So you want a big chest huh?

[superman11978]

here is what a tight stomach looks is suppsoed to look like taken in october

Strong gyno. Your nips are going to be like dinner plates by the end of next year, which means Hola will automatically win the beauty contest.

[CloudSurfer]

Strong gyno. Your nips are going to be like dinner plates by the end of next year, which means Hola will automatically win the beauty contest.

This pose just shows how tight my waist and how good my rib cage is compared to hola's ...don't hate the playa hate the game. Imagine in Dec. 09' ;-)



edit: you clearly don't know what gyno is


oh and you're 159lbs with 13" arms shutup and go eat

[DiamondDelts]

.

[DiamondDelts]

Oooh oooh me next, insult me next!

Let me suck on 'em bro.

[mjw8204]

What happened to this thread?

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...41&postcount=3
+
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...1&postcount=42

[Drekkor]

Let me suck on 'em bro.

DD bites!

[SDFlip]

no problem I will make a thread and post our pictures there we will do all the bodybuilding mandatory poses and have a subjective panel judge it ....not these e-gangs of yours ... i mean a truly subjective panel...If Hola is willing to agree with me it would be an honor to defeat him....and he will gain my respect and I will admit he is better

i'll rep you if you look better than Hola by the end of next year.

i agree you do have a better aesthetic look to your build than Hola, but your development so far is not at his level. if you gain even half of the 55lbs you want, you might look better.... but those 25lbs better all be in your legs and back.

dude, 20 inch arms.... lean..... in a year...... dude.

good luck (serious)

[nads786]

this thread keeps on delivering

[spirit3530]

this thread keeps on delivering

What happened to this thread?.

[BluntD]

Diesel Mang

He's a force and he knows it. But his place at the upper eschelon of various bodybuildng forums across the net has caused him to be full of more hot air than a spicy mexican food restaurant on a friday night. He's usually 235+ and lean. He might be on some "assistance" as well.

You will see him chime into threads with such comments as "if you really want to get bi's like mine" or "once your done playing and start moving some heavy weight you might have quads like these" along with a quick pic of his spectacular (insert here) muscle group. Diesel Mang has got the goods but he could be a little less of an ass and a little more helpful to those that look up to him for advice on how he achieved his goals.

[img]http://www.tradeshop.com/BlackHearted/image/full-of-****.jpg[/img]









False Forum Stat Guy

This is the guy that seems to know hundreds of thousands of members on bb.com. He is the omega you might say. Why? Because everytime he gets into a debate with others here he pulls out **** stats straight out of his ass in lieu of this forum. You've seen him make statements such as "better than 95% of this forum", "bigger than 80% of this forum", "leaner than 75% of this forum."

No one knows where he has attained these all knowing figures nor do we know how has he seen every single member on this forum to command such lofty statements. But somehow False Stat Forum Guy will keep throwing them out there trying to see how many licks does it take to get to the center of a bb.com sucker who falls for his baseless and factless claims.

The "Barry Bonds" Obvious Juicer



This guy will constantly deny any steroid use, rant and rave about the evils of juicing, but everyone knows that he didn't get those muscles using Cell-Tech alone. Often, he was apart of some transformation contest and went from being a relative nobody to looking like a seasoned pro bb'er in months. We all know you're juicing, just admit it!

How do you know you are dealing with The Obvious Juicer?
-Denies any allegations with a religious fervor and gets extremely angry

-Went from a 130 lb shrimp to a 250+ monster in an unbelievable time

-Knows very little about body building...Ask him about his diet, and he eats "Whatever I feel like, but I try to eat healthy." Ask him about his workout, "I just go to the gym and train whatever muscle I feel like for 3 hours"

-He trains every day for more than 2 hours, that's not counting cardio!

No doubt this thread delivers. We've got multiple BB.com characters all rolled into one. And I'm sure I'm still missing a few!

[ZzW3iZ]

this thread flew so far of course it's not even funny....well actually it is pretty entertaining. carry on

[mjw8204]

No doubt this thread delivers. We've got multiple BB.com characters all rolled into one. And I'm sure I'm still missing a few!

I cited the One Upper and Fecal McAngry in the links above.

[gjohnson5]

this thread flew so far of course it's not even funny....well actually it is pretty entertaining. carry on

I agree
This has been entertaining
I do want to see the 55lb of lean mass achieved in a year though.

[CloudSurfer]

.

What happened was a bunch of gurus like that leverone guy whatever his sn is came in on his high horse

then self rightrous all knowing Mr. Gargani came in essentially demonizing steroids....and judging me b/c I want to taken them.

Then all these dudes with weird avi's like that guy showing his knee, whatever that is, and this dude who had so much acne on his back it looked like he was using 3,000 miliigrams of test a week and washing his back with olive oil.

And of course you have Dominik the guy acts like he is a ripped sliced n diced at 275....delusional should be his sn ...the hating started well efore I said I will look better than Hola in a year....it pretty much started as soon as I posted my routine....and even continued after I said probably like 10 times that its not for everyone.

