I think you guys may be onto something about Western society "changing" women.

[ptotheb]

I think it's because the US culture seems to heavily promote social atomism.

IMO...

Western spirituality/personal development is centred around self-image and 'success' (meaning money and status). A successful life is being confident, rich, and having high social status.

I understand that mentality also exists in the East, but they seem to value connections far more than the west, their spirituality/personal development is about forming better connections with their environment and others.

As a guy who grew up in a non-western and western society, I could not agree more.

[TeddiesLover]

Bc in non western cultures bishes need to find a man to support them in their struggling economies and $300 a month average salaries so they need to present an image of being good girls

Also bc American men are more aggressive, work out more, drive bigger trucks and have more swag in general, combined with alpha brahs and beebeeseas walking around so bishes think they can do better

Also bc a slim hot chick has instant validation bc she gets tons more attention whereas slim hot chicks are a dime a dozen in the developing world

[TurkBrah]

romanians women are whores anyway.

[doczola]

Bc in non western cultures bishes need to find a man to support them in their struggling economies and $300 a month average salaries so they need to present an image of being good girls

Also bc American men are more aggressive, work out more, drive bigger trucks and have more swag in general, combined with alpha brahs and beebeeseas walking around so bishes think they can do better

Also bc a slim hot chick has instant validation bc she gets tons more attention whereas slim hot chicks are a dime a dozen in the developing world

SO. MUCH. THIS.

ANY eastern european sloot will tell u there is a real shortage of men in the old country and that western males have so much more competition. Sorry but if I was predisposed to flea bucket chicks who live off of their 9 children and then was brought over to the west where women work out/wear make up/dress provocatively I would be trying to make the most of my time here

[der29]

The arabs understand how to contain a woman's inner whore. Just LOL @ 'american men are more alpha'...yeah number one divorce rate in the world and the men get taken to the woodshed in court.

[TurkBrah]

the arabs understand how to contain a woman's inner whore.

feel bad for those who won't marry a true muslim woman. srs. feelsgoodman.

[High4Lyf]

would bang western sloots on the side but would only marry a fob asian/middle eastern crew

[sword_]

The arabs understand how to contain a woman's inner whore. Just LOL @ 'american men are more alpha'...yeah number one divorce rate in the world and the men get taken to the woodshed in court.

lmao

[Bignate65]

Fuk this gay earth

[OgreBrah]

The whole "women are the same as men" thing is confusing women. Because they aren't the same as men but everyone is telling them they should be.

[der29]

feel bad for those who won't marry a true muslim woman. srs. feelsgoodman.

has nothing to do with religion. western society is openly telling women to be sluts....remember 'slut' walk...op shouldn't be surprised.

[eatmycrackers]

gtfo of my HEB, bro!

[KnockoutXX]

She didn't change, it was always inside of her, now she has the option to choose.

I think OP stumbled on the first red pill "truth" about women next to "alpha fux, beta bux" and this is the second one. Cold fact is you're just more likely to find a quality woman abroad, doesn't mean you are guaranteed. And American culture will test that.

Is not western society which is changing women, is the other way round

It's both, but it leans closer toward what you say. Most social "norms" and "rules" and tradition were meant to restrain women from allowing this to happen. Now that women are unleashed, and they control around 70-80% of men rather easily (desperate dudes) they certainly have changed western society.

I never would have downloaded the app Snapchat if it werent for women. While I don't have an Instagram, and have deactivated my ********, the female influence still certainly affects us all. The fact that I even know most of these words, is due mostly in part to women!


How much it affects you, is up to you.

tbh, euro girls are pretty bad as well, especially those in western Europe (eastern Europe are alright). Any place where western culture has a grip, women tend to be very slooty.

Yeah. I was in northern Europe earlier this year. I notice that they have become very Americanized, almost sluttier in a different way. They did have more class than American women though.

[100whey]

The two are correlated, but that doesnt mean that being in america caused her to leave him. People leave each other all the time. People leave each other after being together for longer than that. The fact that she has only been with him would be a major bummer for her. Its only after you've been with multiple sexual partners that you realize that sex really isnt as great as society makes it out to be. Either the emotional connection between them is shot or she wants other dicks and if her desire for other dicks is greater than the connection she feels for him then they shouldnt be together.

