want pump & energy pre workout, DYNO? Nano Vapor? C4? Vortex? JYM?

[Tiko377]

I want to get back to lifting and doing some cardio...

What product do you guys recommend?

[AMeyer9]

Out of those you mentioned, JYM but I wouldn't recommend it for cardio. Or maybe dial it back to half a scoop if you do. Make sure you start out with half a scoop though to see where you're at with caffeine

[EPolis13]

Yeah, I would caution against heavy stims in conjunction with cardio. There are other options not on your list that are good for pumps and energy, as well.

[xStevenx]

if you are just getting back into it...train without supplements. Gauge how your training and diet works first before adding in supplements.

[Tiko377]

Wanted to add PUMP HD into the mix as well heard good things

[Tiko377]

if you are just getting back into it...train without supplements. Gauge how your training and diet works first before adding in supplements.

I got 2 kids. ...can't ....I need that extra push/feeling

[dblum93]

C4 is an awesome preworkout and I think one of the best for those who have taken a long preworkout break or first time users. It's well rounded and will give good energy. Lower on the stims which is good to gauge your tolerance with. You will definitely get that 'feeling' and see good improvements to your lifts. I would check that out!

[MillerTime07]

Check out Mad Dog (from the makers of Trutein). Just released and its currently 10% off!

[tommydec02]

I use c4 and love it and like the guy above said not very high on caffeine

[AMeyer9]

OP do you drink coffee?

[maKINGwaffles]

I religiously take 1 scoop C4 + 2 scoops Hemavol before every workout. I get insane energy and pumps from it and highly recommend.

[wishiwasdivin]

Yeah, I would caution against heavy stims in conjunction with cardio. There are other options not on your list that are good for pumps and energy, as well.

^^ This

But out of those you listed I like Nano Vapor, Vortex.

And there are other options..

[ChrisLS8]

Ritual is the perfect all around pre for cardio and lifting. Acute benefits as well as accrued endurance. Taste, profile and price are on point.

We also have a brand new flavor coming out in a couple days

[The Solution]

C4 is an awesome preworkout and I think one of the best for those who have taken a long preworkout break or first time users. It's well rounded and will give good energy. Lower on the stims which is good to gauge your tolerance with. You will definitely get that 'feeling' and see good improvements to your lifts. I would check that out!

I use c4 and love it and like the guy above said not very high on caffeine

I religiously take 1 scoop C4 + 2 scoops Hemavol before every workout. I get insane energy and pumps from it and highly recommend.

Appreciate the support fellas.
For cardio i would say 1 scoop c4 because 135mg caffeine should be more than enough to aid you through walking on a treadmill or a few intervals...

For working out i would suggest option 2 above with the C4+ hemavol which would be a legit 1-2 punch to aid pumps as well due to nitrates in C4.

C4 could stack well with White Pump, Vaskular, high Volume which are other great non-stim products if you want to look for the pump only.

I would suggest lower stims to start if you are not needing a lot of stims like neon volt or psycho by scivation
Katana would be a good stim/pump agent, WFR, Presurge, and Core Fury

Check out Mad Dog (from the makers of Trutein). Just released and its currently 10% off!

I would not suggest 250mg of caffeine for cardio...

[ironicinori]

IMO nothing beats JYM for a full profile. Huge energy, proven ingredients, big pump.


Or Scream, which is really the same thing.

I didn't actually read before posting :P What he said, I wouldn't take large amounts of caffeine before cardio. You'll get hella dehydrated, or feel like crap from drinking so much water.

[Big.Jazayrli]

I want to get back to lifting and doing some cardio...

What product do you guys recommend?

As others have mentioned, you don't really want to take heavy stimulant doses before you do cardio.

However.. ErgoBlast is an excellent choice for lifting!

[BradHowarth]

3 tablespooons of cofffee

[emergency]

Nano Vapor is currently 30% off on both the 40 and 60 serving tubs.

[iamjeffrey]

of those you listed nano vapor takes it for me.

Otherwise katana, maxout, ritual three good to look at. Just a few weeks ago ran out of maxout and ritual tubs. The feels.

[EPolis13]

of those you listed nano vapor takes it for me.

Otherwise katana, maxout, ritual three good to look at. Just a few weeks ago ran out of maxout and ritual tubs. The feels.

Sad no more MaxOut feels . At 300mg caff/scoop, I would not recommend MaxOut pre-cardio, though, but Hemavol would be a good choice as it does have endurance benefits and would provide the pump for which the OP is looking.

[sdfan13]

Out of those you mentioned, i'd prefer JYM. Out of those that you didn't mention, i'd prefer HALEO Vici

[TheFugitive]

Wanted to add PUMP HD into the mix as well heard good things

Pump-HD is a complete PWO and deserves to be mentioned

1MR Vortex is currently Buy 1 Get 1 Free

^^ This

But out of those you listed I like Nano Vapor, Vortex.

And there are other options..

Thanks for the V shout

[pu12en12g]

Have you tried White FLOOD + White PUMP ?

[TrainerTone]

I'd look into ProSupps De Jekyll. Low stim (100mg caffiene per scoop) and delivers a wicked pump

[Big_Spaz]

Want Pumps? Add iForce Hemavol to any pre-workout product.

Energy + Pumps = Excellent workout






-Spaz

[Daemonium]

I would look for something with complete doses of proven ingredients.

In saying this, I'd recommend PPK, Scream (a little short on BA, but very solid profile), C4 if you double scoop it. Pre JYM has an awesome profile but I've never used it. To get the benefits of said ingredients, you should be supplementing with them on a daily basis. If you just want caffeine-like energy, thats a different story.

[VO2Maxima]

From your list, I've used DyNO, Vortex, and C4.

DyNO gives me the most energy and best pump of the three, but it is very high stim and kind of sticks out on your list in that respect. I'm not sure I'd recommend it for cardio unless you're very familiar with your reaction to caffeine.
Vortex gives me laser-like focus, probably the best of that group in that respect, but not as good of a pump as I get on DyNO. Vortex also has yohimbine, so again, I'm not sure I'd recommend it for cardio unless you know how you'll react to it.
C4 is probably the safest stim-wise, but it's a two scooper for me. I don't get that big of a kick off of one scoop, but since it is lower stim, it may be a safer bet if you're not sure how your body will react to stimulants.

[TheFugitive]

From your list, I've used DyNO, Vortex, and C4.

DyNO gives me the most energy and best pump of the three, but it is very high stim and kind of sticks out on your list in that respect. I'm not sure I'd recommend it for cardio unless you're very familiar with your reaction to caffeine.
Vortex gives me laser-like focus, probably the best of that group in that respect, but not as good of a pump as I get on DyNO. Vortex also has yohimbine, so again, I'm not sure I'd recommend it for cardio unless you know how you'll react to it.
C4 is probably the safest stim-wise, but it's a two scooper for me. I don't get that big of a kick off of one scoop, but since it is lower stim, it may be a safer bet if you're not sure how your body will react to stimulants.

Thanks for the Vortex mention

[urg862]

I would only take a pre-workout for training ...not cardio...unless your doing cardio and lifting in the same session then I wouldn't take a pre before both...there's no need to take your pre 2x per day..

Out of the ones you mentioned I've only tried C4... I think it's always good to start with lower stims first

[fast00]

Vortex was good
so was c4, have yet to try nano vapor

If your open to more options check out
Pe1 lower stimmed but not too low +nitrates
Riot great price low stims well rounded