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    Originally Posted by wanaBsedated View Post
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    there are a ****load of studies on the matter. Get on google. Protein itself isn't anabolic. It is used for repair. Having enough protein is necessary for anabolism. But enough actually is only a very small amount. This protein hype only benefits supplement companies and GI specialists when you have surgery on your colon.
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    Originally Posted by pyro19 View Post
    He told me he would sometimes eat 400-500g of protein and 7000 calories!!! This was while he was on AAS but as MOST of you may not know STEROIDS ARE NOT MAGIC...

    DIET/SLEEP/LIFESTYLE = 50%
    HOW HARD YOU TRAIN = 30% = YOUR RESULTS
    STEROIDS = 20%

    Just breaking it down so we dont get in a stupid steroids argument here... Ive experienced it on my own, my cousin did aswell, and the current trainer/bodybuilder/doctor i workout with has told me this aswell..
    there are no percentages you idiot
    everything has to be done properly for muscle growth, they all complement each other

    by your logic
    if you just take up diet/sleep/lifestyle you will be gaining at 50%, which doesn't happen

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    Originally Posted by pyro19 View Post
    You are an idiot that knows nothing about AAS!! Look at my above post! STEROIDS ARE NOT MAGIC!!

    People who are 220lbs 9% bf MAY be because of "juice", and a GREAT DIET/REST RIGIMINE and AN AMAZING TRAINING ROUTINE!!

    People like you should have no say what so ever about steroids... Steroids are only 20% of it when using, its just a little extra help... Without the above said you can do steroids and gain only 5lbs!! then lose it on top of that for being so ****ty
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    Your an idiot... Im talking from experience and building QUALITY MUSCLE not bloating and water weight... Therefore A LITTLE EXTRA HELP...
    Originally Posted by pyro19 View Post
    Right im gona take advice from a 19 year old that knows nothing about nutrition and AAS... I agree on MASSIVE amount of protein is a waste, say 170lb man consuming 500g but i think a 170lb person consuming 250-300g of protein along with the needed other condiments is perfectly fine...
    i have no knowledge about juice..that is why i have not talked about it at all
    but you don't know **** about nutrition
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    Originally Posted by wanaBsedated View Post
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    there are a ****load of studies on the matter. Get on google. Protein itself isn't anabolic. It is used for repair. Having enough protein is necessary for anabolism. But enough actually is only a very small amount. This protein hype only benefits supplement companies and GI specialists when you have surgery on your colon.
    Dude, its Leucine that triggers muscle growth. ( in whey protein ) And you need a certain amount to get the best benefits. You will create a negetive nitrogen balance with so little protein.
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    Originally Posted by ChrisSWE View Post
    Dude, its Leucine that triggers muscle growth. ( in whey protein ) And you need a certain amount to get the best benefits. You will create a negetive nitrogen balance with so little protein.
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    I think this is the first thread i have seen that I cant tell if people are truly being serious or not.
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    bro, it's already apparent that muscle grows by FKN MIRACLES, and those SCIENTISTS are just LYIN' AND GETTIN ME PISSED
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    Originally Posted by ChrisSWE View Post
    Dude, its Leucine that triggers muscle growth. ( in whey protein ) And you need a certain amount to get the best benefits. You will create a negetive nitrogen balance dude with so little protein.
    protein itself has a negligable effect as a TRIGGER for anything. Like I said it's fuel for repair, without it, you're not going to repair correctly. Nitrogen balance can be positive with only a small amount of protein.
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    Have trained with 180gr of protien per day for a long time now and thats not even 1g per lb of weight.
    When i increase my Carbs i notice weight/muscle gain not when i increase my Protien.

    Do you honestly think that a bodybuilding.com which is a Supplement website is going to advocate its users to use/buy LESS protien powder supplements??

    You do not need to eat 300gr of protien per day...

    If i was to eat 1.5gr-2gr per lb of body weight per day i would have to eat 345-460 gr of protien per day. Good luck eating that much protien.
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    Originally Posted by NorthTexasBB View Post
    I think this is the first thread i have seen that I cant tell if people are truly being serious or not.


