Friend just said he's cutting out wheat and dairy from his diet... Da fuq

[PointBreak85]

the article then goes to assert that people who buy organic think they're better than everyone else

i havent said anything about micros inside, but I don't want the pesticides accumulated on the skin of the fruits/vegetables or the GM crap they call food in the first place.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3558185/

Many scientific data indicate that animals fed by GM crops have been harmed or even died. Rats exposed to transgenic potatoes or soya had abnormal young sperm; cows, goats, buffalo, pigs and other livestock grazing on Bt-maize, GM cottonseed and certain biotech corn showed complications including early deliveries, abortions, infertility and also many died (26–30). However, this is a controversial subject as studies conducted by company producing the biotech crops did not show any negative effects of GM crops on mice (31). Although Agri-biotech companies do not accept the direct link between the GMFs consumption and human health problems, there are some examples given by the opponents. For example: The foodborne diseases such as soya allergies have increased over the past 10 years in USA and UK (32) and an epidemic of Morgellons disease in the US (33). There are also reports on hundreds of villagers and cotton handlers who developed skin allergy in India (34, 35). Recent studies have revealed that Bacillus thuringiensis corn expresses an allergenic protein which alters overall immunological reactions in the body (36, 37).

i agree that gmo is straight up poison no doubt, i just know from what I have read that a apple from walmart is just as safe as a organic apple from whole foods

[Gemini578]

But who was oatmeal?

[Tomohawk92]

as for wheat..

Do not want autoimmune disorders from the gluten in wheat
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3292448/

[MrJohnLocke]

I am intolerant to both, and cut them out. Goodbye psoriasis, goodbye asthma

[seanb1979]

I am intolerant to both, and cut them out. Goodbye psoriasis, goodbye asthma

i have psoriasis and its not affected by diet at all... in fact ive never found any studies that show evidence that changing diet can cure psoriasis... maybe you had dermatitis, or eczema

[ne12o]

i have a ******* friend who constantly is quitting eating different food for no apparent reason...

"oh i quit eating meat now"
"why the fuk would u do that?"
"i dunno.... just to try it. humans are supposed to eat leaves"
"lulz, ok *******, lemme enjoy this steak"

did he take a look at his teeth

[costahobo]

as for wheat..

Do not want autoimmune disorders from the gluten in wheat
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3292448/

So what do you do about vegetables, with all their nasty phytates and oxalates? More people get food poisoning from fruits and vegetables than they do meat. Best avoid veggies, too!

[seanb1979]

i have a ******* friend who constantly is quitting eating different food for no apparent reason...

"oh i quit eating meat now"
"why the fuk would u do that?"
"i dunno.... just to try it. humans are supposed to eat leaves"
"lulz, ok *******, lemme enjoy this steak"

i know a girl like this... she thinks shes allergic to everything.. shes now a vegan who can only eat a very small range of foods, and whats funny is shes getting fatter and has less energy

[ace_gauntlit]

meanwhile OP's friend is drinking alcohol, eats candy, smokes and doesn't probably doesn't even exercise.

[ne12o]

yeah, the paleo thing is good and all and yes, hundreds of years ago when we founded agriculture and were making all this wheat, corn, etc. stuff it caused the life span of man to die out on average around the age of 30. the body wasnt adjusted to what was being produced. that has changed with the evolution of man...but it doesnt hurt to cut those things from a diet for overall health.

loled @ agriculture was founded "hundreds of years ago"
peopel dying in agriculture early on because yields were ****

[Realityy]

I cut out wheat and diary for a few weeks, just to see what effect it has. I definitely felt better srs, however I still eat wheat now and again and the only difference I notice is I seem to hold more subcutaneous water/look more bloated. Whenever I eat diary now, however, my stomach does backflips. It doesn't bother me anyway, the only reason I drunk milk in the first place was for my protein shakes. I use my whey for protmeal/sludge now.

Wheat/diary has no place in my diet now anyway, brb over 400grams of carbs from rice, oats, sweet potatoes, fruit and veg, and not a single bloat was had. brb muscles looking full without a layer of water covering my abs

[seanb1979]

So what do you do about vegetables, with all their nasty phytates and oxalates? More people get food poisoning from fruits and vegetables than they do meat. Best avoid veggies, too!

i anally absorb my vegetables.. its the safest way to get your phyto nutrients.... just be sure to wash and peel, use pure petrolatum and gently insert (dont want roids)... a full sized cucumber takes around 10 hours to absorb

[Tomohawk92]

I urge you to read a paper titled " Nutrition related health effects of organic foods: a systematic review."

will do if i can find it

lol in searching for that BTW, i could only find the abstract


Organically Grown Food Provides Health Benefits to Drosophila melanogaster
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3541339/

[AP12493]

There are sections of the population that are intolerant or allergic to dairy/wheat ]

What? Everybody is allergic to milk. Some more then others, but everybody is allergic to milk in terms of digestion

[xSlick1x]

By cutting dairy I'm guessing he'll be looking for alternatives. I don't know about almond milk but soy milk is an estrogenic which means man boobs and fat gain if he uses it enough.


Also does he plan on total dairy cut out? I know a girl who is not lactose intolerant but completely allergic to dairy. She can't have food that was cooked in butter even. Is he going that far or just cutting the obvious stuff out?

