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    Top 10 reasons why gay marriage is wrong.

    1) Being gay is not natural.
    And real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses,polyester, and air conditioning, tattoos, piercings and silicon breasts.



    2) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay.
    In the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.



    3) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior.
    People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract. Lamps are next.



    4) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all.
    Hence why women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.



    5) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed.
    And we can't let the sanctity of Britney Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage be destroyed.



    6) Straight marriages are valid because they produ​ce children.
    So therefore, gay coupl​es, infertile couples,and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our population isn't out of control, our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.



    7) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children.
    Since, of course, straight parents only raise straight children.



    8) Gay marriage is not supported by religion.
    In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

    (Did I miss the lesson where Jesus says He hates gays?)



    9) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home.
    Which is exactly why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.



    10) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms.
    Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.
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    I consider myself to be rather open-minded (who doesn't?) as long as people have decent reasons for their opinions and/or beliefs...

    I'm against the war, but I could see why you'd be for it.

    I'm pro-choice, but I could see why you'd be pro-life.

    Etc.

    But this is one issue I won't waver on. There is no real justification for denying gays the right to marry. It's absurd. There is no logical foundation for the opposition whatsoever.
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    6) Straight marriages are valid because they produ​ce children.
    So therefore, gay coupl​es, infertile couples,and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our population isn't out of control, our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.



    7) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children.
    Since, of course, straight parents only raise straight children.



    8) Gay marriage is not supported by religion.
    In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

    (Did I miss the lesson where Jesus says He hates gays?)

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    Originally Posted by StartTheMachine View Post
    I consider myself to be rather open-minded (who doesn't?) as long as people have decent reasons for their opinions and/or beliefs...

    I'm against the war, but I could see why you'd be for it.

    I'm pro-choice, but I could see why you'd be pro-life.

    Etc.

    But this is one issue I won't waver on. There is no real justification for denying gays the right to marry. It's absurd. There is no logical foundation for the opposition whatsoever.
    Those who are in touch with their religion are the ones who are against it. I can see a church not marrying gays because it is against their beliefs. Though I think they should be able to marry by a judge or going down to the local probate court.
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    Originally Posted by GottaBeHUGE View Post
    Those who are in touch with their religion are the ones who are against it. I can see a church not marrying gays because it is against their beliefs. Though I think they should be able to marry by a judge or going down to the local probate court.
    If churches don't want to marry gays, that's their prerogative.

    BUT we should also keep in mind that churches are exempt from a number of taxes, and while nobody should force them to marry gays, you can make the argument that if a specific church isn't willing to, their tax exempt status should be called into question. If they don't have to pay taxes, then taxpaying gay citizens should be able to marry there.
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    Originally Posted by StartTheMachine View Post
    But this is one issue I won't waver on. There is no real justification for denying gays the right to marry. It's absurd. There is no logical foundation for the opposition whatsoever.
    Civil Union.

    Simple and easiest solution. I'm not sure why people are so against this.

    I can understand not allowing the act of marriage, but being married doesn't mean you are a couple in the eyes of the government. This is where the religious side are crossing the line.
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    Originally Posted by Daegus View Post
    Civil Union.

    Simple and easiest solution. I'm not sure why people are so against this.

    I can understand not allowing the act of marriage, but being married doesn't mean you are a couple in the eyes of the government. This is where the religious side are crossing the line.
    I like where your head is, but I have to say I think of it as a stepping stone to the real thing. If gays want the word "marriage", they should be allowed to have it, IMO.

    Even if the only difference between the two is the term itself.
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    Originally Posted by StartTheMachine View Post
    I like where your head is
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    Originally Posted by Daegus View Post
    Civil Union.

    Simple and easiest solution. I'm not sure why people are so against this.

    I can understand not allowing the act of marriage, but being married doesn't mean you are a couple in the eyes of the government. This is where the religious side are crossing the line.
    If you mean not forcing churches to marry gays, that's not going to happen. Religious organizations will always be free to conduct their services and rituals according to their beliefs.

    There are some churches and synagogues who freely and happily bless same sex unions. That is their right also, as it is the right of the Roman Catholic Church and Eastern Orthodox Church to refuse to do so.

