why do people have kids?

[BustaCapp]

That's irrelevant. The point is that those who chose to have kids are as "self indulgent" as those who chose not to.

Bullchit.

Having kids = hard work.
Not having kids = easy life.

[hxa]

At 31 i see having kids very differently than i did in my 20s. To be honest, i can't wait to have kids.

[Mumra]

That's irrelevant. The point is that those who chose to have kids are as "self indulgent" as those who chose not to.

I think they're foolish and elitist. they look down on people without kids with contempt and envy. they always look at me and say, "you don't know the joy!". with their blood shot eyes, gray hair and strained finances.
I feel sorry for them, espicaly the married men with kids. they are literally at the mercy of their wives and to a lesser(but still enormous) degree kids. at any point she could decide she wanted a divorce. more than likely she'd get to keep the kids and as a result the house. god help him if she doesn't work and even if she does he'll still have to cut a massive check every week. he'll be living on a fraction of his income while she'll get to "maintain her lifestyle". granted in the US it varies state by state on divorce laws but I don't think there's even a single one that doesn't overwhelming side with the woman. even if she lies, cheats and steals from him. she's still getting the house and kids.
so have kids? not a chance in hell. no way I'm being on the hook for something I couldn't want not to happen more. get married and you might as well be a salve.

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[CitizenVagrant]

Bullchit.

Having kids = hard work.
Not having kids = easy life.

This. Still waiting on Daughters.gif

Children are a horrifying prospect, and considering how much past generations have fuked the future, I have no desire to bring someone into this mess.

[BustaCapp]

I think they're foolish and elitist. they look down on people without kids with contempt and envy. they always look at me and say, "you don't know the joy!". with their blood shot eyes, gray hair and strained finances.
I feel sorry for them, espicaly the married men with kids. they are literally at the mercy of their wives and to a lesser(but still enormous) degree kids. at any point she could decide she wanted a divorce. more than likely she'd get to keep the kids and as a result the house. god help him if she doesn't work and even if she does he'll still have to cut a massive check every week. he'll be living on a fraction of his income while she'll get to "maintain her lifestyle". granted in the US it varies state by state on divorce laws but I don't think there's even a single one that doesn't overwhelming side with the woman. even if she lies, cheats and steals from him. she's still getting the house and kids.
so have kids? not a chance in hell. no way I'm being on the hook for something I couldn't want not to happen more. get married and you might as well be a salve.

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This you?

[coctopus]

Bullchit.

Having kids = hard work.
Not having kids = easy life.

How does it being hard work make it not "self-indulgent'? Bodybuilding is hard work. Restoring a classic car is hard work. Becoming a surgeon is hard work. Most things in life worth doing are hard work. The fact that it's hard work doesn't make it not self-indulgent. People who choose to have kids do so because it's the life they want.

[scullin]

At 31 i see having kids very differently than i did in my 20s. To be honest, i can't wait to have kids.

That's it mane. I hated kids and never wanted them in my 20s. But around your age is when I warmed up to the idea. Had two (and now I'm done) and they are the best thing in my life. But this is something people need to decide on their own. If someone doesn't want them or does want them it's their business not anyone elses. Unless they are full retards having 6 kids on the government's dime.

[BustaCapp]

How does it being hard work make it not "self-indulgent'? Bodybuilding is hard work. Restoring a classic car is hard work. Most things in life worth doing are hard work. The fact that it's hard work doesn't make it not self-indulgent.

Bodybuilding and restoring a car is not the same as raising kids because you have a clear objective/reward and are indulging in the practice for the sole purpose of self gratification.

[BrocepCurls]

People seem to think that, for some reason, their genetics are actually worth passing on which in 99% of cases is in no way true. Combined with the desire to show off their kids to their friends, have someone to look after them in their old age, and to conform to what everyone else does in society and follow like a mindless sheep, you have your answer OP.

[BustaCapp]

People seem to think that, for some reason, their genetics are actually worth passing on which in 99% of causes

I don't think you'll make the 1% son.

[coctopus]

Bodybuilding and restoring a car is not the same as raising kids because you have a clear objective/reward and are indulging in the practice for the sole purpose of self gratification.

Self-gratification is not the sole reason for wanting kids, but it is a factor. You refuse to acknowledge this. You have your opinion, and that's fine.

I'm out. I have work to do.

[BrocepCurls]

I don't think you'll make the 1% son.

Why are you so mad ITT? Are you trying to desperately convince yourself that you aren't miserable after having kids?

[BustaCapp]

You have your opinion, and that's fine.

Thanks so much brah.

[BustaCapp]

Why are you so mad ITT? Are you trying to desperately convince yourself that you aren't miserable after having kids?

I ain't mad at all bro. I got 2 kids so I must have forgot how miserable I was to have a second!

[BrocepCurls]

I ain't mad at all bro. I got 2 kids so I must have forgot how miserable I was to have a second!

Let's try and do the decent thing and stop pretending you wouldn't be much happier without having children to look after.

If you want to help people and benefit humanity, there are countless people out there who are in need of support/love. Bringing another child into this world with the premise of having someone to raise and nurture is fukking lol worthy.

