Post Workout, High-Glycemic Carbs, good or bad?

[Tack Man]

Although, I have always been taught that they are a must that is very effective in promoting protein synthesis I just read an article saying, that if anything, post-workout high-glycemic carbs can be counter-productive by forcefully shutting the window of time that your body has an insulin sensitivity due to lowered glycogen storage. The article elaborated saying that during this window of lowered glycogen storage protein synthesis and gh levels are heightened but the flood of high-glycemic carbs post workout allegedly closes this window. Does anyone have any answers about this important question, or does this idea sound as new to you as it does to me?

[Skull Crusher Chris]

I have heard this before, but am not too sure on the legitimacy of it. All I know is that the insulin spike PWO has been proven unnecessary so, this should not be a problem if you take that into account.

[The Solution]

ive heard the same and read the same .. i would like to know what would be the best carb source PWO.. right now i take some dex and mix of oats.. would that be considered a good mix?

[lachy]

ive heard the same and read the same .. i would like to know what would be the best carb source PWO.. right now i take some dex and mix of oats.. would that be considered a good mix?

I would drop the oats bro, the fiber in them will be slowing down the digestion pwo, just go whey+ dex+ 5g's Luicene ( if you can afford it)

[Baixaria]

I hope the gurus drop in and give us a better insight! Alan er...

[Sibrek]

Alan responded to this by calling BS, and just saying to eat the most nutrient dense carbs you can after you workout. I.e. oats being ideal, dextrose not.

[PHunHouse]

PWO, You need High glycemic carbs to replenish glycogen. If you destroyed yourself in the gym, within 30min (my theory) of post workout, i take hi-GI carbs.

1 Bagle
1/4 Cantalope
3 Scoops BSN True-Mass
3 Tbls. mixed amino-Acids containing Lucine


Thats roughly my PWO meal.

[Aindreas]

I have yet to hear anyone flawlessly defend either stance on this and plan on continuing to put honey in my shake because it seems to work acceptably well and dammit it tastes good. As long as it's some combination of carbs and protein, I think you're probably ok.

[Richie_Awesome]

I would drop the oats bro, the fiber in them will be slowing down the digestion pwo, just go whey+ dex+ 5g's Luicene ( if you can afford it)

You are afraid of a few grams of fiber post workout?...

[Richie_Awesome]

PWO, You need High glycemic carbs to replenish glycogen. If you destroyed yourself in the gym, within 30min (my theory) of post workout, i take hi-GI carbs.

1 Bagle
1/4 Cantalope
3 Scoops BSN True-Mass
3 Tbls. mixed amino-Acids containing Lucine


Thats roughly my PWO meal.

but your "theory" is backed up by nothing but hearsay.

You do not need hi-GI carbs post workout, unless you're doing long duration and about to go to another exercise, or if you did not get a proper pre workout meal as you would still be getting nutrients from a proper pre workout meal.

Also, alan has said many times that you go no where near losing all glycogen from 60 minutes of weight lifting.

I believe your body can hold a few thousand calories worth of glycogen.

[Blane/Cope]

i eat a mixture of fast/slow digsting carbs

1. Shake-oats/ff yogurt/protein powder/water

2. bagel

[Tussmann57]

I would drop the oats bro, the fiber in them will be slowing down the digestion pwo, just go whey+ dex+ 5g's Luicene ( if you can afford it)

yeah bro, lets believe a 15 yr old bro,

pwo+HIGH GI = retarded.

after an hour workout, you havent even fully digested your preWO meal if done right....

[BabyBodybuilder]

I would drop the oats bro, the fiber in them will be slowing down the digestion pwo, just go whey+ dex+ 5g's Luicene ( if you can afford it)

Supplement companies must love you.

Word to the wise, take everything you read in the teen section with a grain of salt

[Richie_Awesome]

Supplement companies must love you.

lmao

[BabyBodybuilder]

lmao

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[Jrich54338]

I heard this was the best stack cocktail postworkout, by a couple of sources.

whey
dextrose
5g's Luicene
creatine mono
glutamine

[BabyBodybuilder]

I heard this was the best stack cocktail postworkout, by a couple of sources.

whey
dextrose
5g's Luicene
creatine mono
glutamine

I would love to see those sources

[Jrich54338]

no need to prove sources, i know what has to be done and i will do it

[Richie_Awesome]

I heard this was the best stack cocktail postworkout, by a couple of sources.

whey
dextrose
5g's Luicene
creatine mono
glutamine

add some celltech and you're all set

[Jrich54338]

hey i got my creatine mono in there lol

[Richie_Awesome]

hey i got my creatine mono in there lol

you taking cellmass and animal pak?

better throw in some Chromium Picolinate, it's the 10th best selling item at the store

[Jrich54338]

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[PHunHouse]

but your "theory" is backed up by nothing but hearsay.

You do not need hi-GI carbs post workout, unless you're doing long duration and about to go to another exercise, or if you did not get a proper pre workout meal as you would still be getting nutrients from a proper pre workout meal.

Also, alan has said many times that you go no where near losing all glycogen from 60 minutes of weight lifting.

I believe your body can hold a few thousand calories worth of glycogen.

ok "Guy", It works for some it might not work for others. If your doing high intensity workout for example rest - pause your going to deplete yourself. my opinion.

[Jrich54338]

phunhouse i agree,
If your training balls to the wall, and training 5-6 days a week our way works wonders, if your giving it a fanny pump here and there by all means go the other route either way its not your postworkout thats gonna make you grow its your intense, variation workouts that keep those muscles guessing.

[Richie_Awesome]

ok "Guy", It works for some it might not work for others. If your doing high intensity workout for example rest - pause your going to deplete yourself. my opinion.

lmao @ you referring to me in quotes as Guy.

phunhouse i agree,
If your training balls to the wall, and training 5-6 days a week our way works wonders, if your giving it a fanny pump here and there by all means go the other route either way its not your postworkout thats gonna make you grow its your intense, variation workouts that keep those muscles guessing.

Here is a good read, gentleman.

[djshortsleeve]

PWO, You need High glycemic carbs to replenish glycogen. If you destroyed yourself in the gym, within 30min (my theory) of post workout, i take hi-GI carbs.

1 Bagle
1/4 Cantalope
3 Scoops BSN True-Mass
3 Tbls. mixed amino-Acids containing Lucine


Thats roughly my PWO meal.

No, you dont need high GI carbs after working out. I go back and forth between just protein and protein/WMS PWO. I really dont notice a difference. Carbs are really only beneficial when you NEED to replace glycogen, like for endurance. A weight training workout doesnt last long enough, typically.

[djshortsleeve]

I heard this was the best stack cocktail postworkout, by a couple of sources.

whey
dextrose
5g's Luicene
creatine mono
glutamine

I doubt it. Whey plus Leucine/Creatine/Glutamine is a waste. You wouldnt absorb much of the aminos as they would be competing for receptors.

[Johnsmatrix]

PWO, You need High glycemic carbs to replenish glycogen. If you destroyed yourself in the gym, within 30min (my theory) of post workout, i take hi-GI carbs.

1 Bagle
1/4 Cantalope
3 Scoops BSN True-Mass
3 Tbls. mixed amino-Acids containing Lucine


Thats roughly my PWO meal.

That's what I was taught in my certification studies. Your at a low sugar level after a workout so if there was ever a time to have hi-glycemic foods, post workout would be the time.

[Jrich54338]

thank you johnsmatrix

[Richie_Awesome]

thank you johnsmatrix

selective reading lol.