thought a lot of people would mention ON and AllMax
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08-03-2014, 01:34 PM #31
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08-03-2014, 01:38 PM #32
ITT, people that dont follow the forums very often vs people who are always on the forums
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I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate...
Disclaimer: The above post is my personal opinion and does not represent the official position of any company or entity. It does not constitute medical advice.
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08-03-2014, 01:46 PM #33
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08-03-2014, 01:54 PM #34
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08-03-2014, 02:17 PM #37
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08-03-2014, 02:19 PM #38
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08-03-2014, 02:44 PM #39
MAN and AEN get high ranks in my book for being two of the more innovative companies out there over the years and constantly offering the highest quality. Core should get a nod for not offering a single product in a prop blend and showing that everything they put in is adequately dosed.
I also continuously buy from AI Sports and Controlled Labs quite a lot."The gym became an arena where I had the opportunity to be a hero" - Mike Mentzer
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08-03-2014, 03:07 PM #40
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08-03-2014, 03:18 PM #41
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08-03-2014, 03:21 PM #42
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08-03-2014, 03:45 PM #44
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08-03-2014, 04:00 PM #46
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08-03-2014, 04:35 PM #47
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08-03-2014, 04:36 PM #48
I was hoping someone would call me out on this eventually
No matter what I'll probably come off as a hypocrite. What I will say is I am against proprietary blends. However, I can also understand why some companies feel they need to use them. PES is one of the few companies utilizing novel ingredients in novel formulas, so it makes sense to utilize a prop blend to help prevent other companies or your at home formulators from copying the formulas. These are some of the few proprietary blend products you can tell are not pixie dusted.
Two of the formulators for PES are two people I trust to formulate quality products. I would still prefer the blends not to be propriety, but I can understand it for this select company.
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08-03-2014, 04:56 PM #52
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08-03-2014, 05:53 PM #53
This thread has made me really think about it.
Bodybuilding.com been supporting them for years and see no reason to stop
Controlled labs - great products, fair prices
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IFN - creative products, great lineup, hemavol
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08-03-2014, 05:54 PM #54
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08-03-2014, 06:17 PM #55
Thanks for all the mentions guys, means a lot.
Cj's answer is pretty much spot on. I can of course remind you of the original Erase and Anabeta. Neither of the ingredients had established doses in humans. PES chose to disclose, and now look how many arimistane clones there are using the exact same dosing scheme. It actually took a while to arrive at that dose from what I'm told (before my time) because all they had to go off was in vitro data. Similar story with anacyclus products.
Anyway, if there's a novel ingredient, you can expect a proprietary blend. That's just the nature of the game. We do have a couple formulas (soon to be released) where we're focused on delivering full doses of already well-established (but certainly very effective) ingredients, and those should be non-proprietary since there is no need for a prop. blend in that case.
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08-03-2014, 06:32 PM #56
Thanks for the MuscleTech recommendation! The company has done a great job improving its image within the last few years or so. MuscleTech has a wide variety of supplements in its arsenal. Even if someone doesn't like MuscleTech as a whole, there are at least a few products that user will like out of the various lines.
Last edited by llahhsoj; 08-03-2014 at 07:44 PM.
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