Deadlift From Check- Thanks Guys and Gals

**HumblyMuscles** · 05-30-2013, 04:11 AM

After great feedback the other night, thought I'd post my Dead from tonight 143Kgs ( 314.6lbs ) Criticism welcome.

WORK SAFE- NO SCREAM THIS TIME!!

...... I also cleaned my shed.....

**GuyJin** · 05-30-2013, 04:30 AM

My eyesight sucks, but my hearing's pretty good. No scream!

I thought your form was generally fine, but you could sink your hips a couple of inches lower. Keep your head up when pulling. Otherwise, okay. Using a mixed-grip is fine, and you had a nice, smooth pull. Overall, good job.

**drudixon** · 05-30-2013, 04:40 AM

Great lift. Good job ramping. I always about fall over when I do that. Much improved.

**BillyTNT** · 05-30-2013, 05:05 AM

Nice pull. Hips could be a tad lower.

**HumblyMuscles** · 05-30-2013, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by GuyJin

My eyesight sucks, but my hearing's pretty good. No scream!

I thought your form was generally fine, but you could sink your hips a couple of inches lower. Keep your head up when pulling. Otherwise, okay. Using a mixed-grip is fine, and you had a nice, smooth pull. Overall, good job.

It's probably just as well I didn't scream, means I have a few more kilos left yet!

**HumblyMuscles** · 05-30-2013, 05:58 PM

I was hoping the video would come out like this... can't see the resemblance just yet.......................................

**Flounderbout** · 05-30-2013, 09:20 PM

3 plates! Nice one!

**SKINS32** · 05-31-2013, 02:05 PM

**bodyhard** · 05-31-2013, 02:16 PM

That was actually a damn good pull. Props!

**pius36** · 05-31-2013, 02:19 PM

I think you need to stick your chest out a bit more. your head and chest at the start of the lift is my only concern.

**pius36** · 05-31-2013, 02:22 PM

yep I watched it a few more times and I def think there is some issues with your head and chest. fwiw the rest of the lift looks great. gotta get that chest up though

**ilovethe80s** · 05-31-2013, 03:01 PM

well done!! Your mechanics look great.

i watched a few times trying to envision what was going on in the upper half at the top 2/3 of the pull. You are a bar roller so the position you are in pre-pull and he actual start point are different, I think your actual start is around 00:09, chest is facing the ground, so maybe just try and lift that up some. And since you roll, just be careful that you don't roll in too much and put your shoulders too far out over the bar.

If you find yourself getting stuck or feeling a surge of resistance at the lockout when the weight gets heavy, 'chest lifted' and making sure bar is at the right point over the foot should help. Those minor corrections in setup will give you less work to do at lockout, get everything through the upper half squared away at the start so you can finish the drive with your hips.

Again, can't see much of what happened at the top of the lift on the vid so I could be totally off, but it looks like your knees might be bending at lockout? they look straight at :11 but at :12 it seems like there might be a bend/ scooping? Can't tell, it might just be the shorts.

It looks really good though. A lot of words there but in a nutshell it is just 'move an inch this way or that way'. Awesome pull

**HumblyMuscles** · 05-31-2013, 04:54 PM

Thanks for all the feedback. My brains a bit on overload- I don't wanna overthink on the lift now!!

I think I'll start by working on my head and chest a bit, and go from there. I appreciate the comments, as I feel I can lift more, I just don't want to cause any damage to my lower back.

My lower back is fairly strong, and I don't feel like I have any issues there, no real pain apart from normal muscle soreness- but getting heavier is always a worry!

Thanks again!

**pius36** · 05-31-2013, 05:27 PM

get that head up a little and chest out and you won't have to worry about injury no matter how much you pull. gl

**HumblyMuscles** · 05-31-2013, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by pius36

get that head up a little and chest out and you won't have to worry about injury no matter how much you pull. gl

Cheers!

**pius36** · 05-31-2013, 05:51 PM

cheers mate!

**pvsampson** · 05-31-2013, 07:19 PM

Good lift mate,well done.

**HumblyMuscles** · 05-31-2013, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by pvsampson

Good lift mate,well done.

Thanks PV, Can't wait to get an Olympic Bar, the ends of this one are starting to bend downwards from the weight!

**bigtallox** · 05-31-2013, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by pius36

get that head up a little and chest out and you won't have to worry about injury no matter how much you pull. gl

No, it's not that simple.

**bigtallox** · 05-31-2013, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by HumblyMuscles

NO SCREAM THIS TIME!!

Perfect. Thanks.

Your lift looks good, BUT it looks like you're more concerned about pulling your shoulders back at lockout than pushing your hips forward. It's hard to tell with the lighting and what you're wearing but your hips do NOT look locked out to me. The hips are the most important part of the lockout IMHO.

**bigtallox** · 05-31-2013, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by HumblyMuscles

Thanks PV, Can't wait to get an Olympic Bar, the ends of this one are starting to bend downwards from the weight!

All "good" deadlift bars bend, the more the better, I mean easier. ( Im not saying that's what you have, but just saying ). That's why I deadlift my axle more than barbells ( because it's harder when the bar doesn't bend ).

**HumblyMuscles** · 05-31-2013, 08:22 PM

Thanks a lot Bigtallox, I really respect your input- I was hoping you'd reply...

