successful will at least get some respect and attention from males.

Just to add Hollywood, social media, white knights are all big players in this attitude that a woman should get a 6ft5, 9"penis 10k/day CEO famous stud.

[scudda]

Brb meanwhile China is lifting their one child law because there are too many fukin men. I'd love it if the the world was 2/3 women...more for us.

Aren't you married?

[andyray]

women have the potential to look good well into their 30s and 40s if they look after themselves, look at some of the fitness models

problem is 99.99% of them don't and end up looking like dogchit

[bobbydigitaloa]

Aren't you married?

I'm still a dude...and I was referencing men in general.

[wake_me]

Brb meanwhile China is lifting their one child law because there are too many fukin men. I'd love it if the the world was 2/3 women...more for us.

Not sure how I feel about the prospect of the voting population being 2/3 women.

[MrFrumble]

No, no, no.

What they mean when they say this is "I feel invisible because the MEN I DESIRE (Chad/CEOs/Model-tier males) don't seem attracted to me because they have their pick of younger women."

In reality, there are still throngs of men who would lavish them with attention and loyalty, the difference is the women just don't find them attractive and therefore they're irrelevant.

So really it is an issue of entitlement and not getting what they want for ONCE in their lives.

If they truly wanted, they could be engaged within a year if they came back down to earth.

/thread

[BetaAsPhuck]

Relates back to my last post. They are all understanding and humble when it's too late, how about try having this sensible attitude WHILE you're in hot demand, then that would impress me.

Taking things for granted is part of the human condition. I can understand why so many are oblivious.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i28UEoLXVFQ

[TheBrentmeister]

It's because many of them fear aging gracefully. Rather than letting nature take it's natural direction, the process is altered with makeup and various other alterations that starts from a young teen. This is not the case for all women though. Where as with a man, having aged features adds to the masculinity.

Cliffs:
- It feels good to be a man

[CatabolicBrah]

I remember there was a pretty good thread here about some chick that went to Japan and complained about the same thing. That she was invisible to men there, that they couldn't handle a strong independent white woman like her etc. LOL

EDIT:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=164820101

�We usually have a tough time keeping female teachers here,� my boss informed me on my first day of work as an English teacher in Tokyo. �They usually don�t last more than six months.� I looked up from studying the roster list of teachers (30 � all male), in surprise.

�You mean at this school?�

�No, I mean � in Japan.� He shrugged. �Tokyo�s a tough city to be single � If you�re, you know � a western woman.�

I stole a quick glance at the photos that were mounted on the wall behind him. Four middle-aged White Dudes. All of them were bearded and balding. All of them resembled the aging, stringy-haired members of the band Metallica. And all of them were pressed up against the model-thin bodies of a heavily made-up Japanese Beauty Queen.

I don�t think I�ll have a problem, I thought.



It wasn�t that I was beauty queen gorgeous. Far from it. Slim, medium-height, with hazel eyes and freckles, I was at best �cute� and at worst, average. But I had something that the competition didn�t: long, naturally curly, blond hair. Furthermore, I was bilingual, well-traveled and college-educated.

But as I realized a few weeks into my stay in Japan, I was also mysteriously, frustratingly invisible.

Cute baristas at Starbucks wouldn�t look at me, business men on bicycles ran over me and college students hurriedly backed away from me with mumbled apologies whenever I tried to strike up a conversation about the weather or ask for directions. They wouldn�t even give me the time of day. Literally.

�You�ve got to be assertive,� my Japanese girlfriends advised. �Japanese guys are shy so you have to make the first move.� So I smiled invitingly at men in bars and on busses. I asked for help reading restaurant menus and subway signs.

�Do you have any book / drink reccomendatioins?� was my usual line as I stood near them in bookstores or sat next to them on barstools. But the �come hither� stare or conversation starter doesn�t work if the other person refuses to look at you. If they met my gaze at me at all, it was just to shoot me this panicked look, like I�d just asked them to father my unborn children. My boss had been right. It was hard to be a single, western woman in Japan. But why?

I turned to the Internet for advice and was surprised to learn that the Dateless Western Woman was a familiar character in the expat world, at least judging from the score of postings on expat forums by lonely, single females.

But as wide-spread as the problem seemed to be, it was one that many women avoided talking about. Understandably it was a tough subject to discuss without grossly overgeneralizing fifty percent of a country�s population or worse, sounding like a racist or a man-hating, snob.

