Reply
Results 1 to 13 of 13
  1. #1
    Registered User ewong11692's Avatar
    Join Date: Sep 2007
    Age: 32
    Posts: 150
    Rep Power: 0
    ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10)
    ewong11692 is offline

    HIIT & Speed Training

    I've been doing a lot of HIIT to lose shed some weight like about 5 pounds for football. Less fat=less to carry while running=FASTER. Thing is, i'm starting football soon and I want to concentrate a lot on my speed.

    I know that HIIT is supposed to help you in conditioning, and acceleration, but it probably doesn't make you as fast if you were to do specific speed training exercises like sprints, shuttle runs, and cones.

    At the same, I still want to shed some weight, but specific speed training wouldn't work as well as HIIT in losing weight.

    What should I do, stick to the HIIT, or switch to the speed training?
    Reply With Quote

  2. #2
    Registered User saizen's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2007
    Location: California, United States
    Age: 40
    Posts: 1,197
    Rep Power: 2341
    saizen is just really nice. (+1000) saizen is just really nice. (+1000) saizen is just really nice. (+1000) saizen is just really nice. (+1000) saizen is just really nice. (+1000) saizen is just really nice. (+1000) saizen is just really nice. (+1000) saizen is just really nice. (+1000) saizen is just really nice. (+1000) saizen is just really nice. (+1000) saizen is just really nice. (+1000)
    saizen is offline
    Originally Posted by ewong11692 View Post
    I've been doing a lot of HIIT to lose shed some weight like about 5 pounds for football. Less fat=less to carry while running=FASTER. Thing is, i'm starting football soon and I want to concentrate a lot on my speed.

    I know that HIIT is supposed to help you in conditioning, and acceleration, but it probably doesn't make you as fast if you were to do specific speed training exercises like sprints, shuttle runs, and cones.

    At the same, I still want to shed some weight, but specific speed training wouldn't work as well as HIIT in losing weight.

    What should I do, stick to the HIIT, or switch to the speed training?
    Well I'm a HIIT fanatic so I'd say stick with the HIIT, specially since you want to burn some fat as well. HIIT definately will help your endurance, which you will definately need for football. The conditioning exercises you do during practice are a form of HIIT are they not? So i think doing HIIT will do nothing but good for you. More so than speed training.
    "Trust me, if you do an honest 20 rep program, at some point Jesus will talk to you. On the last day of the program, he asked if he could work in."

    -Mark Rippetoe

    -1st Place Men's Physique Class D, Muscle Evolution Santa Clara, CA 1/2015
    -1st Place Men's Physique Amateur, Muscle Evolution Santa Clara, CA 1/2015
    -3rd Place Men's Physique Overall, Muscle Evolution Santa Clara, CA 1/2015

    IG: @llkoole7
    Reply With Quote

  3. #3
    Aaron watchandsee23's Avatar
    Join Date: Feb 2005
    Location: E-Town, SC
    Posts: 3,430
    Rep Power: 1232
    watchandsee23 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) watchandsee23 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) watchandsee23 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) watchandsee23 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) watchandsee23 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) watchandsee23 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) watchandsee23 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) watchandsee23 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) watchandsee23 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) watchandsee23 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) watchandsee23 is a jewel in the rough. (+500)
    watchandsee23 is offline
    Speed training. HIIT is bad news lead to injuries.
    Reply With Quote

  4. #4
    Registered User ewong11692's Avatar
    Join Date: Sep 2007
    Age: 32
    Posts: 150
    Rep Power: 0
    ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10)
    ewong11692 is offline
    Originally Posted by watchandsee23 View Post
    Speed training. HIIT is bad news lead to injuries.
    How?
    Reply With Quote

  5. #5
    cereal 4 rereal matthor's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2006
    Posts: 21,825
    Rep Power: 10973
    matthor is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) matthor is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) matthor is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) matthor is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) matthor is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) matthor is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) matthor is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) matthor is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) matthor is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) matthor is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) matthor is a splendid one to behold. (+10000)
    matthor is offline
    mix in both. You could even do it in the same session. Some speed drills, then some HIIT
    "There's levels of retardation most people don't even know about"

    - Matt's Journal
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=84812603#post84812603

    "Solid session after all that alcohol intoxication" - Kruczynski
    Reply With Quote

  6. #6
    Banned farzamk's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2007
    Age: 46
    Posts: 3,668
    Rep Power: 0
    farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250)
    farzamk is offline
    Do speed alone, and do extensive tempo for fat loss and conditioning, stay away from HIIT.
    Reply With Quote