    In any case, a marriage does not exist without a civil license first. Marriage IS a civil matter, not religious.
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    Originally Posted by Superion View Post
    1) Being gay is not natural.
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    Originally Posted by Superion View Post
    1) Being gay is not natural.
    And real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses,polyester, and air conditioning, tattoos, piercings and silicon breasts.



    2) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay.
    In the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.



    3) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior.
    People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract. Lamps are next.



    4) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all.
    Hence why women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.



    5) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed.
    And we can't let the sanctity of Britney Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage be destroyed.



    6) Straight marriages are valid because they produ​ce children.
    So therefore, gay coupl​es, infertile couples,and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our population isn't out of control, our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.



    7) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children.
    Since, of course, straight parents only raise straight children.



    8) Gay marriage is not supported by religion.
    In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

    (Did I miss the lesson where Jesus says He hates gays?)



    9) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home.
    Which is exactly why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.



    10) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms.
    Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.

    You gay? You can attempt to justify it all you wish, still does not change it from not being right.
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    Originally Posted by hank-williams View Post
    You gay? You can attempt to justify it all you wish, still does not change it from not being right.
    Doesn't change what from not being "right"? What needs "justification"? Amending the Constitution to include discrimination?
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    Doesn't change what from not being "right"? What needs "justification"? Amending the Constitution to include discrimination?

    It is the right of a gay person to be gay, it is not the right of the gay person to be accepted in society as being gay. The justification comes in when one makes excuses and comparisons that do not even match up to try an prove a point. So, that makes the points in the first post invalid.
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    Originally Posted by hank-williams View Post
    It is the right of a gay person to be gay, it is not the right of the gay person to be accepted in society as being gay. The justification comes in when one makes excuses and comparisons that do not even match up to try an prove a point. So, that makes the points in the first post invalid.
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    Originally Posted by hank-williams View Post
    It is the right of a gay person to be gay, it is not the right of the gay person to be accepted in society as being gay. The justification comes in when one makes excuses and comparisons that do not even match up to try an prove a point. So, that makes the points in the first post invalid.
    So what justification is there for NOT accepting a gay person into society? Other than "it's wrong."
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    lol, I do declare Rune I am using my brain!
    Then please explain why the comparisons made in the OP are invalid instead of just stating they are.
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    Originally Posted by hank-williams View Post
    It is not the right of the gay person to be accepted in society as being gay.
    Well as the old saying goes what goes around comes around, if you can't accept people for things they have no control over, how do you expect people to do the same for you?
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    Originally Posted by hank-williams View Post
    It is the right of a gay person to be gay, it is not the right of the gay person to be accepted in society as being gay.
    People throw the words "accept" and "acceptance" around an awful lot, like they do with the terms "threat to marriage" and "preserve the sanctity of marriage", not to meniotn "activist judges" and "legislating from the bench". But I have yet to hear a valid or rational definition of those terms. Can you provide one?
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    Originally Posted by hank-williams View Post
    It is the right of a gay person to be gay, it is not the right of the gay person to be accepted in society as being gay. The justification comes in when one makes excuses and comparisons that do not even match up to try an prove a point. So, that makes the points in the first post invalid.
    Why do you think these things? You do not have to accept gay people. You simply have to tolerate us. We are fellow citizens and deserve all the same rights you take for granted. We need make no "excuses", we are what we are. The law makes no distinctions in or gives preference to any religion, race, or sexual preference. Or it shouldn't.
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    Originally Posted by hank-williams View Post
    It is the right of a gay person to be gay, it is not the right of the gay person to be accepted in society as being gay. The justification comes in when one makes excuses and comparisons that do not even match up to try an prove a point. So, that makes the points in the first post invalid.
    the irony of a man who proclaims the love of jesus who refuses to accept those who are different than himself.

    in the words of your savior arent we all sinners?
    arent we all children of god?
    arent we all deserving of the love of jeeeeesus?

    why would you single out this particular group and expose them to unfairness?
    if everyone is a sinner than everyone deserves to be treated equally!

    either you do not understand the religion that you follow, or your religion is a hypocritical and highly flawed farce!
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    someone didn't get enough attention as a child....
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    God made adam and eve not adam and steve
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    why not allow incest marriages between 2 adults?

    Because it's ****ING DISGUstING
    ( i dont feel this way, but it's a common justification i see)
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