Official Russia vs Ukraine Thread V- The winter is coming: A tale of stupid sanctions

[LukeLissen]

Joe biden 1997: the one thing that would provoke russia is nato expansion into ukraine

You must not have watched the video

lmao back when grandpa joe had a brain

nor you

(it's not about Ukraine comments)

but regardless of the video not being about comments about Ukraine,

It was also before the psycho mass murdering mafia clown Putin and his FSB buddies bombed apartment buildings in Russia to boost him into office, and before Putin mass murdered his way into staying in power for 23 years, and it was instead when Russia seemed like it might be on the path to being a reliable partner instead

[Phil9]

no, but if the Russian Soldiers surrender, they face up to 10 years in jail. https://www.rt.com/russia/563464-put...ers-surrender/

In which case they will probably prefer just getting shot.

[PutinItInYoGirl]

You must not have watched the video




nor you

(it's not about Ukraine comments)

but regardless of the video not being about comments about Ukraine,

It was also before the psycho mass murdering mafia clown Putin and his FSB buddies bombed apartment buildings in Russia to boost him into office, and before Putin mass murdered his way into staying in power for 23 years, and it was instead when Russia seemed like it might be on the path to being a reliable partner instead

It's about NATO expansion and how it would be viewed. How Putin secures power in Russia is his own business. What matters to American interests and humanity is the prevention of WW3. Putin could murder as many Russians as he needs to as long as it doesn't get everyone killed. If you don't have the heart to see that, then you can't analyze geopolitics with any level of responsibility. You'll get everyone killed to try to save a few people who will die anyway. It's a chit world. Srs. If you try to insist on morality in geopolitics, you're going to kill everyone in your crusades. Most governments are quite literally mafias. You're a coddled American who lives in a country that has never been catastrophically invaded and doesn't have tons of armed belligerents seeking to tear it apart. Russians and Chinese do not have that luxury. Their politics are a bloody and dirty business.

Every American argument always goes right back to "BUT THEY ARE BAD!!".

So what? A lot of people are bad. Live with it. Fighting the good fight will get more people killed.

[miscinbro]

It's about NATO expansion and how it would be viewed. How Putin secures power in Russia is his own business. What matters to American interests and humanity is the prevention of WW3. Putin could murder as many Russians as he needs to as long as it doesn't get everyone killed. If you don't have the heart to see that, then you can't analyze geopolitics with any level of responsibility. You'll get everyone killed to try to save a few people who will die anyway.

WWIII? Fcking LMAO, world war with whom? Russia is getting humiliated attacking Ukraine with hand-me-down Western weapons.

[Phil9]

WWIII? Fcking LMAO, world war with whom? Russia is getting humiliated attacking Ukraine with hand-me-down Western weapons.

Russia is too shy to ever say it out loud but they supposedly have nukes which apparently means they can do anything.

[eternalnoob]

WWIII? Fcking LMAO, world war with whom? Russia is getting humiliated attacking Ukraine with hand-me-down Western weapons.

Holy **** you clowns are still going with the 'Russia is losing' narrative?

Wow.

[LukeLissen]

more Dagestan resistance


https://twitter.com/justartsndstuff/...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/st...rc=twsrc%5Etfw



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[PutinItInYoGirl]

WWIII? Fcking LMAO, world war with whom? Russia is getting humiliated attacking Ukraine with hand-me-down Western weapons.

Your arrogance and ignorance is astonishing. Our own nuclear deterrence experts can vouch for Russia's capabilities. Don't confuse a botched conventional op with impotence in WMD usage. Russia has a formidable arsenal -- the most formidable on this planet.

[Stizzel]

“Holding ground, losing war”: The American Conservative writes that Zelensky’s strategy to defend territories at any cost turned into a disaster for Ukraine.

“Washington is trying to turn the ruins of the Ukrainian state into an open, unhealed wound right next to Russia. From the very beginning, the problem with this approach was that Russia always had the resources to escalate the fighting dramatically and end the fighting in Ukraine on very harsh terms. And this escalation is already underway. Washington is faced with a stark choice: declare its surrender in Ukraine and scale back its activities, or risk a regional war with Russia that will engulf Europe…”

You must not have watched the video

Why lie all the time?

[LukeLissen]

Why lie all the time?

So in other words you're hearing things that aren't there.

That video does not reference Ukraine.

[PutinItInYoGirl]

At the end of the day, creepy Joe will bitch out. He didn't put troops on the ground. He doesn't want this fight. America is throwing its weight around, but if Russia stands firm and hard commits, they can win this thing.

[PutinItInYoGirl]

So in other words you're hearing things that aren't there.

That video does not reference Ukraine.

It references NATO expansion. The idea of trying to bring Ukraine into NATO was unthinkable and laughable in 1997.

[Phil9]

It references NATO expansion. The idea of trying to bring Ukraine into NATO was unthinkable and laughable in 1997.

Which Putin can pretty much be blamed for.

[miscinbro]

Which Putin can pretty much be blamed for.

Don’t forget Finland and Sweden.

Lol.

[PutinItInYoGirl]

Which Putin can pretty much be blamed for.

So are we just going to ignore Nuland's, Klobuchar's, McCain's, and Graham's visits where they supported the rebels? Are we going to ignore the NED (CIA) efforts in Ukraine? Are we going to ignore Nuland's leaked call where she discussed the future leadership of Ukraine and said verbatim "Fuk the EU" regarding their concerns? Hmm...This was all pre-annexation btw. Remember when William Burns (now director of the CIA) said bringing Ukraine into NATO was the brightest of red lines back in 2008 in diplomatic cables released by wikileaks?

