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    Originally Posted by YoungMetro24 View Post
    Buckeyes by 25. They will break all teasers on Wisconsin’s spread. Enjoy losing your money.
    This. Buckeyes will have this wrapped by half. Theyre better than the team that spanked them 59-0 a few years ago. Plus theyre playing for the right to keep the #1 seed. This game wont be close.
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    Originally Posted by LiveOnce View Post
    This will be a tight, 1-2 possession game.
    Hey guy I agree. Last time they played in the Championship 2 years ago it came down to the last possession. This time we can throw some balls to q down the stretch with time running down since he doesn't have a broken leg and isn't in court.
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    Originally Posted by W1LLW View Post
    You say that in jest, but whoever they do play it'll be a similar outcome.

    I find their current ranking flat out funny, like legitimately. Game with LSU was a single score game. Then they lose a game to auburn (on the road), among a host of retardation: back up qb on first road start, botched field goal, etc. And they throw them out of the top 10 for no other reason than Auburn having 3 losses lol okay. On that logic Oklahoma should be way further down on the list holding an L from unranked KSU.

    Alabama didn't earn the right to make it into the playoff this year, and i fully believe that. But if we brewing real stew, there is not a single team in the top 10 you'd bet your house on to beat Bama tomorrow. Whereas there's at least 3 teams i'd bet mortgage and first born son to beat utah, florida, wisconsin, and penn state
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    Originally Posted by Mumra View Post
    I'd bet on the top 4 beating Bama'.
    Ohio State and LSU are the only teams I'd bet on to beat bama with certainty with Clemson being a possible since we really just don't know how good they actually are yet. And that is all with a backup QB. Sure they lost to Auburn but that is a rivalry game
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    Originally Posted by TBO1313 View Post
    Ohio State and LSU are the only teams I'd bet on to beat bama with certainty with Clemson being a possible since we really just don't know how good they actually are yet. And that is all with a backup QB. Sure they lost to Auburn but that is a rivalry game

    Fun fact, Clemson is #1/#2 defense in the land (practically tied with tOSU) with a top 5 offense. You’re telling me Clemson couldn’t stop or score on Bama? LSU is ranked in the 70’s if you take away their game against their 3 cupcake games. I hope you do bet your money against Clemson.
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    Originally Posted by DeshaunWatson View Post
    Fun fact, Clemson is #1/#2 defense in the land (practically tied with tOSU) with a top 5 offense. You’re telling me Clemson couldn’t stop or score on Bama? LSU is ranked in the 70’s if you take away their game against their 3 cupcake games. I hope you do bet your money against Clemson.
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    Originally Posted by TBO1313 View Post
    Ohio State and LSU are the only teams I'd bet on to beat bama with certainty with Clemson being a possible since we really just don't know how good they actually are yet. And that is all with a backup QB. Sure they lost to Auburn but that is a rivalry game
    They're undefeated and reigning Champions. They just got done beating SC 38-3 on the road, the same team that won at georgia. They're #1 in points allowed and #4 in points scored. I think we have some idea.
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    How has their defense performed against ranked teams?
    Gave up 3 points to texas AM with their 1st string. I’d say that’s pretty good
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    Gave up 3 points to texas AM with their 1st string. I’d say that’s pretty good
    Oh, I said ranked teams.
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    Oh, I said ranked teams.
    acc may suck but that didn't seem to bother them last year as they outscored their playoff opponents 74-19. Then again, this year we'll have a team from #1 conference.
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    acc may suck but that didn't seem to bother them last year as they outscored their playoff opponents 74-19. Then again, this year we'll have a team from #1 conference.
    I believe Clemson is a top 3 team and I have no interest in facing them in the first rd. I just like to give dangled **** and don’t agree with him throwing out stats when his team has faced significantly easier competition.
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    Oh, I said ranked teams.
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    I believe Clemson is a top 3 team and I have no interest in facing them in the first rd. I just like to give dangled **** and don’t agree with him throwing out stats when his team has faced significantly easier competition.
    I agree. Clemson, Ohio State, Wisconsin (in no particular order).
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    I agree. Clemson, Ohio State, Wisconsin (in no particular order).
    The badgers are going to look like Wisconsin eau Claire on Saturday
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    Oh, I said ranked teams.
    It’s funny because they’re not ranked
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    I'm glad it's Friday night and not crammed into Saturday's lineup.
    Agreed. Wish they had 2 big games Friday night to be honest. but Pac 12 has been playin FRi night games all season. Been good for their exposure overall!
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    I want OSU to win a championship but I don’t want a player getting hurt (especially a former buckeye) to help get us there. I’m also a college football fan and would love to see some of these big matchups in the playoff. When you realize each team has no more than 3 games remaining it’s bittersweet. We have to savor what’s left for as long as we can because it’s fleeting.

    Oklahoma scares me a bit just because of how quickly they can score. We had a few games where we made a dumb mistake or two and couldn’t slam the door shut. The sooners can take advantage of that even if they are outmatched are almost every position. Baylor and Utah won’t be able to match up size wise although I don’t think Utah gets the credit they deserve.