The pervading theory though, among expats and Japanese alike, was that Japanese men were in fact attracted to western women but were just too intimidated to do anything about it. Western women in Asia were like the Jennifer Anistons of the expat world. Strong, independent, assertive and outspoken, they were interesting to admire from afar, but no man would ever dream of striking up a conversation with one. Western women were so different, so foreign, they were virtually un-datable.

Not true for their Y-chromosome-carrying expat buddies though. While the female expats spent Saturday nights alone, crying into their Ramen bowls, their male counterparts drank freely from the dating pool like they owned it. Which in a way, they did.

If you�ve ever visited Asia, you�ve likely seen the pale, rail-thin, greasy-haired white boy walking hand-in hand with a perfectly made-up, mini-skirt wearing Asian chick. This would never happen anywhere else in the world. Because everywhere else, Barbie ends up with Ken, not his underemployed, socially-awkward, samurai-sword-collecting neighbor, Kevin. But in Asia, dating rules defy all logic or evolutionary law. In Asia, the nerd is king.

Not that I wished it otherwise. For the most part, I was happy for them. These men wouldn�t have been able to score a date at home if they�d been a calender but in Asia they�d nabbed the prom queen. They were true success stories. Who could blame them for taking advantage of a magical loophole that allowed them to date women out of their league? If such a nirvana existed for Western woman, I�m sure I�d have moved there too.

But although the occasional coupling sparked the �Is she really going out with him?� question, it was easy to understand why Japanese woman saw Western men � even the nerdy ones � as attractive dating prospects. They were straight-forward and open-minded, for one thing. And through their Western, wire-rimmed eyes, they viewed relationships as an equal partnership, which was something the more traditional, close-minded of Japanese men still struggled to do. I figured that so long as they treated their girlfriends well and both partners were happy with the arrangement, what did it matter if their peculiar quirks and bizarre comments got lost in translation a little? Even the socially awkward deserved to love and be loved.

But it was hard not to feel jealous. Especially as I spent weekend after weekend, bravely facing the club�s dance floor alone while my dorky expat brothers expertly flirted for phone numbers and first dates. They were like kids in a candy store. The Japanese women were gourmet truffles, while the western women were the three-year-old tootsie rolls melted to the bottom of the barrel. The Japanese men might have been frightened of us but the other expat men just flat-out ignored us.

But as I often reminded myself, I hadn�t come to Asia for a boyfriend. I�d come because I wanted to master Japanese and explore a culture drastically different from my own. But I just hadn�t expected that moving my life to Japan would mean leaving my love life at home. As much as I�d enjoyed my life in Tokyo, it just didn�t seem like a fair trade.

Not that the female dating situation in Japan wasn�t without the occasional success story. I knew of a few women who�d come to Japan and left with husbands or fianc�es in tow. But they were the minority. Most western women came to Japan single and stayed that way.

I was walking from work one Friday evening when it dawned on me that I�d been in Japan for nine months. I inwardly congratulated myself for having beat the odds. I�d proven my boss wrong. But as I trudged home to face another evening of reruns of The Office and left-over sushi from 7-11, I wondered at what cost. Most days I felt unattractive, unwanted and worst of all, unfemale. When not even a short skirt or slinky top attracted more than a passing glance and even construction workers, who could usually be counted on for a leer, regarded me with bored, blank expressions, I felt like a Martian. And very, very alone. Perhaps I�d been wrong not to leave when the last shipload of foreign women sailed away to brighter horizons and better dating odds.

Because the truth is that Tokyo�s a tough city to be single � if you�re, you know, a Western woman.

Holy fuk I freakin read all that. Fml

[LurkoLantern]

Faurk! Keira Knightly was 23 in Pirates....did not know

[bobbydigitaloa]

Not sure how I feel about the prospect of the voting population being 2/3 women.

Meh, how about 60/40...

[wake_me]

Meh, how about 60/40...

As long as the new 50 Shades of Grey movie is released on election day.

[Hesher]

Not sure how I feel about the prospect of the voting population being 2/3 women.

Require them to parallel park before voting. Problem solved.

[ThatLankyGuy]

So they have to actually start earning things and go after what they want themselves? Welcome to the life 99% of men have always had, ladies.