squat to calf raise ratio

[qdiddy69]

for those of you who feel that they have a good barbell calf raise to barbell squat ratio how much can you squat compared to calf raise? Just looking to fix my imbalances in leg strength and any input will help

[samatash]

lol

[qdiddy69]

lol

please do not laugh at my serious questions, it hurts my feelings

on a serious note, i would like a real answer. My knees have been giving me problems lately and i am sure the fact that i have a weak achilles tendon isnt helping

[freeride88]

I can calf-raise a dump truck. I can only squat a car.

[PotKettleBlack]

lol

Short, sweet and to the point. I feel this is an adequate response that I share.

[qdiddy69]

Short, sweet and to the point. I feel this is an adequate response that I share.

maybe to you it may seem silly that i want to know how strong my plantar flexion should be in comparison to my squat, but we all know the importance of balance for athletes and since i currently have in imbalance of strength i want to know how much i need to work on calf raises to fix it. I honestly don't know what is so silly about this question in comparison to alot of the other questions that are usually asked around

[pyrolee]

maybe to you it may seem silly that i want to know how strong my plantar flexion should be in comparison to my squat, but we all know the importance of balance for athletes and since i currently have in imbalance of strength i want to know how much i need to work on calf raises to fix it. I honestly don't know what is so silly about this question in comparison to alot of the other questions that are usually asked around

If your knees are giving you problems, look to the hips, not the calves, for the area that needs to be addressed.

P.S. And most likely your form needs to be fixed too.

[LeakyQuesadilla]

i can max squat 335. but i calf raise 405 usually.

[MWZ90]

fail who cares what you calf raise, omg fail

[Redneckspud]

please do not laugh at my serious questions, it hurts my feelings

on a serious note, i would like a real answer. My knees have been giving me problems lately and i am sure the fact that i have a weak achilles tendon isnt helping

I can almost guarantee that if your having knee pain, its from wearing the wrong type of shoes, not from having an "inadequate" calf raise.

[qdiddy69]

I can almost guarantee that if your having knee pain, its from wearing the wrong type of shoes, not from having an "inadequate" calf raise.

i wasn't pinpointing the cause of my stress to be weak calf raises xD, as i said it doesn't help so i would like to strengthen my calf raise along with going easier on the squats for a while

fail who cares what you calf raise, omg fail

you fail because you dont understand the point of my post, why dont you reread it

[qdiddy69]

I can almost guarantee that if your having knee pain, its from wearing the wrong type of shoes, not from having an "inadequate" calf raise.

i wasn't pinpointing the cause of my stress to be weak calf raises xD, as i said it doesn't help so i would like to strengthen my calf raise along with going easier on the squats for a while

If your knees are giving you problems, look to the hips, not the calves, for the area that needs to be addressed.

P.S. And most likely your form needs to be fixed too.

thank you for a seirous reply and yes i do realize the importance of hip strength and i am sure that neither that nor technique is contributing to my pain, its probably mostly due to the increased intensity of my workload

[Redneckspud]

Coming to a section where people dont focus on calf raises at all isnt the best way to get info. The Teen section would probably have lots of info for ya tho.

[SquatzAndPuke]

[Rippetoe]The ideal squat to calf raise ratio is 1:1.387. If your ratio is not precisely that, I will have you killed. It's important to be ideal.[/Rippetoe]

[Kiknskreem]

There is no meaningful correlation between the two lifts.

[qdiddy69]

Dude, who gives a ****?

If you feel that you need stronger calves, do a couple of sets of calf raises a week...

..... i am doing a couple of sets of calf raises a week now, why would i make this thread if i wasnt, i care because i would like to know what a good goal should be for my calf raises to attain symmetry in my strength

[SquatzAndPuke]

..... i am doing a couple of sets of calf raises a week now, why would i make this thread if i wasnt, i care because i would like to know what a good goal should be for my calf raises to attain symmetry in my strength

I changed my original post to be more beneficial for you.

[qdiddy69]

There is no meaningful correlation between the two lifts.

i was always under the influence that symmetry in the strength of the muscles and tendons connecting to a joint is important for the joint health and to prevent injury, are you saying that the calf muscle and achillles tendon are both unimportant to the knee?