    Agreed with most of this. Yeah, Football season just flies by once you get into November. Bowl games are almost all garbage until Dec. 26th or so . NFL is lame until January playoffs. Sighhh....

    And I don't think Baylor can match up well with any of the top 3 teams. But Texas gave LSU tough game in Austin wayyyy back at the start of the season. The same UT team that Baylor dominated. I know i know, these are very different teams. But Baylor's Def. has been sound ALL season long in a good overall Big 12 conference.

    What do you think Baylor vs. Utah on neutral field would be? Utah 5 point favorite?
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    Agreed with most of this. Yeah, Football season just flies by once you get into November. Bowl games are almost all garbage until Dec. 26th or so . NFL is lame until January playoffs. Sighhh....

    And I don't think Baylor can match up well with any of the top 3 teams. But Texas gave LSU tough game in Austin wayyyy back at the start of the season. The same UT team that Baylor dominated. I know i know, these are very different teams. But Baylor's Def. has been sound ALL season long in a good overall Big 12 conference.

    What do you think Baylor vs. Utah on neutral field would be? Utah 5 point favorite?
    I don’t know. The only time I’ve watched Baylor play was the second half of the Oklahoma game so I don’t think I have a good gauge on your squad. I’d have to give the edge to Utah because I like their defense and think they play a style of game that can show up on the big stage with defense and a solid running game, especially against the big 12. I like both coaches. I’d actually love to see that game rather than the two conference title games.

    I’m hoping Baylor and Utah win. I want the committee’s decision hard enough that we keep the talk about expansion going.
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    I don’t know. The only time I’ve watched Baylor play was the second half of the Oklahoma game so I don’t think I have a good gauge on your squad. I’d have to give the edge to Utah because I like their defense and think they play a style of game that can show up on the big stage with defense and a solid running game, especially against the big 12. I like both coaches. I’d actually love to see that game rather than the two conference title games.

    I’m hoping Baylor and Utah win. I want the committee’s decision hard enough that we keep the talk about expansion going.
    Well if Utah wins, and assuming LSU wins, then Utah will likely get in. If you want chaos for the sake of chaos, then Oregon winning along with Baylor will delight you.

    Why you want the playoff expanded is beyond me, though.

    Once we expand it, again, the regular season, as well as the bowl season, will be meaningless.

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    Well if Utah wins, and assuming LSU wins, then Utah will likely get in. If you want chaos for the sake of chaos, then Oregon winning along with Baylor will delight you.

    Why you want the playoff expanded is beyond me, though.
    I think oklahoma gets in over Utah. They set it up by moving Baylor up to where they did. They will take the brand. Utah and Baylor will set up two very similar resumes with one party feeling they have an equal argument for getting in.

    I just want more transparency in the process and the path to get in. My team benefits from being a top brand but it’s just one giant beauty pageant. None of it makes sense.
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    I think oklahoma gets in over Utah. They set it up by moving Baylor up to where they did. They will take the brand. Utah and Baylor will set up two very similar resumes with one party feeling they have an equal argument for getting in.

    I just want more transparency in the process and the path to get in. My team benefits from being a top brand but it’s just one giant beauty pageant. None of it makes sense.
    I don't know why an OU win over a Baylor team they already defeated (barely) will get them passed Utah over Oregon, when Utah is already ahead of them.

    I don't know where or how this surge for Baylor came from.
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    . They set it up by moving Baylor up to where they did. They will take the brand. Utah and Baylor will set up two very similar resumes with one party feeling they have an equal argument for getting in.
    Wait are you saying the selection committee intentionally raises or lowers teams to set up matches?
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    I don't know why an OU win over a Baylor team they already defeated (barely) will get them passed Utah over Oregon, when Utah is already ahead of them.

    I don't know where or how this surge for Baylor came from.
    I do think oklahoma can gain something from beating Baylor convincingly and controlling the game for 4 quarters. They can gain more (not just by where they are in the standings) than say OSU who already beat Wisconsin convincingly.

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    Wait are you saying the selection committee intentionally raises or lowers teams to set up matches?
    Uh, duh. They are paid handsomely to produce ratings. There is no doubt they want an Oklahoma/OSU matchup in the desert.

    Fun act while on the topic of Oklahoma: did you know they have lost the last 6 playoff/BCS title games? The last time they won one of those was 2000.
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    Uh, duh. They are paid handsomely to produce ratings. There is no doubt they want an Oklahoma/OSU matchup in the desert.
    What makes you say they are payed to produce ratings? Is it because of Alabama?


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    Fun act while on the topic of Oklahoma: did you know they have lost the last 6 playoff/BCS title games? The last time they won one of those was 2000.
    I think if both Utah and Oklahoma win in a similarly played game, Utah gets in.
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    What makes you say they are payed to produce ratings? Is it because of Alabama?




    I think if both Utah and Oklahoma win in a similarly played game, Utah gets in.
    We will revisit on Sunday. While I think Utah is the better team, I think oklahoma gets in based on brand (assuming both teams take care of business in a similar fashion).
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    We will revisit on Sunday. While I think Utah is the better team, I think oklahoma gets in based on brand (assuming both teams take care of business in a similar fashion).