[ne12o]

changing the way your body metabolizes **** is not even close to what we've changed

our bodies are still the same exact ****ing machines they used to be, and require the same nutrition as before

yeah we can eat bad **** and it wont kill us, but you wont feel good and sure as **** wont be in top health condition



my fat and lazy as **** friend keeps bringing up this STUPID excuse "well im gonna die anyways and this aint gonna kill me", yeah well u say u feel like **** and by golly u look like it too, i wonder what the **** u should change

lol
1) u weigh 150lbs
2) take off all your clothes and run around the woods eating what you can find, that's the "natural" way

[MrJohnLocke]

i have psoriasis and its not affected by diet at all... in fact ive never found any studies that show evidence that changing diet can cure psoriasis... maybe you had dermatitis, or eczema

I limit omega 6 foods, and limit any food which gives me psoriasis outbreaks which for me is wheat and dairy. I eat a diet high in anti inflammatory foods. If you google it you can find studies that DEFINITELY link food intolerance and psoriasis. Do you have a food intolerance? Because that's what I was talking about.


Ojetti V, Sanchez JA, Guerriero C, et al. High prevalence of coeliac disease in psoriasis. Gastroenterology 2003; Suppl. 1: A656

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14638373

Skavland et al. In vitro screening for putative psoriasis-specific antigens among wheat proteins and peptides. Br J Dermatol. 2012 Jan;166(1):67-73.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21910707

Woo et al. Coeliac disease-associated antibodies correlate with psoriasis activity. Br J Dermatol. 2004 Oct;151(4):891-4.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15491433

just some things I picked up from a 5 second google search, maybe your google is broken?

[XPmpnII]

meanwhile OP's friend is drinking alcohol, eats candy, smokes and doesn't probably doesn't even exercise.

Yup... That's pretty much what he's been doing up until recently.

He's not lifting weights tho. He's doing DDP yoga

[XPmpnII]

By cutting dairy I'm guessing he'll be looking for alternatives. I don't know about almond milk but soy milk is an estrogenic which means man boobs and fat gain if he uses it enough.


Also does he plan on total dairy cut out? I know a girl who is not lactose intolerant but completely allergic to dairy. She can't have food that was cooked in butter even. Is he going that far or just cutting the obvious stuff out?

I think he's just cutting obvious stuff... Milk, cheese, etc

And a girl earlier actually commented and mentioned almond milk. I also think she mentioned Ezekiel bread

[Tomohawk92]

So what do you do about vegetables, with all their nasty phytates and oxalates? More people get food poisoning from fruits and vegetables than they do meat. Best avoid veggies, too!

"As long as you eat a varied diet and get adequate calcium intake each day, the small amount of calcium absorption inhibition from phytates or oxalates shouldn't be a problem."
http://www.fitsugar.com/Foods-Block-...ption-18836055

Not saying it's a reliable source.. but it doesnt seem like a big deal
Honestly though so far ITT the whole calcium deal, I can't find an alternative to milk

[alexanderberg]

Strong logical fallacies ITT, especially appeal to nature.

[Tomohawk92]

lol
1) u weigh 150lbs
2) take off all your clothes and run around the woods eating what you can find, that's the "natural" way

ad hominem from a dude with 13k posts since 2010..
not surprised

[PointBreak85]

What? Everybody is allergic to milk. Some more then others, but everybody is allergic to milk in terms of digestion

[MURedHawk235]

will do if i can find it

lol in searching for that BTW, i could only find the abstract


Organically Grown Food Provides Health Benefits to Drosophila melanogaster
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3541339/

here

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20463045

edit: if you cant access it I could get the pdf and email it to you

[Tomohawk92]

But who was oatmeal?

pretty sure oats are cool to eat, they dont have gluten so i dont see anything wrong with em

[G T]

Sure you don't NEED dairy or grain products, but unless you have a specific allergy to either, consuming it won't make the slightest difference.

Man has adapted to such foods since the introduction of agriculture.

[Bodybreak]

yeah, the paleo thing is good and all and yes, hundreds of years ago when we founded agriculture and were making all this wheat, corn, etc. stuff it caused the life span of man to die out on average around the age of 30. the body wasnt adjusted to what was being produced. that has changed with the evolution of man...but it doesnt hurt to cut those things from a diet for overall health.

Thats the dumbest thing Ive ever heard. We didn't evolve in a couple 100 years the only reason we are living longer is modern science.

Back on the topic of dairy/grains. Dairy is pretty damn horrible for you especially if you're buying locally, western pasteurization methods completely drain milk/cheese/yogurt etc. of its natural vitamins so they're added artificially afterwards. Then you have to realize that it also makes it nearly impossible for our body to break down any protein in milk so most of it just gets stored as fat or you chit it right out. If you REALLY have to have dairy in you're diet then make sure its all from New Zealand and when you go to buy protein either get lactose free or new zealand whey.

IMO its best to stay away from grains altogether because gluten is a whole different beast.

Honestly though so far ITT the whole calcium deal, I can't find an alternative to milk

Almonds. 25 alone takes you to like 60-70% of your daily value.

[RandomMisc]

Gluten is chit brah, wheat isn't good for anyone. Same with milk. Brb drinking pus and grossness pumped from a cow that is fed a crap diet and injected with hormones and antibiotics, then stripped of nearly all nutritional value during the govt mandated processing.

I still consume milk products occasionally but feel better when I avoid it. And gluten, not even once. I had to eat tons of wheat products the past 2 months to pepper my angus for a colonoscopy that was intended to either diagnose or rule out celiac disease, and I've felt like crap for every damn day of the past 2 months. So much more energy, a clearer mind, and a better functioning digestive system when I'm gluten free.

Your friend is doing a good thing, brah.

[Tomohawk92]

here

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20463045

he asked me to read the study, thats just the abstract
IDK why he had the copypasta of the title of the study and no link for it..

"The results of the largest study suggested an association of reported consumption of strictly organic dairy products with a reduced risk of eczema in infants"

the others they looked at could have been n=5, who knows
and they left out all non-human studies which I think are just as important



I will get u two on RC^^

[Cinderblock]

How am I supposed to eat my Captain Crunch with no milk?