It's only a standard bar I have, don't know how much more I can put on it!

**bigtallox** · 05-31-2013, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by HumblyMuscles

Thanks a lot Bigtallox, I really respect your input- I was hoping you'd reply...

It's only a standard bar I have, don't know how much more I can put on it!

Cool, I understand, standard bars suck but in terms of deadlifting, but it's just not because they bend.

Once the bar passes your knees, try to drive your hips forward HARD ( I struggle with that too ). If you're trying to keep your hips down ( like it seems everybody always invariably says whens somebody asks for deadlift feedback but I don't necessarily agree with because this is dictated more by ratios of lengths of body parts than anything else )... before the bar passes your knees, try to drive your knees into the bar, but once the bar passes the knees DRIVE THE HIPS FORWARD HARD.

Happy deadlifting.

**HumblyMuscles** · 05-31-2013, 08:41 PM

Great thanks again. I'm off on holidays in a week and a half- I'm gonna go hunting for an Olympic Bar then.. Cheers

**Korr** · 05-31-2013, 08:42 PM

Agreed with bigtallox's statements.

You never really locked your legs out on the lift, and you need to learn how to use hip drive. There is also no point in leaning way back, it's a wasted movement. Once the bar is past you knees swing your hips into the bar, and stand up straight in the locked position.

Other than that you have the basic mechanics of the lift down. Now you need to prefect it.

**drudixon** · 06-01-2013, 03:57 AM

Originally Posted by ilovethe80s

well done!! Your mechanics look great.

i watched a few times trying to envision what was going on in the upper half at the top 2/3 of the pull. You are a bar roller so the position you are in pre-pull and he actual start point are different, I think your actual start is around 00:09, chest is facing the ground, so maybe just try and lift that up some. And since you roll, just be careful that you don't roll in too much and put your shoulders too far out over the bar.

If you find yourself getting stuck or feeling a surge of resistance at the lockout when the weight gets heavy, 'chest lifted' and making sure bar is at the right point over the foot should help. Those minor corrections in setup will give you less work to do at lockout, get everything through the upper half squared away at the start so you can finish the drive with your hips.

Again, can't see much of what happened at the top of the lift on the vid so I could be totally off, but it looks like your knees might be bending at lockout? they look straight at :11 but at :12 it seems like there might be a bend/ scooping? Can't tell, it might just be the shorts.

It looks really good though. A lot of words there but in a nutshell it is just 'move an inch this way or that way'. Awesome pull

Your eye for detail is awesome!

**drudixon** · 06-01-2013, 04:02 AM

Originally Posted by bigtallox

Cool, I understand, standard bars suck but in terms of deadlifting, but it's just not because they bend.

Once the bar passes your knees, try to drive your hips forward HARD ( I struggle with that too ). If you're trying to keep your hips down ( like it seems everybody always invariably says whens somebody asks for deadlift feedback but I don't necessarily agree with because this is dictated more by ratios of lengths of body parts than anything else )... before the bar passes your knees, try to drive your knees into the bar, but once the bar passes the knees DRIVE THE HIPS FORWARD HARD.

Happy deadlifting.

The only comment I'd add to this is that the closer your belt buckle is to the vertical plane of the bar prior to the lift, the easier it is. This forces torso up, butt into the right position, etc. The only thing to watch for is that if the bar is too far back your knees will get in the way. Do agree, fire those hips. Keeping abs really tight will help you fire the hips.

**ilovethe80s** · 06-01-2013, 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by bigtallox

If you're trying to keep your hips down ( like it seems everybody always invariably says whens somebody asks for deadlift feedback but I don't necessarily agree with because this is dictated more by ratios of lengths of body parts than anything else )...

^ this x a billion. If everything else is set up properly and just come down the minimum distance that you need to reach the bar, hips should automatically end up in the most ideal position, which could be high, could be low, depends on leverages. That cue is given a lot so works for some i suppose. personally, I find that it brings awareness to the wrong places in the pull and feels awkward to plunge down farther than you would naturally. I think the idea behind that cue is to avoid straightening the legs before the bar breaks the ground (as many do, but I don't really see that in your pull).

Originally Posted by drudixon

Your eye for detail is awesome!

thanks

**Flounderbout** · 06-01-2013, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by drudixon

Your eye for detail is awesome!

^This. I posted a vid of my 1RM last week and had some great feedback from various people but especially ILT80s. This week I banged out 5 reps at the same weight by following her advice. Humbly - listen to the girl, she knows 'er onions!
I should also point out that I have made it a life rule to always listen to what I am being told by anyone who is 6'8" and weighs 345lb...

**HumblyMuscles** · 06-01-2013, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by Flounderbout

^This. I posted a vid of my 1RM last week and had some great feedback from various people but especially ILT80s. This week I banged out 5 reps at the same weight by following her advice. Humbly - listen to the girl, she knows 'er onions!
I should also point out that I have made it a life rule to always listen to what I am being told by anyone who is 6'8" and weighs 345lb...

Thanks Flounder, that's good to hear!

Constructive criticism, intelligent comments or funny jokes are always welcome with me

Strongmen tend to be pretty cluey about leverage, bio-mechanics, not to mention injury prevention

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