Why don't Atheists make the world a better place?

[IDNeon]

Atheists are quick to tell you life sucks, and the world is imperfect, but they do almost nothing about it.

Most live in their mom's basement.

Meanwhile religious people of all beliefs mobilize huge capital, both monetary an human, and use them to help those in need.

Take Africa for instance.

Atheists whine about how bad it is in Africa.

But none of them are over there in charities, none of them take years of their lives to help the poor. The orphans. The starving.

They don't do anything but complain and whine.

[Lastman13]

Why doesn't OP stop crying and fist himself?

[flairon]

Why doesn't OP stop crying and fist himself?

seconded.

[Harbinger]

bye...

[Fing3rs]

Worst troll I've ever seen

[IDNeon]

Whaa, I'm a ******* atheist. All I do is whine on forums about how much the world sucks and it's all God's fault so I refuse to recognize God and that's better than just getting off my ******* ass and fixing the global problems I see.





Whaaaaaaa

[jump_man23]

Atheist/Agnostics who are notable humanists:

Warren Buffett (donated $40.785 billion to “health, education, humanitarian causes”)

Bill & Melinda Gates (donated $27.602 billion to “global health and development, education”)

George Soros (donated $6.936 billion to “open and democratic societies”)

[wings_unhinged]

Atheists are quick to tell you life sucks, and the world is imperfect, but they do almost nothing about it.

Most live in their mom's basement.

Meanwhile religious people of all beliefs mobilize huge capital, both monetary an human, and use them to help those in need.

Take Africa for instance.

Atheists whine about how bad it is in Africa.

But none of them are over there in charities, none of them take years of their lives to help the poor. The orphans. The starving.

They don't do anything but complain and whine.

An overwhelming number of scientists and technological innovators didn't and still don't believe in a magical super creator. Yet you're on a computer, enjoying the fruits of their labors.

Irony not even once.

[Harbinger]

Whaa, I'm a ******* atheist. All I do is whine on forums about how much the world sucks and it's all God's fault so I refuse to recognize God and that's better than just getting off my ******* ass and fixing the global problems I see.





Whaaaaaaa

[Lastman13]

Whaa, I'm a ******* atheist. All I do is whine on forums about how much the world sucks and it's all God's fault so I refuse to recognize God and that's better than just getting off my ******* ass and fixing the global problems I see.





Whaaaaaaa

You're still crying and you haven't fisted yourself yet. What gives OP?

[TheTwiglet]

Atheists are quick to tell you life sucks, and the world is imperfect, but they do almost nothing about it.
Most live in their mom's basement.
Meanwhile religious people of all beliefs mobilize huge capital, both monetary an human, and use them to help those in need.
Take Africa for instance.
Atheists whine about how bad it is in Africa.
But none of them are over there in charities, none of them take years of their lives to help the poor. The orphans. The starving.
They don't do anything but complain and whine.

Wot?
Most of the most prolific scientists, theorists, philosophers, mathematicians, physicists, etc throughout history have been atheists.

[IDNeon]

An overwhelming number of scientists and technological innovators didn't and still don't believe in a magical super creator. Yet you're on a computer, enjoying the fruits of their labors.

Irony not even once.

Whaaa, this has nothing to do with helping people get fed, and feel like someone actually cares about what happens to them

[Xhat1]

Well every atheist in the world is not a theist, and having less theists improves the world. It's really kind of a silly question when you think about it.

[IDNeon]

Wot?
Most of the most prolific scientists, theorists, philosophers, mathematicians, physicists, etc throughout history have been atheists.

Galileo, Copernicus, and Robert Bacon (inventor of the scientific method) were biblical literalists.

[Xhat1]

Galileo, Copernicus, and Robert Bacon (inventor of the scientific method) were biblical literalists.

Ahhh Galileo and Copernicus. Copernicus who came up with the geocentric model of the universe, which lasted centuries longer than it should have due to the church's habit of burning people alive for disagreeing with it. Galileo who is seen as a hero for taking his church on and finally getting a heliocentric model approved.

See what I mean? Without theists you'd have less people burned alive for being right. Theism, it's like cancer.

[IDNeon]

Well every atheist in the world is not a theist, and having less theists improves the world. It's really kind of a silly question when you think about it.

Hitler
Stalin
Pol pot
Mao
Kim Jong il
Castro
Blah blah blah.

