My jabs have both been JnJ, so just one then a booster, but I also got Covid Omicron/common cold variant this winter. The virus was definitely worse than either of the jab side effects. First jab, felt like a mild flu the next day (achey, low grade fever, etc.) then woke up perfectly fine the next day. Booster jab, just had some fatigue and a slight headache for a day.
For omicron, the two worst symptoms were a bad sore throat and joint pain (not just aches, my joints fukking hurt). I had one day where the joint pain and general fatigue were so bad that I had to take a day off and just stay in bed. Overall, the sore throat lasted 3 or 4 days, and the joint pain 2 or 3, with one being far worse than the others. Within a week, I tested negative again and felt fine. I have had no lingering effects. I feel fortunate that I (and my family) avoided the virus until it mutated into the nasty cold version instead of the original with the breathing issues and loss of smell/taste. My wife is prone to migraines, and it triggered her migraines pretty bad for a couple days. My kids barely even knew they had it.
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Thread: Will you get vaccinated?
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04-12-2022, 08:55 AM #6721
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04-12-2022, 09:02 AM #6722
Philly just re-instituted the mask mandate based on their "metrics". It's a bunch of BS though. The metrics are based on case counts, but the omicron and BA2 versions aren't generating severe cases, so the hospitalization is currently very low despite a rise in the case count. It's time to forget about this crap and just treat it when it happens. Nothing covid related is going to overrun hospitals or anything now (and that was the original intent of the lockdowns and other restrictions). The county where I live currently has 8 c19-positive hospital cases and 1 in ICU, in what is one of the top 5 most populous counties in PA. That's nothing, especially considering that a lot of the "hospitalized" covid patients since the start of the omicron wave are people who got it in the hospital who came for something else. That wasn't the case at the beginning of the pandemic because everything else was canceled and the virus was much more severe, but omicron is so contagious but mild that no one is actually coming to the hospital because of covid anymore.
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04-12-2022, 12:59 PM #6723
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04-14-2022, 08:48 AM #6724
Aww dam, the guy who is correct on most things just said.... "this virus isn't done with us"
At 2% i thought we were finished.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...s-jump-60.htmlThere is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!
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04-19-2022, 09:56 AM #6725
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04-19-2022, 09:58 AM #6726
not that i am aware of.
Watch the latest video and stop it at 49 seconds.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/covid-19-daily-video
At the worst were at a positivity rate of 30% with over a million cases per day,
Now at 4%(was 2% a week ago) with about 33,000 cases per day.
Deaths are way way down from 2,000 a day to 400 +/-Last edited by x-trainer ben; 04-19-2022 at 10:04 AM.
There is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!
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04-19-2022, 11:47 AM #6727
One of the women posting on this thread got pretty sick after her second shot, but I'm blanking on who that was (sorry). Also, I think she got better.
Tough for anyone to answer since you haven't given an example or explanation of what you consider long standing sequelae.Could you define ______ for me, please?
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04-19-2022, 11:58 AM #6728
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04-19-2022, 12:23 PM #6729
I'm concerned because I have a family trip to Europe planned for June. I have an 18 year old son (athlete) who has never taken the needle. COVID ran through our family in December. It hit me hard and I recovered. It hit my wife very mildly. She took the needle for her job. My son barely had the sniffles.
The risk for a young, healthy athlete to take this unvetted concoction outweighs any scientific benefit I see. As for me, I have natural immunity for a few months longer, barring a milder variant I might contract.
Ridiculous.Envy is ignorance. Imitation is suicide.
-----R. W. Emerson
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04-19-2022, 12:25 PM #6730𝓐𝓲𝓻 𝓕𝓸𝓻𝓬𝓮 𝓥𝓮𝓽𝓮𝓻𝓪𝓷 1976 - 1999 - 𝓒𝓪𝓷𝓷𝓪𝓫𝓲𝓼 𝓔𝓷𝓽𝓱𝓾𝓼𝓲𝓪𝓼𝓽 𝓼𝓲𝓷𝓬𝓮 𝓽𝓱𝓮 1960'𝓼
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04-19-2022, 12:52 PM #6731
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04-19-2022, 02:00 PM #6732
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04-19-2022, 02:43 PM #6733
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04-20-2022, 06:48 AM #6734
That's an excellent question, and unfortunately, we don't have enough data to know if Omicron or the most recent variants have a lower risk of causing myocarditis. Early data seems to show a lower risk of severe cardiac complications, but that doesn't necessarily apply that to myocarditis in younger patients. It does mean we'll see less older patients with it going to the hospitals since a lot of those patients showed up when they were very ill. That also doesn't mean it is causing less mild myocarditis, it just means the front line docs won't see it.
Unfortunately, myocarditis in young patients won't necessarily track that so it'll be a while before we can figure it out. Without something like that focused article in JAMA about the big 10 athletes, I think it'll be another year before we know. Also, I'm not recommending KeepItMoving's son get vaccinated, I'm just pointing out what the relative risk data has shown us so far. I think the risk of getting sick and having to quarantine in Europe ruining their trip is higher than the risk of myocarditis from either the vaccine or the virus. I'll be wearing an N95 mask during my flights tomorrow because of that, and also because I'm visiting someone who is immune compromised.Could you define ______ for me, please?