Coming to a section where people dont focus on calf raises at all isnt the best way to get info. The Teen section would probably have lots of info for ya tho.

the teen section would be alot more focused on doint 20 calf raises to get big calf, id assume that this section would be alot more worried of gaining strength rather then just getting a pump

[qdiddy69]

I changed my original post to be more beneficial for you.

1 : 1.387, ok thank you that is very helpful

[pyrolee]

i wasn't pinpointing the cause of my stress to be weak calf raises xD, as i said it doesn't help so i would like to strengthen my calf raise along with going easier on the squats for a while

thank you for a seirous reply and yes i do realize the importance of hip strength and i am sure that neither that nor technique is contributing to my pain, its probably mostly due to the increased intensity of my workload

can you post a vid? knee pain during the squat is caused by improper form and improper flexibility in the hip and, to a lesser degree, ankle.

[LiveForDaPump]

1 : 1.387, ok thank you that is very helpful

lmfao

[qdiddy69]

can you post a vid? knee pain during the squat is caused by improper form and improper flexibility in the hip and, to a lesser degree, ankle.

i don't have a video currently but to get into my workout routine as of lately i have been doing all my squats at very high intensity 4 reps or less coupled with high intensitiy plyometrics, and my knee pain has just recently starting coming back (I use to squat with bad form that i fixed a while back). Im also getting some hip pain too btw..

I realize i might get a comment saying that my calf raises isn't the reason im getting knee pain and its more of an overtraining thing, but again im only trying to work on calf raises because i feel that it doesn't help the situation i am also going to go down in intensity on my squats

[Kiknskreem]

i was always under the influence that symmetry in the strength of the muscles and tendons connecting to a joint is important for the joint health and to prevent injury, are you saying that the calf muscle and achillles tendon are both unimportant to the knee?

No, I'm saying there's no useful information to be gleaned from a comparison of a BB Squat and BB calf raise.

Its like asking how many pullups can you do and what's your bench?

[bango skank]

There is no meaningful correlation between the two lifts.

This^^

[qdiddy69]

No, I'm saying there's no useful information to be gleaned from a comparison of a BB Squat and BB calf raise.

Its like asking how many pullups can you do and what's your bench?

you can find out how strong your hips and knees are in comparison to your lower leg, i don't understand how thats not usefull

a majority of the muscles used in the squat connect to the knee and the muscles in the calf raise also connect to your knee their for i would assume it would be usefull to know if all those muscles had a balance of strength. Am i looking at this in the wrong way?

[bango skank]

Am i looking at this in the wrong way?

Yes. The calf muscle extends the foot. The squat consists of zero foot extension. Therefore the calf does not move the barbell in any appreciable way.

[qdiddy69]

Yes. The calf muscle extends the foot. The squat consists of zero foot extension. Therefore the calf does not move the barbell in any appreciable way.

that is not the point of my post......... Im not trying to increase my squat by increasing my calf raise, i am trying to increase the health and stability of the knee joint by having all the muscles that connect to it have symmetry in strength, ive repeated this point many times now

[bango skank]

Okay; you want the strength of your muscles to be in symmetry. How does comparing an isolation movement, that uses primarily one muscle with virtually no involvement in the squat, to a compound movement, that uses more muscles than any other strength lift, help you to discern this? Why wouldn't you compare individual isolation movements or individual compound movements.

Or why wouldn't you just get as strong as possible in every lift like a normal person does? Because I can assure you that doing this will give you the strongest knees possible.

What you are doing is like trying to give your car a stronger engine by buying new wiper blades. IT MAKES NO SENSE!

[SquatzAndPuke]

that is not the point of my post......... Im not trying to increase my squat by increasing my calf raise, i am trying to increase the health and stability of the knee joint by having all the muscles that connect to it have symmetry in strength, ive repeated this point many times now

Great. We've repeated many times now that this point is retarded.

THERE IS NO SYMMETRY. THERE IS NO RATIO BETWEEN CALF STRENGTH AND SQUAT STRENGTH.

[SquatzAndPuke]

What you are doing is like trying to give your car a stronger engine by buying new wiper blades. IT MAKES NO SENSE!

Actually, I think what he's doing is more like trying to make his tires last longer by buying a better stereo.