[sword_]

OP, so you're considering initiating a relationship with a girl like this who's not only made known her slooting-tendencies to you, but who snubbed and walked out on a partner of hers that she had for almost two decades?

FWB relationship but that's when the buck stops.

[Nobleneckbeard]

had that happen a few times too... They usually shutup when I tell them I've been graduated with an engineering degree and actually have a job within my degree field...

mirin, tell me more you cheeky kent. srs

[doczola]

I think OP stumbled on the first red pill "truth" about women next to "alpha fux, beta bux" and this is the second one. Cold fact is you're just more likely to find a quality woman abroad, doesn't mean you are guaranteed. And American culture will test that.





It's both, but it leans closer toward what you say. Most social "norms" and "rules" and tradition were meant to restrain women from allowing this to happen. Now that women are unleashed, and they control around 70-80% of men rather easily (desperate dudes) they certainly have changed western society.

I never would have downloaded the app Snapchat if it werent for women. While I don't have an Instagram, and have deactivated my ********, the female influence still certainly affects us all. The fact that I even know most of these words, is due mostly in part to women!


How much it affects you, is up to you.

Is this really true though?

I have really started expanding my dating pool and, to be frank, I havent really seen much in the way of "hope". It may not be so much about foreign women being "better" as it about suppression.

SLOOTS GONNA SLOOT

People need to understand the gravity of this statement. Women will always be self serving. Everywhere u go. If it isnt a western chick shirking on her motherly/homemaking responsibilities its eastern sloots trying to control you via passive aggression and overbearing mothers and fathers dictating through proxy.

Keep in mind though I still think a foreign chick is far better for a man who desires traditional women and wants to fulfill traditional gender roles. But "traditional" marriages are not exactly good and are not exactly beneficial to either party either. And this isnt entirely a western problem. In Japan and south korea, when divorce laws reached a level of "parity" women began divorcing men increasingly or taking similiar liberties.

[psai]

[KnockoutXX]

Is this really true though?

No matter where you travel as a man, you will have the "foreign guy effect". you will talk different, girls suddenly perk up to your story.

If you're an American bro, how many times have you been in school where the one British kid gets surrounded by women initially? If the guy is a total spaz with women they all leave faster than they came but otherwise he has some prime pickings over a pretty wide range of cute broads for a short period of time.


Have you traveled abroad? I recommend you do so not just for the women but for the experience. And in most places trust me, the women will come. You might even be approached by girls for just looking foreign.

I have really started expanding my dating pool and, to be frank, I havent really seen much in the way of "hope". It may not be so much about foreign women being "better" as it about suppression.

SLOOTS GONNA SLOOT

People need to understand the gravity of this statement. Women will always be self serving. Everywhere u go. If it isnt a western chick shirking on her motherly/homemaking responsibilities its eastern sloots trying to control you via passive aggression and overbearing mothers and fathers dictating through proxy.

Keep in mind though I still think a foreign chick is far better for a man who desires traditional women and wants to fulfill traditional gender roles. But "traditional" marriages are not exactly good and are not exactly beneficial to either party either. And this isnt entirely a western problem. In Japan and south korea, when divorce laws reached a level of "parity" women began divorcing men increasingly or taking similiar liberties.

What do you mean by expanded your dating pool?


I agree, the majority of women don't fight for their additional rights and privileges to completely ruin a man's life financially, but they will show solidarity and support for the women who do.


Eddie Murphy actually put it best when he said he would go to Africa to find his wife.....he would have to make sure she never got around American women.






I think what you CAN do as a man is to make it in her best interests for her to "self-serve" by being with you. IF you were so relationship inclined. I'm sorta okay with my short term flings but when I want stability in the future I know I'll be **** ed

[Vodkas21]

Marriage not even once. I'm not even religious but it's starting to become clear why it was made in the past, to keep these hos in place.