All this thread illustrates is the sheer bulk of haters, wannabe gurus, closeminded, negative, and envious insecure people on bb.com.

So I started defending myself like anyone would and this is how we came to this ****.

[LevroneFan2002]

So what I criticized hola Bola who gives a **** he has weaknesses that need to be adressed when comparing bodies yea he has better legs at the moment.

So why are you getting angry when I address YOUR weakness of legs, and say that your back training needs some lower back work? That's just the same as you commenting on Hola. So what's the big deal? I haven't given advice to anyone, I haven't written out any routines, I haven't claimed anything. You are claiming to be the next big thing though. I haven't.

BTW, you joined Jan 2007. You've been training for (at least) 2 years IMO.

[Defiant1]

What happened was a bunch of gurus like that leverone guy whatever his sn is came in on his high horse

then self rightrous all knowing Mr. Gargani came in essentially demonizing steroids....and judging me b/c I want to taken them.

Then all these dudes with weird avi's like that guy showing his knee, whatever that is, and this dude who had so much acne on his back it looked like he was using 3,000 miliigrams of test a week and washing his back with olive oil.

And of course you have Dominik the guy acts like he is a ripped sliced n diced at 275....delusional should be his sn ...the hating started well efore I said I will look better than Hola in a year....it pretty much started as soon as I posted my routine....and even continued after I said probably like 10 times that its not for everyone.

All this thread illustrates is the sheer bulk of haters, wannabe gurus, closeminded, negative, and envious insecure people on bb.com.

So I started defending myself like anyone would and this is how we came to this ****.

Dude you are making me look like an ass because I was defending you.

I am all for your training style, and your enthusiasm.

The site needs more bodybuilding bodybuilders, as opposed to the armchair or lazy experts we get on here so much...

but you are attacking the very people who would agree with you in terms of training etc. John Gargani was just trying to be helpful. He was speaking from experience. Thick as a Brick, Dominik, etc are ALL ABOUT the way you train.


I understand having to defend yourself, but make sure you are defending yourself from the right people. It's like you were cool and collected, then suddenly closed your eyes and started throwing punches.

[CloudSurfer]

meh i rather just do a few sets of heavy dips and go home

that workout looks like a hell of a waste of time

It all started with Mr. Army kid

2g/lb of body weight is way too much protein. Extra amino acids are turned into urea to leave the body, and the rest are combined with carbon and oxygen and stored as fat. NASM did a very in depth study on protein requirements for bodybuilders and found it to be much less than the (arbitrary?) lifter's recommendation of 2g/lb. I will try and find the article.

Then Mr. Nasm came in

I will also add to this thread that while your 5 sets of each movement are consistent with hypertrophy (getting a (big chest)) the volume is not. You would want to break up that routine to three days throughout the week to total the same volume you're using for one day. The split volume builds mass. Doing that many reps with heavy weight is not the best way to build mass.

Then Mr. Nasm started giving me advice which is what annoyed me...

All i do for chest is 5x5 incline + flat Barbell and i think my chest is my best bodypart

Then the 5x5 kids started chiming

Yes that's the thing, I mean you can do lots of volume but is it really going to be bigger or look different? When the muscle fibres are worn down they are worn down, and after a few sets it really is dimishing returns because your strength will just go lower and lower with each set anyway.

And to the OP, I don't mind the routine and I think your pics are pretty good, but bare in mind there are monsters who will just do 2 exercises for chest and not that many sets, but with great intensity. 6', 180 lbs does not mean to chuck out science to be fair.

And then of course how can we forget LevroeFan Somebody give this dude an award....he started knocking on my height and weight...saying that I think I reach a pinnacle in training and that I ignore science....dumbass didn't even look at how long I've been training.....this fool needs ot post a pic

so how do I get a big chest?

And then we hace this funny aussie highjackin the thread eggin me cuz he is bored....and many more throughout the thread just look...

[CloudSurfer]

Dude you are making me look like an ass because I was defending you.

I am all for your training style, and your enthusiasm.

The site needs more bodybuilding bodybuilders, as opposed to the armchair or lazy experts we get on here so much...

but you are attacking the very people who would agree with you in terms of training etc. John Gargani was just trying to be helpful. He was speaking from experience. Thick as a Brick, Dominik, etc are ALL ABOUT the way you train.


I understand having to defend yourself, but make sure you are defending yourself from the right people. It's like you were cool and collected, then suddenly closed your eyes and started throwing punches.

Dude everynone started asking me if I'm juicing or accusing me and as soon as I tated the truth and plans that I want to juice at 200lbs Mr. Gargani came in judging like OMG thats so bad and they are so evil and they're illegal....dude didn't even know me or where I live.

I hate shyt like that.....then Dominik came in has not said 1 positive post about me probably didn't even bother to read th thread to see what this **** is even about....whatever

[Defiant1]

It all started with Mr. Army kid



Then Mr. Nasm came in

Then Mr. Nasm started giving me advice which is what annoyed me...