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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    We will revisit on Sunday. While I think Utah is the better team, I think oklahoma gets in based on brand (assuming both teams take care of business in a similar fashion).
    It's a really interesting situation. I know me as a viewer, I would rather see Utah in. It's different. They're going to lose, but so is Oklahoma. I would rather see a new team in it, just as a fan. As far as who's better between Oklahoma and Utah.... who knows? Utah is more balanced, Oklahoma has more firepower. I think they're very close to one another, so I couldn't scream foul if they pick one over the other.

    If they do end up taking Oklahoma because they're Oklahoma, it sends a bad message (maybe one we all already knew anyway); that it doesn't matter if you have similar success, the committee is taking the name. The teams that are going to be in the CFP is already pretty exclusive, but now they'd be saying pretty definitively that a single good season isn't good enough. To be in the CFP you either have to have sustained success over multiple years, or you have to have a single good year and be a historically good team. That's of course if they choose Oklahoma primarily because they're Oklahoma.

    So maybe if next year Utah has another great season they would have a chance. If not, maybe the year after. But if Arizona State (lol yeah right) is 11-1 next year... nope not happening. USC goes 11-1 next year? In.

    Personally I think they have the rankings how they have them precisely so that when the reconvene, they have all options available. People couldn't scream too much if #5 beat a good ranked opponent and just barely kept the edge. If #6 beats #7 and they jump over #5, it wouldn't be surprising. Hell, if somehow Baylor comes out and looks incredible over Oklahoma, #7 beats #6 and jumps #5? Seems the least likely of the scenarios, but it still isn't unrealistic.

    With all the debate, Oregon will just end up winning tonight and ruin any/all mystique surrounding it all. lol.
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    Originally Posted by JMath View Post
    It's a really interesting situation. I know me as a viewer, I would rather see Utah in. It's different. They're going to lose, but so is Oklahoma. I would rather see a new team in it, just as a fan. As far as who's better between Oklahoma and Utah.... who knows? Utah is more balanced, Oklahoma has more firepower. I think they're very close to one another, so I couldn't scream foul if they pick one over the other.

    If they do end up taking Oklahoma because they're Oklahoma, it sends a bad message (maybe one we all already knew anyway); that it doesn't matter if you have similar success, the committee is taking the name. The teams that are going to be in the CFP is already pretty exclusive, but now they'd be saying pretty definitively that a single good season isn't good enough. To be in the CFP you either have to have sustained success over multiple years, or you have to have a single good year and be a historically good team. That's of course if they choose Oklahoma primarily because they're Oklahoma.

    So maybe if next year Utah has another great season they would have a chance. If not, maybe the year after. But if Arizona State (lol yeah right) is 11-1 next year... nope not happening. USC goes 11-1 next year? In.

    Personally I think they have the rankings how they have them precisely so that when the reconvene, they have all options available. People couldn't scream too much if #5 beat a good ranked opponent and just barely kept the edge. If #6 beats #7 and they jump over #5, it wouldn't be surprising. Hell, if somehow Baylor comes out and looks incredible over Oklahoma, #7 beats #6 and jumps #5? Seems the least likely of the scenarios, but it still isn't unrealistic.

    With all the debate, Oregon will just end up winning tonight and ruin any/all mystique surrounding it all. lol.
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    It's a really interesting situation. I know me as a viewer, I would rather see Utah in. It's different. They're going to lose, but so is Oklahoma.
    And this is why I hope Georgia beats LSU in a close game so that this isn't even a discussion. Every year the argument for having a Selection Committee is to put "the 4 best teams in". Yet they've routinely fukedup the selections.

    Remember that time Ohio State lost in a fluke Ezekiel Elliott's last year, and they sent Michigan State in to get curbed stomped by Alabama? Then they tried to right that wrong by putting Ohio State in when they were questionable and Clemson blanked them?



    Ohio State, and LSU are clearly the top two teams this year. Clemson should be in even with a poverty schedule as defending champs, and depending how Georgia plays, they could possibly be 4. If they play LSU hard all 4 quarters and keep the game within within 10 then they should get it. I don't want to see another complimentary playoff appearance gifted to a cutesy (garbage) underdog story just so they can chit themselves when the lights get turned on *cough* NOTRE DAME *cough*
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    Originally Posted by W1LLW View Post
    And this is why I hope Georgia beats LSU in a close game so that this isn't even a discussion. Every year the argument for having a Selection Committee is to put "the 4 best teams in". Yet they've routinely fukedup the selections.

    Remember that time Ohio State lost in a fluke Ezekiel Elliott's last year, and they sent Michigan State in to get curbed stomped by Alabama? Then they tried to right that wrong by putting Ohio State in when they were questionable and Clemson blanked them?



    Ohio State, and LSU are clearly the top two teams this year. Clemson should be in even with a poverty schedule as defending champs, and depending how Georgia plays, they could possibly be 4. If they play LSU hard all 4 quarters and keep the game within within 10 then they should get it. I don't want to see another complimentary playoff appearance gifted to a cutesy (garbage) underdog story just so they can chit themselves when the lights get turned on *cough* NOTRE DAME *cough*
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