[Tuksonrider]

Our way of gaining immortality.

[menseks]

Kids are expensive, why not a nice parrot or cat?

some of us have jobs. those jobs pay for stuff like houses, cars, and kids. when you hit a certain age, you want something of a legacy, to carry on your name or family tradition. it's kind of bleak to know everything you worked for will end with you. trust me, i just had a kid, it's hard work and really expensive, but it's worth it. it's really rewarding to see them happy.

[Jungeri]

I ain't mad at all bro. I got 2 kids so I must have forgot how miserable I was to have a second!

I really hoped you wouldn't have kids because passing your fat genes just makes the world worse place.

Bet you haven't/didn't do anything in your life and you just wanted kids to feel like you did something. I feel sorry for your children and I'm happy my dad/mom didn't act like you. Why do you have the need to look down at people who have no kids? You really think you are better person than people without kids? To me you sound like a fat fuk who has nothing else to do but talk sht about other people because you feel like **** yourself.

Good luck to your children, they'll need it.

[m1n2v5]

lol @ parents who think they're better than people who decide not to have kids

[scullin]

lol @ parents who think they're better than people who decide not to have kids

Yeah neither is better or worse, it's a personal choice. And I know some that shouldn't even have had kids. Although for a lot of people (myself included) having kids has enhanced their lives.

[NoahBrah]

cats are cool, kids can make millions doe

[poppytee]

****yeah introduce some more kids into this awesome world

[Mumra]

forget everything else here. watch the news and tell me that bringing a life into this **** hole of a world is not child abuse. lol (sortasrs but not really)

Bodybuilding and restoring a car is not the same as raising kids because you have a clear objective/reward and are indulging in the practice for the sole purpose of self gratification.

true but I've never seen someone's car wash their kid with gravel. lol

I ain't mad at all bro. I got 2 kids so I must have forgot how miserable I was to have a second!

happens with women and child birth. don't believe me? shove a cantelope up your nose and see if you want to do it again in a couple of years. lol!

[OrbitalDropKick]

yea i like to fill voids... womb sacs.

Strong name.

[RU4A69]

Alcohol. Wish I was joking.

[BustaCapp]

Let's try and do the decent thing and stop pretending you wouldn't be much happier without having children to look after.

If you want to help people and benefit humanity, there are countless people out there who are in need of support/love. Bringing another child into this world with the premise of having someone to raise and nurture is fukking lol worthy.

Lets not pretend the real reason you are rustled about people who decide to have kids. You are either:

A manlet
FA
Beta
Ugly
A virgin
Socially awkward
Gay
All of the above

I really hoped you wouldn't have kids because passing your fat genes just makes the world worse place.

Bet you haven't/didn't do anything in your life and you just wanted kids to feel like you did something. I feel sorry for your children and I'm happy my dad/mom didn't act like you. Why do you have the need to look down at people who have no kids? You really think you are better person than people without kids? To me you sound like a fat fuk who has nothing else to do but talk sht about other people because you feel like **** yourself.

Good luck to your children, they'll need it.

I don't look down at all people who don't have kids, there are lots of people who's circumstances would never allow it to happen (e.g. pathetic FA beta virgins such as yourself). I just think most of those who actively decide not to do so are self centred and shallow, and are ending their age old legacy for the sake of playing runescape in their mothers basement and surfing reddit.

****yeah introduce some more kids into this awesome world

You know what - this is the most awesome the world has ever been. Despite all the negativity reported around the world, I personally think the world is a far better place to live than it's ever been. At least in the western world anyway. Who am I to deny another soul entering into existence and being a part of it?

Alcohol. Wish I was joking.

LOL! Do you regret it?

[outfoxxed]

What over population crisis? This isn't fuking India or China.

what? not sure if trolling or genuinely retarded

on topic, people bringing children into the world are most likely making it a worse place. at the end of the day they contribute tons of garbage and pollution to the world and don't really add much

[BustaCapp]

what? not sure if trolling or genuinely retarded

on topic, people bringing children into the world are most likely making it a worse place. at the end of the day they contribute tons of garbage and pollution to the world and don't really add much

What's the point of having a nice world if there is nobody here to enjoy it?

How about mankind continues in his endeavours to evolve, develop technology and fossil free fuels and in 200 years who knows, Earth might be a utopia.

Or how about you kill yourself? According to your logic it'll make the world a better place.

Miserable neckbeards.

[JrJack]

I can't shame the dynasty bro.

[outfoxxed]

What's the point of having a nice world if there is nobody here to enjoy it?

How about mankind continues in his endeavours to evolve, develop technology and fossil free fuels and in 200 years who knows, Earth might be a utopia.

Or how about you kill yourself? According to your logic it'll make the world a better place.

Miserable neckbeards.

right, and your kid is going to be the one who creates the fossil free fuels?

let's be real here, your kids are not going to be special *******. they're going to work a shytty 9 to 5 job, they're going to spend 45 years of their life working and then they get old and die and no one in the world is going to remember them.

i honestly lol @ people who think their kids are going to make the world a better place.

face it *******, you have kids for selfish reasons and you're not a better person because you have them