Easy way to stay lean year-round

[Guitarlon]

GO VEGAN! Works for me anyways, lots of veggies, fruits, (yea despite high GIs & sugars,) guess it's the alkali Ph that helps also but a vegan diet is a great way to stay lean year round, for me at least - anyone want to post sample diets would be interesting...

[lee__d]

Counting calories works.

[ironwill2008]

Thread will not end well.

[Blacklabel3]

or you could do IF

[Guitarlon]

Counting calories works.

Yes it does - but some people don't want the chainbs of calorie counting - I don't and it's nice not to have to - unless doing contest prep or whatever

[Guitarlon]

or you could do IF

Yea I've always wanted to try that but still don't understand how you don't suffer severe muscle loss? If your body is catabolic after 3 - 4 hours without eating, how do you get away with 12 - 18?!

[Geoloop]

I see a red future for you young man.

[Guitarlon]

I see a red future for you young man.

Elaborate.

[Chaohinon]

Of course if you're eating nothing but fruits and veggies, you're incidentally eating extremely low-calorie. Same effects could be achieved with keto/paleo, IFing, or just plain old calorie counting without going full retard.

You'll feel good short-term, but long-term, say goodbye to your libido and good moods. And please for the love of god take a B12 supp.

[Darz23]

And give up on the wonderful meat/fish, dairy and eggs? I think not.

[Guitarlon]

Proof of Vegan being effective: DANIEL BRYAN: 225lbs, 5,8" and 7% BF! BOOM!

[Guitarlon]

Of course if you're eating nothing but fruits and veggies, you're incidentally eating extremely low-calorie. Same effects could be achieved with keto/paleo, IFing, or just plain old calorie counting without going full retard.

You'll feel good short-term, but long-term, say goodbye to your libido and good moods. And please for the love of god take a B12 supp.

Lol , what an uneducated post. I've been vegan 4 years, feel great, know plenty of bodybuilders and athletes that are also vegan. I eat around 4000k calories a day with a vegan diet, not exactly low cal is it? You're an idiot.

[SWIron]

in b4 the 50 bananas a day woman

[Chaohinon]

Lol , what an uneducated post. I've been vegan 4 years, feel great, know plenty of bodybuilders and athletes that are also vegan. I eat around 4000k calories a day with a vegan diet, not exactly low cal is it? You're an idiot.

Like I said, enjoy your ****ty moods and inability to use reason due to the lack of protein, fat, and B12 in your diet.

[Geoloop]

Elaborate.

Ima neg you as soon as i can. For making everyone in this forum dumber for having read this.

Proof of Vegan being effective: DANIEL BRYAN: 225lbs, 5,8" and 7% BF! BOOM!

and this... strong evidence.

[Guitarlon]

Like I said, enjoy your ****ty moods and inability to use reason due to the lack of protein, fat, and B12 in your diet.

Don't have bad moods. I get 150 grams proteina day easily enough, plenty of good fats from nuts, seeds, supplements, B12 I supplement. You need more education if you think there's no protein in a vegan/vege diet - did Bill Pearl look catabolic to you?!

[Guitarlon]

Ima neg you as soon as i can. For making everyone in this forum dumber for having read this.



and this... strong evidence.

Cool, I'll neg you for being 160lbs

[deadpool9]

I'm interested in how you would hit daily goal protein intake on a lower TDEE. Say if you weighed 160lbs, and ate 1800 cal/day.

Please elaborate on this.

[desslok]

I'm interested in how you would hit daily goal protein intake on a lower TDEE. Say if you weighed 160lbs, and ate 1800 cal/day.

Please elaborate on this.

But he weighs 190, as is obvious looking at his pics

[cldillmann1]

this is the worst thread i have ever read.... and I have created stupid threads so i would know.... hence the Reds.... jeezzzz

[JasonDB]

Proof of Vegan being effective: DANIEL BRYAN: 225lbs, 5,8" and 7% BF! BOOM!

Fixed your red problem for using this as an example of a dream physique that an be obtained by aribitrary food avoidance:


I counter your anecdote with... Branch Warren who eats tons of steak 7 days a week.

Far more muscle and less body fat than your example. Next.

[Guitarlon]

But he weighs 190, as is obvious looking at his pics

Avatar is 2 years old. 190 now, with maybe an extra 2 - 3 % bf. Anyways to answer your question deadpool - I usually get 30 - 40grams of protein per meal from beans. Yes it's not exciting, however, a tin of kidney beans, black beans etc will give you around that and usually contain just 150 - 200 cals. To boost calories I eat more carbs: oats, wholemeal bread etc. My diet is higher in carbs than normal so my macros are 50% carbs, 30% protein and 20% fats. Does that help?

[Guitarlon]

Fixed your red problem for using this as an example of a dream physique that an be obtained by aribitrary food avoidance:


I counter your anecdote with... Branch Warren who eats tons of steak 7 days a week.

Far more muscle and less body fat than your example. Next.

Uhhh yea ok and loads of hgh, roids and insulin vs natural. I was trolling with the 7% BF comment but posta pic of bill pearl like I said - I'm sure he looks good in your book also?!

[JasonDB]

Uhhh yea ok and loads of hgh, roids and insulin vs natural. I was trolling with the 7% BF comment but posta pic of bill pearl like I said - I'm sure he looks good in your book also?!

We are posting anecdote not all the facts here or you wouldn't have used some famous individual as your example without any further details into what they do or even finding out if their vegan status has slightly hindered their progress in any way. Furthermore I can assure you as a WWE wrestler he isn't natty either.

Bill Pearl is not even remotely a vegan. Gallons of dairy and dozens of eggs a day do not a vegan make. I am very familiar with him, and consider him a legend.

[ironwill2008]

Avatar is 2 years old...

You're representing poorly for veganism, OP.

If you feel your way is 'better,' show some current results with a recent pic.

[Guitarlon]

We are posting anecdote not all the facts here or you wouldn't have used some famous individual as your example without any further details into what they do or even finding out if their vegan status has slightly hindered their progress in any way. Furthermore I can assure you as a WWE wrestler he isn't natty either.

Bill Pearl is not even remotely a vegan. Gallons of dairy and dozens of eggs a day do not a vegan make. I am very familiar with him, and consider him a legend.

ok how about Derek Tresize - he is. Or Mike Mahler Your theory is wrong

[Guitarlon]

You're representing poorly for veganism, OP.

If you feel your way is 'better,' show some current results with a recent pic.

Umm, I wouldn't say my avatar pic is "poor" results lol - much better condition that you

AND I never said my way was BETTER! was just interested in hearing some opinions geez!

[Guitarlon]

We are posting anecdote not all the facts here or you wouldn't have used some famous individual as your example without any further details into what they do or even finding out if their vegan status has slightly hindered their progress in any way. Furthermore I can assure you as a WWE wrestler he isn't natty either.

Bill Pearl is not even remotely a vegan. Gallons of dairy and dozens of eggs a day do not a vegan make. I am very familiar with him, and consider him a legend.

LOL he isn't natty casue he's in the WWE? SO CM Punks all juiced as well? You're not well versed are you.

[deadpool9]

Umm, I wouldn't say my avatar pic is "poor" results lol - much better condition that you

AND I never said my way was BETTER! was just interested in hearing some opinions geez!

I don't know if you noticed, but IronWill is 64 years old. Most of us will be very blessed to look half as good as him at his age.

[Guitarlon]

I don't know if you noticed, but IronWill is 64 years old. Most of us will be very blessed to look half as good as him at his age.

point?