Oof. I guess the clock starts at 2014 for you guys, right? Or is it 2022?

Putin is doing exactly what one could reasonably expect him to do. We orchestrated this. The goal is regime change in Russia.

[Stizzel]

So in other words you're hearing things that aren't there.

That video does not reference Ukraine.

[yabbayabba]

Damn, retard crew pulled out an audible today. Would have never guessed the cope today would be which sides Twitter posts were propaganda or not.

[memcop]

you can trust the mapping at these two places if you wanna keep up with accurate mapping. They've proven themselves as correct as correct gets this entire year.

https://twitter.com/war_mapper

https://militaryland.net/tag/maps/

as far as the rest of it, you either develop deep knowledge of trustworthy current events and osint sources or wait for the book to come out after the war.

osint

Hey OSINTLUKE, how about my estimates? There was a reason I asked for yours. I never saw an answer and along with this thread, there will be a book after the war.

So if you are indeed watching and have "deep knowledge" of the war, again, what are your casualty estimates?

You know as well as I this is about to fall apart in any conceivable direction.

[chalup]

osint

Hey OSINTLUKE, how about my estimates? There was a reason I asked for yours. I never saw an answer and along with this thread, there will be a book after the war.

So if you are indeed watching and have "deep knowledge" of the war, again, what are your casualty estimates?

You know as well as I this is about to fall apart in any conceivable direction.

WTF does this post even mean lmao.

[PutinItInYoGirl]

WTF does this post even mean lmao.

It means chit is about to hit the fan in Ukraine.

[memcop]

WTF does this post even mean lmao.

It's gone down how I've called it each and every step of the way to include war dead counts.

He seemingly doesn't want his on record.

[miscinbro]

It's gone down how I've called it each and every step of the way to include war dead counts.

He seemingly doesn't want his on record.

Ohhhh yea, this is totally how you called it all along.

[ujelly]

Reading through this thread is so funny, you got guys thinking russia is doing so well and winning then you got guys on the other hand who think ghost of khiv is winning. In the end its just a messy ass war. Poor planning on russias behalf. They are banking on Europe caving this winter with high energy prices. That was not the plan in the beginning otherwise they would have invaded around now, not 7 months ago. Ukraine is barley hanging on , only because the west is giving them just enough weapons to hang in there. Russia has proved they are still in the stone age and haven't advanced in 50 years.

Russia hanging on to the only winning hand they have and that's starving europe of natural gas means we are about to be In this mess for another 7 months at least. Just a long drawn out mess.

[memcop]

Reading through this thread is so funny, you got guys thinking russia is doing so well and winning then you got guys on the other hand who think ghost of khiv is winning. In the end its just a messy ass war. Poor planning on russias behalf. They are banking on Europe caving this winter with high energy prices. That was not the plan in the beginning otherwise they would have invaded around now, not 7 months ago. Ukraine is barley hanging on , only because the west is giving them just enough weapons to hang in there. Russia has proved they are still in the stone age and haven't advanced in 50 years.

Russia hanging on to the only winning hand they have and that's starving europe of natural gas means we are about to be In this mess for another 7 months at least. Just a long drawn out mess.

So what your saying is the inevitable was delayed and any additional Eurofukery was self inflicted?

And no there will not be another 7 months unless there's a reason Russia would want to or need it to drag. There's no reason a troop surge and another and 3rd offer at peace won't be offered this winter.

I'm most amazed at pro WEF/Globalist/Karen agenda miscers who have talked a good game over several multaccounts but in the end proven they are mentally ill posers without principles.

We meddled and fuked off white people this time. It's the only difference I see.

I'll correct you on the invading now to impact fuel prices. That's way too much to unpack and not how it works that's a 6-12 month forecast.

[memcop]

Ohhhh yea, this is totally how you called it all along.

Feel free to prove otherwise.

Hundreds of posts to chose from. Pick one or a dozen. Up to you

[phaginator]

Holy **** you clowns are still going with the 'Russia is losing' narrative?

Wow.

Okay retard, how is Russia winning when they're literally losing more and more land every day in Ukraine?

[AlwaysFocus]

Okay retard, how is Russia winning when they're literally losing more and more land every day in Ukraine?

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Why doesnt Ukriane expel Russia?

[phaginator]

The "counter-offensives" in Kherson & Kharkov have become catastrophic disasters. The Ukrainian's third attempt to take Liman was repulsed with horrific losses of men and equipment. AFU Version 2.0 is being destroyed faster than was Ver. 1.0.

Quoted for future ownage

Vatniks when will they learn?

In other news; even Serbia doesn't recognize the sham referendums...

https://rs.n1info.com/vesti/selakovi...ma-u-ukrajini/

Where's the serbcuck that posts here?

Also thanks to Russia for being the biggest arms supplier of Ukraine:

[phaginator]

Why doesnt Ukriane expel Russia?

Why doesn't Russia capture Kiev? 2 more weeks?

Lmfao keep coping Justin Trudeau, Lyman is being liberated from the rus as we speak.

[PimpinisEasy]

A lot of you guys need to realise that you're arguing with a specific type of American; these people have both a low IQ while having astronomical levels of arrogance. They see this as some sort of team sport, where they;re cheering on their side.

That's the level of stupidity you're dealing with here. No matter how many times you tell them the US had engineered this situation, they'll be happy, because they think their side is winning.

You're making rational observartons, but you're dealing with complete idiots.