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    Originally Posted by superdunkaroos View Post
    there are no percentages you idiot
    everything has to be done properly for muscle growth, they all complement each other

    by your logic
    if you just take up diet/sleep/lifestyle you will be gaining at 50%, which doesn't happen

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    i have no knowledge about juice..that is why i have not talked about it at all
    but you don't know **** about nutrition
    Really?? Wich is why i look way better than you?? Wich maybe is why i probablly lift 10x more than you?? And my percentages are an estimate you ****!! If you dont EAT RIGHT you wont gain anything on anabolics... People seem to think theyre magical... Ive done it!! And i did it the wrong way and ive done it the right way and built SOLID MUSCLE GAINS... Big difference between bloated with watery gains...

    And i know nothing about nutrition ok, what does your diet look like sir??

    And you say lifestyle/diet have nothing to do with it... So your saying if i eat pretty ok and i go out ALL NIGHT and party/drink etc im gona gain the same as if i had a stricter regimine?? GTFO with that ****, the percentages mean what you gain.. 50% of your gains will reflect on your diet..
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    Originally Posted by pyro19 View Post
    Really?? Wich is why i look way better than you?? Wich maybe is why i probablly lift 10x more than you?? And my percentages are an estimate you ****!! If you dont EAT RIGHT you wont gain anything on anabolics... People seem to think theyre magical... Ive done it!! And i did it the wrong way and ive done it the right way and built SOLID MUSCLE GAINS... Big difference between bloated with watery gains...

    And i know nothing about nutrition ok, what does your diet look like sir??
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    Really?? Wich is why i look way better than you?? Wich maybe is why i probablly lift 10x more than you?? like sir
    You don't have pics, shut up.
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    Originally Posted by pyro19 View Post
    Really?? Wich is why i look way better than you?? Wich maybe is why i probablly lift 10x more than you?? And my percentages are an estimate you ****!! If you dont EAT RIGHT you wont gain anything on anabolics... People seem to think theyre magical... Ive done it!! And i did it the wrong way and ive done it the right way and built SOLID MUSCLE GAINS... Big difference between bloated with watery gains...

    And i know nothing about nutrition ok, what does your diet look like sir??

    And you say lifestyle/diet have nothing to do with it... So your saying if i eat pretty ok and i go out ALL NIGHT and party/drink etc im gona gain the same as if i had a stricter regimine?? GTFO with that ****, the percentages mean what you gain.. 50% of your gains will reflect on your diet..
    maybe it has worked for you... but does that mean was it right?

    i am not saying that by eating 3-4grams/lb you are gonna die
    all i was saying is what is the need? why eat so much when it is not beneficial in anyway?

    and by no means am i an expert, only been lifting for 10months
    that is why i ask for proof when people say something that seems fishy, if you can back up your claims..i will thank you for your knowledge
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    Originally Posted by CharH06 View Post
    ronnie coleman takes in 500g if protein, maybe u should to....strong creditable sources and peer reviewed scientific basis u have behind that study....


    the reason that those ppl take so much is cuz no1 is 100% sure wut the correct ammount needed is so they just stick to the age old rule, they will rather put more in than not have enough.
    yeah he also on a lot of drugs which allow him to utilize that high protein intake

    I think 1lb per bodyweight is about right I don't feel any different from more and excessive protein can be a waste imo.
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    Originally Posted by superdunkaroos View Post
    maybe it has worked for you... but does that mean was it right?

    i am not saying that by eating 3-4grams/lb you are gonna die
    all i was saying is what is the need? why eat so much when it is not beneficial in anyway?
    All i know is from experience and from training with different people, some of them being bodybuilders themselves that you have to eat big to get big, simple, and eat the right things ofcourse...

    And i know i dont have a pic but i dont come on here often enough to want to post one and none of my stuff has been updated in like a year...

    And like i said i agree on the 3-4g per lb is just retarded, your body isnt gona use that.. But 2g per lb i think is perfect, no more than that... and i can gaurantee better gains on 2g per lb than just 100g per day..
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    Yes. The average American consumes enough protein daily to fuel an Olympic athlete.
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    Originally Posted by pyro19 View Post
    Really?? Wich is why i look way better than you?? Wich maybe is why i probablly lift 10x more than you?? And my percentages are an estimate you ****!! If you dont EAT RIGHT you wont gain anything on anabolics... People seem to think theyre magical... Ive done it!! And i did it the wrong way and ive done it the right way and built SOLID MUSCLE GAINS... Big difference between bloated with watery gains...

    And i know nothing about nutrition ok, what does your diet look like sir??

    And you say lifestyle/diet have nothing to do with it... So your saying if i eat pretty ok and i go out ALL NIGHT and party/drink etc im gona gain the same as if i had a stricter regimine?? GTFO with that ****, the percentages mean what you gain.. 50% of your gains will reflect on your diet..
    He didnt say diet/lifestyle have nothing to do with it. But diet/lifestyle alone will yield 0% results not 50% results. Wow your dumb.
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    Originally Posted by pyro19 View Post
    All i know is from experience and from training with different people, some of them being bodybuilders themselves that you have to eat big to get big, simple, and eat the right things ofcourse...

    And i know i dont have a pic but i dont come on here often enough to want to post one and none of my stuff has been updated in like a year...
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    Originally Posted by wanaBsedated View Post
    Nitrogen balance can be positive with only a small amount of protein.
    Stop reading studies from the 18th century brah and deliver some studies backing up your claim. Silly is all i can say. And yes protein repairs muscles. Millions upon millions of athletes around the world uses the high protein diet.
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    yea brah, eat like a beast, lift like a beast and sleep like a beast...amirite?









































    GTFO WITH UR 1920s SLOGANS *******!
    No man, im saying lift like a bitch, eat mcdonalds and go party and drink all night and you'll get the same results as a pro bodybuilder...



    Your so stupid, come back when you actually have some knowledge to share...
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    Originally Posted by pyro19 View Post
    No man, im saying lift like a bitch, eat mcdonalds and go party and drink all night and you'll get the same results as a pro bodybuilder...



    Your so stupid, come back when you actually have some knowledge to share...
    5'7 168


    rofl...u r such a fkn pro bodybuilder, lay off the juice man. Go to sleep son, u have no knowledge about nutrition at all.
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    Originally Posted by josh0899 View Post
    He didnt say diet/lifestyle have nothing to do with it. But diet/lifestyle alone will yield 0% results not 50% results. Wow your dumb.
    You said it, diet and lifestyle ALONE will give you nothing..... Combined with working out you'll see more gains eating right than not...
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    Originally Posted by Joseph_Brosef View Post
    5'7 168


    rofl...u r such a fkn pro bodybuilder, lay off the juice man. Go to sleep son, u have no knowledge about nutrition at all.
    Like i said i havnt updated anything, i come on here maybe once a month.. Look at the last time i updated that... About 1 year ago.. lol stupid lil boy

    And i never claimed to be a pro but i do know a few..
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    Originally Posted by pyro19 View Post
    Like i said i havnt updated anything, i come on here maybe once a month.. Look at the last time i updated that... About 1 year ago.. lol stupid lil boy

    And i never claimed to be a pro but i do know a few..
    good cover up homo, i'm actually 300lb @ 5%. silly lil *******.
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    Originally Posted by pyro19 View Post
    no man, im saying lift like a bitch, eat mcdonalds and go party and drink all night and you'll get the same results as a pro bodybuilder...
    go to any gym u see and talk to a lot of the biggest guys there

    many of them eat whatever the hell they want and party 1-2x a week


    it's complete bullcrap that u need to life like a monk to have a great physique
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    1 guestion guys.....

    i have 2 protein shakes a day...

    i train @ 5pm ....

    should i have 1 protein shake b4 training.. and 1 after...?? or both after training??

    @ reasonable times obviously.....
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    Originally Posted by Joseph_Brosef View Post
    good cover up homo, i'm actually 300lb @ 5%. silly lil *******.
    You never in your life would say that to my face lol but i have nothing to prove to someone like you... Carry on
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    Originally Posted by DatDereCe11Tech View Post
    go to any gym u see and talk to a lot of the biggest guys there

    many of them eat whatever the hell they want and party 1-2x a week


    it's complete bullcrap that u need to life like a monk to have a great physique
    Some of the hugest guys @ my gym know fuk all about protein and $hit, they just eat and lift basically.
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    Im just going to go ahead and eat as much protein as I want and not listen to some dude Ive never heard of. Thanks.

    Whey isnt even expensive.
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