[SIKHUNT]

OP what have you done to make the world a better place?

[IDNeon]

Ahhh Galileo and Copernicus. Copernicus who came up with the geocentric model of the universe, which lasted centuries longer than it should have due to the church's habit of burning people alive for disagreeing with it. Galileo who is seen as a hero for taking his church on and finally getting a heliocentric model approved.

See what I mean? Without theists you'd have less people burned alive for being right. Theism, it's like cancer.

You don't know anything except lies.

The Catholic Church fought against the practice of burning people, and only put Copernicus under censorship and Galileo under house arrest.

Both of them were theists.

Atheists are evidently dumb.

[IDNeon]

OP what have you done to make the world a better place?

I'm a firefighter/EMT, give to charity and missions abroad, and perform charities and volunteer for my community.

[Lastman13]

OP, we'll all rep you if you stop crying and take pics of you fisting yourself.

[wings_unhinged]

You don't know anything except lies.

The Catholic Church fought against the practice of burning people, and only put Copernicus under censorship and Galileo under house arrest.

Both of them were theists.

Atheists are evidently dumb.

A lot of people in the 16th century were theists.

Because forcing someone to recant because it contradicts your unproven claims, censoring their work, putting them on house arrest, and stunting the growth of scientific knowledge is okay?

Would love a source that states the RCC fought against burning people alive. History seems to disagree. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/va..._vatican29.htm

[IDNeon]

OP, we'll all rep you if you stop crying and take pics of you fisting yourself.

Fond a positive non-whining atheist thread! Hahahahaha

[TheTwiglet]

Galileo, Copernicus, and Robert Bacon (inventor of the scientific method) were biblical literalists.

Wow, 3.

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[IDNeon]

A lot of people in the 16th century were theists.

Because forcing someone to recant because it contradicts your unproven claims, censoring their work, putting them on house arrest, and stunting the growth of scientific knowledge is okay?

Would love a source that states the RCC fought against burning people alive. History seems to disagree. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/va..._vatican29.htm

Look up "Malleu Malefectorum" if I got the name right. "Hammer of the Witches".

The Catholic Church condemned it as superstitious crap, and condemned the practice of burning at the stake. Just look up the whole history of burning.

What you're confusing is "Ordeal by Fire".

A person may choose by what ordeal they would be tried, combat, fire, water etc.

There were strict guidelines, and this practice came from the knights, not the church itself.


Because the Cathoic Church is not monolith if you research the "hammer of the witches" you'll learn the practice of burning at the stake was perpetrated by a specific breed within the Church and most ended up leaving the church after the protestant schism.

Which is why witch burning went rampant during the late 1600s.

[SIKHUNT]

I'm a firefighter/EMT, give to charity and missions abroad, and perform charities and volunteer for my community.

do you think you only do this because you believe in god?

if someone somehow proved to you that god didn't exist, would you stop doing these things?

what does this have to do with theism/atheism?

[PaulG]

Why bother living, why not just martyr yourself and goto heaven?

[Dragger]

Why doesn't OP stop crying and fist himself?

This

[IDNeon]

do you think you only do this because you believe in god?

if someone somehow proved to you that god didn't exist, would you stop doing these things?

what does this have to do with theism/atheism?

What you meant to say was "damn he does do something".

I debate the existence of God, fairly well.

But, rather I'll just keep pointing to how Atheism is not for anything but only against something

[frankenstein78]

Hitler
Stalin
Pol pot
Mao
Kim Jong il
Castro
Blah blah blah.

Nice list of communists, plus, Hitler, who was Christian. Since this is an English speaking forum, where there are no communists, try again.

I just remarked a few days ago I wish there were some good organizations I could join that do good works in communities, without the whole God part involved. The only ones I'm aware of, I'd be the youngest member by like 30 years (Shriners, Lion's Club).

[GreatOldOne]

Atheists are quick to tell you life sucks, and the world is imperfect, but they do almost nothing about it.

Most live in their mom's basement.

Meanwhile religious people of all beliefs mobilize huge capital, both monetary an human, and use them to help those in need.

Take Africa for instance.

Atheists whine about how bad it is in Africa.

But none of them are over there in charities, none of them take years of their lives to help the poor. The orphans. The starving.

They don't do anything but complain and whine.

There's at least one over in Uganda right now OP. If you ask nicely I'll get her to give somebody a piece of chocolate and say it was from you. PM me.