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04-21-2022, 08:30 AM #6735
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04-21-2022, 12:20 PM #6736𝓐𝓲𝓻 𝓕𝓸𝓻𝓬𝓮 𝓥𝓮𝓽𝓮𝓻𝓪𝓷 1976 - 1999 - 𝓒𝓪𝓷𝓷𝓪𝓫𝓲𝓼 𝓔𝓷𝓽𝓱𝓾𝓼𝓲𝓪𝓼𝓽 𝓼𝓲𝓷𝓬𝓮 𝓽𝓱𝓮 1960'𝓼
ᖇᗴ丅Ꭵᖇᗴᗪ ᗩ丅 40 ᑕᖇᗴᗯ - ᔕᗝᑕᎥᗩᒪ ᗪᎥᔕ丅ᗩᑎᑕᎥᑎǤ ᗴ᙭ᑭᗴᖇ丅 - ᒪᎥᐯᎥᑎǤ 丅ᕼᗴ ᗪᖇᗴᗩᗰ
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04-21-2022, 06:20 PM #6737
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04-25-2022, 06:24 AM #6738
So you hear about long Covid but knowing what that actually means is hard to find.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/art...r-implications
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/e...cesectitle0048There is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!
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04-27-2022, 11:13 AM #6739
Just the fact that the risk of myocarditis, embolisms, etc. is proof enough to me that we just don't have a handle on the risks associated with the needle, primarily because Trump rushed this concoction through before it could be appropriately tested. (I know, you disagree) Just the fact that we now know that the shot does not prevent contracting or transmitting the virus is, again, proof enough for me to know that we lack appropriate information about this concoction. Additionally, the fact that there is no legal recourse against the manufacturers is enough to know how much we don't know about the shot so many have had injected into themselves.
I wouldn't be so concerned except for the fact that so many have been coerced into getting these shots. Again, we will disagree, but I do not trust the completeness of the reporting about how high the actual numbers are of those who have developed cardiac issues and/or died as a result of getting these shots. Therefore, I do not buy into the premise that a person's risks from cardiac complications and/or death are 6X higher from contracting the virus than from getting the shots.
Protect the known high risk population and allow the rest to decide for themselves.Envy is ignorance. Imitation is suicide.
-----R. W. Emerson
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04-27-2022, 12:11 PM #6740
"TYPICAL TIMELINE"
"A typical vaccine development timeline takes ***5 to 10 years, and sometimes longer***, to assess whether the vaccine is safe and efficacious in clinical trials, complete the regulatory approval processes, and manufacture sufficient quantity of vaccine doses for widespread distribution."
But....... in severe situations (sudden death)........
ACCELERATED TIMELINE IN A PANDEMIC
"Some clinical trial phases are combined
Cases accumulate rapidly to assess vaccine efficacy because of the pandemic
Manufacturing capacity is scaled up during the clinical trials but at financial risk."
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/vaccines/timelineThere is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!
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05-07-2022, 06:02 AM #6741
We have the covid again. Wife tested positive but had no symptoms, son tested positive had the sniffles for a day, I tested positive and had a 102 fever for a few days, body aches, night sweats etc etc (flu like). I’m the only one vaccinated, had by far the worst symptoms. Now the J&J is being largely removed because it’s not as safe as I was told….not effective either.
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05-07-2022, 06:30 AM #6742
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05-07-2022, 06:41 AM #6743
It was short duration, started feeling better after the fever. My wife tested positive and had symptoms last January (likely omicron) she had nothing this time. I’m fine now after a lot of sleeping. Our cases in my area are rising quickly, I think half of my sons class was out. Seems pretty mild for unvaccinated people…
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05-07-2022, 07:06 AM #6744
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05-07-2022, 12:38 PM #6745
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05-07-2022, 03:27 PM #6746
The dip from 30% down to 2% and now 6%.
This thing being mild for the masses so it wouldn't be reported much unless you went to a hospital or a testing facility which are mostly gone here.
The count would be so low or so off....that few would know the true numbers.There is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!
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05-07-2022, 03:40 PM #6747
I took the needle today. Pfizer. I get another needle at the end of May. My left shoulder is sore at the injection site. We'll se tomorrow. I already had COVID. It was a tough slog. I lost 33lbs; no hospitalization. I'm being forced into this because of a desire to travel internationally. This sucks.
https://100percentfedup.com/vaccinat...racting-covid/Last edited by KeepItMoving; 05-07-2022 at 03:54 PM.
Envy is ignorance. Imitation is suicide.
-----R. W. Emerson
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05-07-2022, 07:18 PM #6748
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05-07-2022, 07:43 PM #6749
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05-08-2022, 10:09 AM #6750𝓐𝓲𝓻 𝓕𝓸𝓻𝓬𝓮 𝓥𝓮𝓽𝓮𝓻𝓪𝓷 1976 - 1999 - 𝓒𝓪𝓷𝓷𝓪𝓫𝓲𝓼 𝓔𝓷𝓽𝓱𝓾𝓼𝓲𝓪𝓼𝓽 𝓼𝓲𝓷𝓬𝓮 𝓽𝓱𝓮 1960'𝓼
ᖇᗴ丅Ꭵᖇᗴᗪ ᗩ丅 40 ᑕᖇᗴᗯ - ᔕᗝᑕᎥᗩᒪ ᗪᎥᔕ丅ᗩᑎᑕᎥᑎǤ ᗴ᙭ᑭᗴᖇ丅 - ᒪᎥᐯᎥᑎǤ 丅ᕼᗴ ᗪᖇᗴᗩᗰ
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