I just bought and got in 2 bottles of novedex XT and im kinda scared of taking them because im a pussy, and i was wondering what i should look for while im on them to stop taking them, ive heard alot of things like it cant cause gyno, it does cause gyno (or delayed gyno) so what should i look for to make sure i dont get any side effects? oh by the way im 16
(i made up my mind im taking them, so please dont make this into a thread about how im to young)
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04-08-2007, 05:46 PM #1
What Side effects of Novedex XT should i look for?
"The body cannot achieve what the mind cannot conceive."
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog."
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04-08-2007, 06:23 PM #5
There is this sports nutrition place where i live that will sell kids who are 16-17 year old kids PH such as superdrol and x-mass, and the funny thing is this guy tells these kids that running Novedex XT (which he'll also sells to these kids) is all they need of a proper PCT. Although most kids don't even know what PCT is, so many don't bother. Just more money that they don't want to spend.
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04-08-2007, 07:00 PM #7
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The best at what...?
Who are you lifting for?
Do you think that just because some of the other 16-17 year olds you know aren't exp'g any side effects RIGHT NOW that they aren't screwing themselves over IN THE FUTURE?
Sure, eventually someone might answer you in this thread...but You're not going to get anybody reliable to help; you already know what you're doing is wrong...
The question is...do you want to be the guy in his 20's, 30's, 40's and beyond living with side effects of a seriously messed up hormonal system because it was tampered with way before it was ready?<< Keep your eye on the avatar...it will be steadily improving.
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04-08-2007, 07:01 PM #9
and for the most parts i heard there aren't any side effects, besides my test levels will decline faster then normal, most peoples test levels dip at 21, mine would prolly dip at 18 or so ( tell me if im wrong) and im willing to take that risk... because i want to be the best... and the only reason you guys are going all nuts is because it has been drilled into our heads that test boosters cant be taken under 21 although there aren't many studys to back up any diffrence, besides what ive already said...most of you are going to disagree with me but tell me if im wrong and back it up cus im willing to liston if people make an argument and not just say YOUR TOO YOUNG! its like saying dont press the big red button!
"The body cannot achieve what the mind cannot conceive."
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog."
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04-08-2007, 07:11 PM #10
Alsoo i have taken anagen (by scivation) and i saw good results and no side effects (now) soooo i thought why not another one but what are the long term side effects EVERYONE ALWAYS mentions but NEVER says what they ACTUALLY are ?
"The body cannot achieve what the mind cannot conceive."
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog."
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04-08-2007, 07:24 PM #16
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if novadex xt is effective at reducing estrogen levels/increasing testosterone levels, you COULD see an estrogen rebound once you stop taking it, which in turn could stop all vertical growth for you. They are not designed or marketed to kids, if you were to contact Gaspari directly I am sure they would flat out tell you that it is not recommended that you mess with your growing that way. Anytime you start messing with hormones you risk side effects, they may not be as extreme as what a gram of test per week would do, but in your stage of growth anything that is outside of what your body is trying to do can have potential long term negative effects.
Do you want to be the best RIGHT now and risk being a has been the rest of your life? I work for a guy that was a hell of a good pitcher in high school and college, they used to dose his right shoulder with cortisone to win games and have him at his best for high school and college. He had a chance at being pro if he kept playing well...too bad they kept giving him shots cause he kept pushing farther than his body would allow him too. He coaches little league now cause his right shoulder never recovered, in fact he has had to give up golf since his rotator cuff needs some serious work, and if he doesn't stretch often his shoulder freezes up pretty much.
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04-08-2007, 07:33 PM #19
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closed growth plates are not long term enough for you? I know I did not stop growing in height until I was 23.
Perhaps long term or permanent low testosterone levels? The low test HAS happened to guys your age when they start messing with substances that alter hormones. Do you want to be injecting testosterone for the rest of your life because you can't get it up when you want to and you don't see the gains you could get from working out?
The gains you would see from Novadex are minimal at best no matter what your age, you would do better eating more, lifting hard and sleeping hard.
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04-08-2007, 07:44 PM #23
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Nolvadex is a SERM used to recover from steroids. the stuff you are talking about is from Gaspari Nutrition. It is NOT designed to be used by you. Thats why things like this are stated by Gaspari:
Who should not use Novedex XT??
Under no circumstances should any women or any person under the age of 21 years use Novedex XT? for ANY reason whatsoever and the use of Novedex XT? is absolutely contraindicated in these populations. The following people should not use Novedex XT? without the express written permission of their physician -Anyone who has ever had any type of cancer, benign prostatic hypertrophy, liver or kidney disease, any cardiovascular disease or high blood pressure or high cholesterol, anyone who is currently being treated with hormone replacement therapy and anyone who has been or is being treated for any psychological or psychiatric problems. You MUST consult with your physician or licensed health care provider before you use Novedex XT?.
From what I understand of the stuff its goal is to reduce the transformation of testosterone to estrogen. Problem is you NEED both to grow properly. When you are done with all your vertical growth and have a mature body you can mess around with stuff like that and not risk near as much, since many bodily systems are no longer changing. When you are mature, you can alter the ratios of testosterone and estrogen and see some slight positive effects, such as slightly more muscular growth, but when you need the estrogen to help with growth hormone and development of your body its usually a very bad idea to start messing with your endocrine system.
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04-08-2007, 07:45 PM #24
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04-08-2007, 07:51 PM #29
Well im using gm right now with very good results. When I first started using supps I didnt see great results but I got my diet in order and got a better workout program. Since then the gains have been good. Nutrition, workout, supplement. Make sure the other two are in order first, that way you wont be wasting your $$.
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04-08-2007, 07:53 PM #30
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