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07-24-2015, 11:19 AM #42
So the plan is really trying to force long term investments. It introduces a sliding scale of tax percentages until the investment is held for 6 years. Note that the max tax percentage is the same as it previously has been for short turnaround investments.
The link wasn't really clear about the top bracket though. Is this sliding scale just for the top bracket or does it apply to everybody? If applied to everybody, I could see it hurting the top bracket more, just from the nature of short turnaround investments.
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07-24-2015, 11:21 AM #43
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I'm for taxing the super wealthy (read: elite) a little bit more because you can't get super wealthy without ****ing people over in the legal/tax system anyways. LMAO if you think the richest motherfukers out there didn't step over people/use money and power to gain even more money and power at the cost of other lesser people.
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07-24-2015, 11:21 AM #44
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07-24-2015, 11:26 AM #46
I'm not for or against increased taxation on mega rich. I don't really care either way. It's bad if they get taxed, it's bad if they don't. That's not really the issue.
However, I do enjoy listening to the "I wish it was the 50's, strong middle class" conservatives go on on and on and then deliver that fire on them. The tax rate for rich people was huge. It would be considered treasonous today if the rates were the same.
Want to know why everything was peachy? CEO's made like 3x the lowest paid employee. Now, it's like 600x.
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07-24-2015, 11:30 AM #47
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07-24-2015, 11:36 AM #48
This would only effect those making over 400k a year, correct?
Someone explain this to me like I'm a toddler. I thought guys like Buffet make 'nothing' a year, all their money coming from investments. And couldn't they just take minimum wage as a salary from their company with stock and investment options? Or do those count as income.
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07-24-2015, 11:57 AM #50
Lol @ you complaining about the rates someone like Mitt Romney pays- the AMOUNT of money he paid was nearly $3 million in taxes last year. That's more than you'll contribute in a lifetime.
You haven't earned the right to complain about someone who puts more than 800 times more into our tax coffers every year than the average American taxpayer does, yourself included.
But whatever makes people like you feel better about stealing more from those who have more than you, I guess.
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07-24-2015, 11:58 AM #51
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07-24-2015, 12:01 PM #53
I am a high income person in liberal California. Right now after deductions I pay 48.94% combined fed/state taxation. That's socialist Europe levels, without all the benefits of.living in socialized Europe for poor people.
I'd leave the US tomorrow if they wouldn't chase me down for more taxes. I'm srsly gonna be one those guys that renounces citizenship if she wins. I refuse to pay the literal majority of my income to taxes
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07-24-2015, 12:09 PM #55
I wouldn't call this a tax increase in a sense. All she did according to the graph was penalize capital gains that weren't long positions (really she just changed the definition of long from 1 year to 6 years). Rates only increase selling positions in year 2-5. Capital gains tax is BS as it is. The current system is annoying as it is, this will make it more so.
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07-24-2015, 12:09 PM #56
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07-24-2015, 12:21 PM #60
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I don't understand why capital gains tax isn't taxed as ordinary income in the first place. The super wealthy build their wealth through investments that are taxable via capital gains. Clearly, these tax laws favor the rich.
I don't see these Clinton changes as being bad. I have a feeling the ultra rich and hedge funds will be lobbying to spin this to get the dumb public riled up to oppose the tax hike.On 5/1/2011 I started my quest for 10k rep.
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