[Nutcase]

Its not the west dude, its just being in a new country and meeting new people. Its a fresh start, so they usually move towards leaving the past including relationships behind.

Heard this happen to waaaayyy too many people.

Long term relationship + extended stay over seas = bye bye relationship

[KnockoutXX]

Its not the west dude, its just being in a new country and meeting new people. Its a fresh start, so they usually move towards leaving the past including relationships behind.

Heard this happen to waaaayyy too many people.

Long term relationship + extended stay over seas = bye bye relationship

I'd like to think being engaged to be married or married is something a little more than just a long term relationship, but women more and moreso seem to be acting like it isn't.

[doczola]

No matter where you travel as a man, you will have the "foreign guy effect". you will talk different, girls suddenly perk up to your story.

If you're an American bro, how many times have you been in school where the one British kid gets surrounded by women initially? If the guy is a total spaz with women they all leave faster than they came but otherwise he has some prime pickings over a pretty wide range of cute broads for a short period of time.


Have you traveled abroad? I recommend you do so not just for the women but for the experience. And in most places trust me, the women will come. You might even be approached by girls for just looking foreign.





What do you mean by expanded your dating pool?


I agree, the majority of women don't fight for their additional rights and privileges to completely ruin a man's life financially, but they will show solidarity and support for the women who do.


Eddie Murphy actually put it best when he said he would go to Africa to find his wife.....he would have to make sure she never got around American women.






I think what you CAN do as a man is to make it in her best interests for her to "self-serve" by being with you. IF you were so relationship inclined. I'm sorta okay with my short term flings but when I want stability in the future I know I'll be **** ed

SOLID AS PHUCK POST

But then I have always enjoyed your insights into the female mind

my only question is whether women are simply hiveminded or merely now at liberty to do what they can and want. Personally dont think u can "teach" a sloot how to sloot. If they wanna sloot they'll find a way given the favourable circumstances

[KnockoutXX]

SOLID AS PHUCK POST

But then I have always enjoyed your insights into the female mind

my only question is whether women are simply hiveminded or merely now at liberty to do what they can and want. Personally dont think u can "teach" a sloot how to sloot. If they wanna sloot they'll find a way given the favourable circumstances

dude its so many factors going on I don't think any one of us could put a finger on the true, singular issue other than "female nature" ... sound dismissive dont it?


1) For as much as feminists go on about women fully controlling relationships, and for how much flaking girls do these days, you'd be surprised how many girls just give in to a dominant guy. Or to put it a better way they're paradoxically helpless against male desire. I'm sure alot of you have come across the token resistance girls put up when they're getting sexual and then they have that "ah **** it" moment and they not only let you have her, but welcome it with open arms (and legs).


2) A lot of it IS hivemind not just en masse culture but also in groups of girls, there's always one who seems to "get what she wants" from guys - typically by dressing and acting slutty. Male attention is currency in the realm of female competition. Very dumb girls mistaken male sexual attention for actual desire they crave, which I think you can see the difference between these two when your eyes are drawn to a cute, slim chick dressed with a skirt so high and tight you can see the shape of her thong from the back.


3) Receiving "validation" which in the past has been fulfillment of having offspring, having security for said offspring, and having resources for herself and her offspring via a male has changed to the lowest common denominator - namely, a "figurehead" male as a boyfriend (tends to be the beta bux, but not always!!) and a man to pump his rock hard dick inside her. These can sometimes be the same guy but not always. But even if the guy is a the almost-cliched "alpha male" the returns in validation a girl gets from the guy is diminishing, like some sick twisted nightmare from Economics 101.


I think you can chop this up to the fact that women really are weak, infantile creatures at heart. It sorta serves as an overarching tie to all these points, and proves you're right in both cases, they are hiveminded, and they are now at liberty to make mistakes.....unfortunately our culture does not hold women accountable to the mistakes they make however. Feminism fought long and hard for THAT privilege.

I know me even uttering this sentence is heresy, but I don't see that as a negative. The bond between mother and child is spectacular, it's just a shame this bond has been demonized in our modern culture.

[sword_]

A lot of knowledge ITT.