I think I might try squatting to failure today . . .

[Protege385]

What happens if I do? Is there a high risk of injury, or will I just be stuck at the bottom lol. With the ROM I use I can't really squat lower than I do on a normal rep so I'm wondering what would happen.

[matjusm]

What happens if I do? Is there a high risk of injury, or will I just be stuck at the bottom lol. With the ROM I use I can't really squat lower than I do on a normal rep so I'm wondering what would happen.

Umm....you just put the barbell down on the safety pins?

[Protege385]

Umm....you just put the barbell down on the safety pins?

Is that going to be easy to do?

[ironwill2008]

Is that going to be easy to do?

You're not going to have any choice if you Squat to "failure."

[captinfocker]

yes its fairly easy to do. set the pins so that there is no too much distance between your bottom squat and the pins. then just heave it off backwards on the pins

best example i could find of a decent fail

[-Lucifer]

Your lumbar will give out before your legs do.

[Protege385]

That doesnt seem too hard at all. Thanks for the responses guys (that vid takes away my concern). I'm going to do 8 X 3 today and I'm sure I'll fail at some point towards the end.

[Protege385]

Finished the 8 X 3 a little while ago and didnt fail. On the last set I did 6 to kind of force a failure, but I still didnt. Almost tho

[Farley1324]

What happens if I do? Is there a high risk of injury, or will I just be stuck at the bottom lol. With the ROM I use I can't really squat lower than I do on a normal rep so I'm wondering what would happen.

Here's a failure video of mine. I probably could have had the rep but my injured back has made me very gunshy of grinding out squat reps . Oh well, the 3rd and 4th reps weren't as deep as I want anyway so I'll try again next time this day comes up.

[weeeed]

Here's a failure video of mine. I probably could have had the rep but my injured back has made me very gunshy of grinding out squat reps . Oh well, the 3rd and 4th reps weren't as deep as I want anyway so I'll try again next time this day comes up.

here's a tip my man, tilt your head slightly upward, you are looking down and that is a nono for the spine yagetmebrah.

[Farley1324]

here's a tip my man, tilt your head slightly upward, you are looking down and that is a nono for the spine yagetmebrah.

I do not want to look up.

Why would putting my cervical spine into a less natural position (looking up) be better?

I would much rather squat with a neutral neck position.

[Protege385]

Here's a failure video of mine. I probably could have had the rep but my injured back has made me very gunshy of grinding out squat reps . Oh well, the 3rd and 4th reps weren't as deep as I want anyway so I'll try again next time this day comes up.

Damn bro, is that scary when it happens? I'm petrified of this for some reason.

[Mr.Cooper69]

Damn bro, is that scary when it happens? I'm petrified of this for some reason.

no its not scary. wtf. its almost a relief when you fail on a squat. it is literally a weight off your shoulders. you sit back for a sec after the fail, let it hit you that you just failed, then pick up the weight and do another set. its like failing in anything else, its no big deal.

[Farley1324]

Damn bro, is that scary when it happens? I'm petrified of this for some reason.

Nah

It is frustrating, irritating, disappointing or something along those lines. Safety bars are there for a reason.

I am pretty sure that in the past year I have only bailed on three total squat reps. Two back and one front. Both of the back squat bails I have on video. One was the last rep of an attempted 345x5, the other was the last of the attempted 350x5 I just posted. They were many months apart though

[EPMD]

Practice failing with a lighter load than you plan on using. Hopefully that will give you confidence that you'll know what to do when you need to bail on a lift.

[omarahad]

i tried it till failure once.. not the best idea in the world.

[Protege385]

Practice failing with a lighter load than you plan on using. Hopefully that will give you confidence that you'll know what to do when you need to bail on a lift.

That sounds like pretty good advice

[Farley1324]

i tried it till failure once.. not the best idea in the world.

Not failing/bailing is definitely preferred.

I never intentionally take any of the main lifts to failure

[chazzy1864]

Apprehension of failing is understandable if you don't have a rack, but to be scared of failing inside a rack just seems ..... really odd.

[unity]

here's a tip my man, tilt your head slightly upward, you are looking down and that is a nono for the spine yagetmebrah.

why are you giving out advice to someone with much experience than you?

[Ka0s]

I do not want to look up.

Why would putting my cervical spine into a less natural position (looking up) be better?

I would much rather squat with a neutral neck position.

Rippe-quote?

[unity]

Apprehension of failing is understandable if you don't have a rack, but to be scared of failing inside a rack just seems ..... really odd.

i think people get this idea that they are just going to suddenly collapse at point of failure.

[Farley1324]

Rippe-quote?

Quote? No. What Ripp would support or instruct? Probably.

i think people get this idea that they are just going to suddenly collapse at point of failure.

Could be.

In the video I posted it is obvious (well, at least to me, lol) I made the conscious decision to bail on the lift and simply dropped down quickly until the safeties took the weight. Nothing to it really.

[chazzy1864]

i think people get this idea that they are just going to suddenly collapse at point of failure.

I know, exemplified by the people who state they can't do flat bench due to no spotter and state their reasoning is they dont' want to die.

[MWheatley]

here's a tip my man, tilt your head slightly upward, you are looking down and that is a nono for the spine yagetmebrah.

Noone who is experienced in training gets you, brah.

[Farley1324]

I know, exemplified by the people who state they can't do flat bench due to no spotter and state their reasoning is they dont' want to die.

lol yes!

It's not hard. If you are benching PROPERLY you won't have the bar over your face or neck unless your arms are locked out anyway. You also will not use a thumbless grip.

If you fail the bar should be over your chest. Assuming you aren't benching in your basement by yourself with collars on, etc, a heavy barbell on your chest isn't really that big of a deal. I got pinned in my parents basement once or twice years ago...I did the roll down and sit up once and the tilt it till plates fall off the end once.

It's not a very big deal if you do it right

[WilWander]

I do not want to look up.

Why would putting my cervical spine into a less natural position (looking up) be better?

I would much rather squat with a neutral neck position.

I think he means look straight ahead, not to the ceiling. At least, I hope he doesn't mean to the ceiling.

Props for locking out at the top - so sick of seeing people do squats without doing so.

[Farley1324]

Props for locking out at the top - so sick of seeing people do squats without doing so.

Well yeah, I gotta breathe! lol

[adimare]

Props for locking out at the top - so sick of seeing people do squats without doing so.

Is there something wrong with leaving your knees a bit bent at the top while catching a breath between reps? I do that, having my knees fully straight on top feels a bit uncomfortable to me.

[chazzy1864]

Is there something wrong with leaving your knees a bit bent at the top while catching a breath between reps? I do that, having my knees fully straight on top feels a bit uncomfortable to me.

I prefer to keep tension on the muscles, not on my joints.

Different strokes.