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    I'll have to take a look at when I get home, sounds good... Wonder how the taste is!
    It's in pill form. It's also somewhat expensive but it I know LEF's quality is outstanding & the supp. profile looks good... i think
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    Regarding choline, doesn't it matter which form you use (absorption) for your daily amount?

    I keep reading 1:1 ratio with piracetam.

    Currently, I'm taking 4g piracetam and 1g choline citrate (just started 2 days ago). I would think 4g of choline citrate is quite a bit, but perhaps I should up the dose from 1g?
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    For Studying / Stacking with Ultima

    I'm thinking of purchasing Oxiracetam... Based on the first post this thread, it seems like the most potent of them listed. Is that still the consensus today?

    I want to use for studying and to stack with Ultima before working out.
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    Did you try Napnock?

    Has anybody tried NapNock as a new nootropic? I have heard many rumors about it, but did not find any information on the web.
    I know that it was some kind of secret experimental item, but recently it came out to the market.

    Could you tell me where can I find it? What are the effects? Any side effects?

    I would be gratefull for your answers!
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    I just got some of this from XF, Piracetam Pro 500mg capsules... when do you take it>
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    Hey guys.

    Arent you worried that these are essentially drugs and could cause brain issues do to up regulation of receptor sites?
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    Originally Posted by aer_vlad View Post
    Regarding choline, doesn't it matter which form you use (absorption) for your daily amount?

    I keep reading 1:1 ratio with piracetam.

    Currently, I'm taking 4g piracetam and 1g choline citrate (just started 2 days ago). I would think 4g of choline citrate is quite a bit, but perhaps I should up the dose from 1g?

    I would look for better, more bioavailable sources of choline such as those used in Ultima: Cognizin CDP-Choline and Alpha Size A-GPC. There's a huge difference in benefits.

    Originally Posted by LeeKun View Post
    I'm thinking of purchasing Oxiracetam... Based on the first post this thread, it seems like the most potent of them listed. Is that still the consensus today?

    I want to use for studying and to stack with Ultima before working out.

    I used most of the racetams at some point and without question for me the best was Aniracetam. I would think it would go well with Ultima and both can be used effectively for mental and physical training/conditioning.
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    Originally Posted by ChickenBowl View Post
    Hey guys.

    Arent you worried that these are essentially drugs and could cause brain issues do to up regulation of receptor sites?
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    Originally Posted by w0rd View Post
    Thats quite a blend, but most way too many things in it to be dose properly. I like to make my own stacks but it is nice to find a blend that works well.
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    Originally Posted by Peter LeDrew View Post
    I used most of the racetams at some point and without question for me the best was Aniracetam. I would think it would go well with Ultima and both can be used effectively for mental and physical training/conditioning.
    Aniracetam worked much better than piracetam personally, but an oxi/ani combo seems to work the best for me.
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    Yes first post/....


    my stack will be:

    500mg aniracetam
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    and am still deciding whether or not to purchase Focus xt for the choline source or just go with straight choline bitartrate.


    thoughts on this anyone?

    Im also going to experiment with deprenyl...ill let you know about that stuff. anyone know if there will be a negative effect with the inositol and deprenyl taken together? deprenyl being an MAOI, and while inositol is not an SSRI, it takes the place of them in treating depression.

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    Would choline do any good individually? also when is the best time to be taken
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    Old thread!
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    Would choline do any good individually? also when is the best time to be taken
    anyone know this?
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    anyone know this?
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    Originally Posted by robertmm94 View Post
    Would choline do any good individually? also when is the best time to be taken
    Have not used choline by itself but in combination with ALCAR it is pretty good.
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    Originally Posted by SupaNatural View Post
    Have not used choline by itself but in combination with ALCAR it is pretty good.
    I've used choline bitartrate alone, I didn't notice anything until I added piracetam.
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    Finally getting around to using the racetams. After much research I've decided to go with piracetam. Pramiracetam is too expensive for daily use and I think piracetam is more up my alley anyhow.

    I'll be running this along with Choline Bitartrate, Inositol, Ginkgo Biloba, and Huperzine-A.

    Any recommendations on an "attack dose?"
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    Originally Posted by manofmany View Post
    Finally getting around to using the racetams. After much research I've decided to go with piracetam. Pramiracetam is too expensive for daily use and I think piracetam is more up my alley anyhow.

    I'll be running this along with Choline Bitartrate, Inositol, Ginkgo Biloba, and Huperzine-A.

    Any recommendations on an "attack dose?"

    Piracetam: 1.5-2.5g 2x a day (with choline)
    Choline: 1.5g choline 2x a day (I like it this way, some find it's too high)
    Inositol: what form is this?
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    Originally Posted by Synapsin View Post
    Piracetam: 1.5-2.5g 2x a day (with choline)
    Choline: 1.5g choline 2x a day (I like it this way, some find it's too high)
    Inositol: what form is this?
    Ginkgo: 40mg every 3 hours (not entirely convinced with it)
    Hup A: 50-100mcg 2x a day.
    Thanks.

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    Originally Posted by manofmany View Post
    Thanks.

    The Ginkgo is solely for mood. Despite the negative study that was released last year, I still swear by it. There is a night and day difference when using vs not using.
    No worries, and hey, I'm not the one using it Did you figure out your inositol form?
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    What would be a good stack for one who's had MDMA abuse in the past? Definitely feel the brain damage from that.. Thanks!
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    Ask your MD.
    Don't want SSRI's. Looking for a natural way, so far I've tried 5htp, exercise, nature, hiking, all work well. But thought there would be something here.
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    Originally Posted by SharkCityBrah View Post
    Don't want SSRI's. Looking for a natural way, so far I've tried 5htp, exercise, nature, hiking, all work well. But thought there would be something here.
    I know something useful besides SSRIs but the issue is, it's still RX so you'd have to see your MD regardless.
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    I'd be willing to see an MD. Would you mind telling me what it is through PM?
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