Then the 5x5 kids started chiming

And then of course how can we forget LevroeFan Somebody give this dude an award....he started knocking on my height and weight...saying that I think I reach a pinnacle in training and that I ignore science....dumbass didn't even look at how long I've been training.....this fool needs ot post a pic



And then we hace this funny aussie highjackin the thread eggin me cuz he is bored....and many more throughout the thread just look...

I agree.

But you are now calling out Hola Bola, arguing with Dominik and others. Hola Bola trains his ass off with high volume and has good results. Dominik trains for strength and size but has done high volume with good results. Spirit competes. Thick as a Brick is all about bodybuilding training, as I am.

I understand it's frustrating dealing with all the non-bodybuilding bull**** on here.

But you are arguing with some people who would likely be your biggest supporters.

[LevroneFan2002]

I agree.

But you are now calling out Hola Bola, arguing with Dominik and others. Hola Bola trains his ass off with high volume and has good results. Dominik trains for strength and size but has done high volume with good results. Thick as a Brick is all about bodybuilding training, as I am.

I understand it's frustrating dealing with all the non-bodybuilding bull**** on here.

But you are arguing with some people who would likely be your biggest supporters.

Yes I agree, Cloud Surfer thinks I'm against him even though all I've said is the trade off between intensity and high volume, and that he needs to work on his legs and lower back. He thinks that I don't think he has potential or whatever, yet I haven't commented on that.

[Defiant1]

Yes I agree, Cloud Surfer thinks I'm against him even though all I've said is the trade off between intensity and high volume, and that he needs to work on his legs and lower back. He thinks that I don't think he has potential or whatever, yet I haven't commented on that.

Quiet.


The bodybuilders are talking.

[LevroneFan2002]

The bodybuilders are talking.

LOL. You and Surfer are not bodybuilders. To be a bodybuilder you need to have a great physique and be competing in shows.

The only guy in this thread who could claim to possibly be a bodybuilder, is Hola Bola.

[Defiant1]

My Mom says I'm cool.

that's nice

[LevroneFan2002]

that's nice

You're 44 and posting on forums all day, you think you're a bodybuilder as well despite having no physique and not competing in shows ...



^^^ And this guy with zero legs development, which is half the body, is telling everyone he's going to be the next big thing. He also says he's trained for 8 months, yet joined in Jan '07.

I'm done in this thread. Maybe you and Cloudsurfer should train with Ronnie Coleman, see whether he agrees that you two are bodybuilders.

The difference with me, is I post no pics, and claim nothing, so therefore it's all good. I don't big myself up like Mr Surfer. I leave it down to you guys to embarass yourselves with pics and 'bodybuilders' talk. It's amusing.

[Defiant1]

I accidently worked part of my biceps today doing hammer curls and am really pissed

might want to see a doctor

[LevroneFan2002]

might want to see a doctor

Since you claim to be a bodybuilder, can we see pics of your physique? You're 44, so you must have been training for 20 odd years. Maybe you can teach 21 year old kids like me what real bodybuilding is about, after all we are just beginners.

Ok? And with 30, 000 posts of top knowledge, you must know what you're doing, so no excuses.

[Defiant1]

I'm getting really angry now.

u.....


furious?

[LevroneFan2002]

Wow defiant1 is not only 44 years old and isn't a bodybuilder despite telling us he is, but he spends his whole day on forums acting like a child.

I'm done in this thread defiant1, you can talk to Cloudsurfer about how you two will become professional bodybuilders and laugh at mere mortals like me. At age 44 with 20 odd years training, you must be a monster by now.

30, 000 posts lol, aged 44, and not 1 photo to back up his claim of being a bodybuilder. BB.com at it's best.

Bye x

[Defiant1]

I'M REALLY PISSED!! YOU ARE FORCING ME TO RECRUIT MUSCLES OTHER THAN MY BRACHIORADIALIS WHEN DOING REVERSE CURLS!! I'LL SUE!!

u.....


recruiting the wrong muscles?

[spirit3530]

What happened was a bunch of gurus like that leverone guy whatever his sn is came in on his high horse

then self rightrous all knowing Mr. Gargani came in essentially demonizing steroids....and judging me b/c I want to taken them.

Then all these dudes with weird avi's like that guy showing his knee, whatever that is, and this dude who had so much acne on his back it looked like he was using 3,000 miliigrams of test a week and washing his back with olive oil.

And of course you have Dominik the guy acts like he is a ripped sliced n diced at 275....delusional should be his sn ...the hating started well efore I said I will look better than Hola in a year....it pretty much started as soon as I posted my routine....and even continued after I said probably like 10 times that its not for everyone.

All this thread illustrates is the sheer bulk of haters, wannabe gurus, closeminded, negative, and envious insecure people on bb.com.

So I started defending myself like anyone would and this is how we came to this ****.