  7. #7
    Registered User fbdt99's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2007
    Age: 33
    Posts: 338
    Rep Power: 218
    fbdt99 is on a distinguished road. (+10) fbdt99 is on a distinguished road. (+10) fbdt99 is on a distinguished road. (+10) fbdt99 is on a distinguished road. (+10) fbdt99 is on a distinguished road. (+10) fbdt99 is on a distinguished road. (+10) fbdt99 is on a distinguished road. (+10) fbdt99 is on a distinguished road. (+10) fbdt99 is on a distinguished road. (+10) fbdt99 is on a distinguished road. (+10) fbdt99 is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    fbdt99 is offline
    Originally Posted by saizen View Post
    Well I'm a HIIT fanatic so I'd say stick with the HIIT, specially since you want to burn some fat as well. HIIT definately will help your endurance, which you will definately need for football. The conditioning exercises you do during practice are a form of HIIT are they not? So i think doing HIIT will do nothing but good for you. More so than speed training.
    HIIT is not needed. very little endurance is needed for football. about 5-10 seconds per play 20-30 seconds of rest(huddle) 3-1 ratio of rest to work
    Reply With Quote

  8. #8
    Registered User ewong11692's Avatar
    Join Date: Sep 2007
    Age: 32
    Posts: 150
    Rep Power: 0
    ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) ewong11692 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10)
    ewong11692 is offline
    Originally Posted by farzamk View Post
    Do speed alone, and do extensive tempo for fat loss and conditioning, stay away from HIIT.
    So run longer sprints like 60m-100m with less rest?
    Reply With Quote

  9. #9
    Banned farzamk's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2007
    Age: 46
    Posts: 3,668
    Rep Power: 0
    farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250)
    farzamk is offline
    Originally Posted by ewong11692 View Post
    So run longer sprints like 60m-100m with less rest?
    Read this thread, my first post.

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6750741

    Also you dont get faster that way, speed work is 2-8 seconds of max effort and max speed with full recovery inbetween runs.
    Reply With Quote

  10. #10
    Registered User crppleman51's Avatar
    Join Date: Dec 2007
    Age: 30
    Posts: 493
    Rep Power: 0
    crppleman51 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) crppleman51 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) crppleman51 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) crppleman51 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) crppleman51 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) crppleman51 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) crppleman51 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) crppleman51 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) crppleman51 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) crppleman51 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10) crppleman51 has a little shameless behaviour in the past. (-10)
    crppleman51 is offline
    Originally Posted by ewong11692 View Post
    I've been doing a lot of HIIT to lose shed some weight like about 5 pounds for football. Less fat=less to carry while running=FASTER. Thing is, i'm starting football soon and I want to concentrate a lot on my speed.

    I know that HIIT is supposed to help you in conditioning, and acceleration, but it probably doesn't make you as fast if you were to do specific speed training exercises like sprints, shuttle runs, and cones.

    At the same, I still want to shed some weight, but specific speed training wouldn't work as well as HIIT in losing weight.

    What should I do, stick to the HIIT, or switch to the speed training?
    sprint training imo works better look at pro football players ... i seriously doubt they run intervals
    Reply With Quote

  11. #11
    Militant Atheist Ben76's Avatar
    Join Date: Apr 2006
    Age: 34
    Posts: 2,259
    Rep Power: 0
    Ben76 is not very well liked. (-100) Ben76 is not very well liked. (-100) Ben76 is not very well liked. (-100) Ben76 is not very well liked. (-100) Ben76 is not very well liked. (-100) Ben76 is not very well liked. (-100) Ben76 is not very well liked. (-100) Ben76 is not very well liked. (-100) Ben76 is not very well liked. (-100) Ben76 is not very well liked. (-100) Ben76 is not very well liked. (-100)
    Ben76 is offline
    speed training. I only do conditioning type exercises a few weeks before season , the rest of the off-season should be to add strength and speed.
    Reply With Quote

  12. #12
    Banned farzamk's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2007
    Age: 46
    Posts: 3,668
    Rep Power: 0
    farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250) farzamk has a spectacular aura about. (+250)
    farzamk is offline
    Originally Posted by flopindisguise View Post
    for the people saying HIIT is bad. i just wanna know why its bad and what can i do to replace it.
    max effort running while not at full recovery.

    speed work to replace + tempo.
    Reply With Quote

  13. #13
    Aaron watchandsee23's Avatar
    Join Date: Feb 2005
    Location: E-Town, SC
    Posts: 3,430
    Rep Power: 1232
    watchandsee23 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) watchandsee23 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) watchandsee23 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) watchandsee23 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) watchandsee23 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) watchandsee23 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) watchandsee23 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) watchandsee23 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) watchandsee23 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) watchandsee23 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) watchandsee23 is a jewel in the rough. (+500)
    watchandsee23 is offline
    I've always heard its bad. Then I read on the Charlie Francis boards about HIIT. then I read a debate about it on T-Nation.com about how penn state, michigan and michigan and other football teams used it and they were tops in the nations in pulled hammys, broken leg bones, sprained ankles, and other leg injuries.
    Reply With Quote

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts