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Thread: Is boomer hate just jealousy?
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04-30-2024, 04:54 PM #61
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04-30-2024, 04:57 PM #62
They read the newspaper, to find a job, it wasn't with a click of a button on their cellphone.
Christ, you're just as bad as the rest, making up every excuse possible for these people.
We're talking about a generation thst bitches about how they didn't get the job, and they have piercings and tattoos on their face.
A generation, where some of them never had a job till they were 22 years old.
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04-30-2024, 05:00 PM #63
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04-30-2024, 05:33 PM #64
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04-30-2024, 05:37 PM #65
They complain they they don't have what boomers had, whilst also complaining that they don't want to work the hours that boomers worked.
Working hards is for suckers!
Quiet quitting!
I only want to work 4 days a week!
WFH!
Why can't I buy a house?Screw nature; my body will do what I DAMN WELL tell it to do!
The only dangerous thing about an exercise is the person doing it.
They had the technology to rebuild me. They made me better, stronger, faster......
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04-30-2024, 06:08 PM #66
LMFAO, during Boomer times, even Black Highschool dropouts could get a factory job in L.A. and buy a median sized house in Baldwin Hills California and have 2 brand new cars, a wife, 3 kids, etc all on a 1 breadwinner income. Take a gander what those homes cost today.
https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...es_CA/overviewWhite 18-24 year old fit virgins with no tattoos and no debt=GOAT Women.
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04-30-2024, 06:21 PM #67
Boomers had a lot more to work for and it seemed more realistic. brb living in a white homogenous, Christian society... I'm sure these zoomers would work harder if they could easily get a house, car, a girl or wife (dating is phucked for them). Why bother if you're just gonna be making ends meet living in a ****ty apartment? If you do that you're just a slave.
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04-30-2024, 06:29 PM #68
A generation who wants to only work 32hrs a week, and get paid for forty hrs a week is definitely "hard."
Like I said, just look at how so many of them are on meds, how only 23% of them can join the military, how one in five of them identify as LBQTRSUV. How 75% of them couldn't even pass the physical test to get on the Chicago Police Department.
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04-30-2024, 06:38 PM #69
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04-30-2024, 06:39 PM #70
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04-30-2024, 06:39 PM #71
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04-30-2024, 07:00 PM #72
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04-30-2024, 07:19 PM #73
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05-01-2024, 06:34 AM #74
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05-01-2024, 07:20 AM #75
yeah, and it was a piece of cake to get those jobs in the Help Wanted section. There was no background check or 4 round interviews with a panel of supervisors. As long as you were the first to call the listed number, you got the job. Hell, there really was no need for a resume either. Just talking to the boss was proof of competence.
I can't relate to this because I worked in healthcare, where there was no such thing as a "40hr week" let alone 32. In fact, there really wasn't such a thing as holidays either because people are always sick and getting injured. I was either on-call on holidays (christmas/thankgiving etc) or I had it off but would have to be scheduled to work it the following year.
HOWEVER, there are many 9-5 jobs that can function just fine on 32hr weeks. The 40 hours was just an arbitrary number anyway. If you've ever been in a generic office setting you'd know that people do, at best, 5 hours of work per day which equates to a 30hr work week if they're working Mon-Fri, so 32 makes more practical sense.
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05-01-2024, 07:38 AM #76
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05-01-2024, 07:48 AM #77
This is absolutely delusional. The scenario you are describing was for entry level jobs, general labor, fast food etc. Same as it is now.
There have always been background checks, multiple interviews, and degree requirements for companies that are hiring for above entry level positions.
If this is what is important to you, get a part time job that allows you to work 32 hours a week. They are everywhere. If you think companies should just let their employees work 32 hours but pay them for 40 because "they really only work 5 hours a day anyway", then you should start a business and base your pay scale off of that model. Best of luck.
I keep seeing people whining about how you could be a high school dropout back in the day and still get a job and make enough to buy a house and support a family on a single income. It was called physical labor, and there are very few if any people under 30 today that are willing to do it. I know Mexicans right now that are making close to 6 figures framing houses. They work 6 days a week 10-12 hours a day to do it. Some soft kid that thinks mean words equal physical assault, would not make it 2 hour on a job site without having a mental breakdown and quitting. That's if they could make it through the first hour of physical labor. There is unlimited opportunities out there to make "good" money. Unfortunately for the current generation, none of those opportunities are from employers offering great pay and benefits to surf the internet a few hours a day, a couple of days a week.________
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05-01-2024, 08:38 AM #78
So in this fantasy world you people believe in, unemployment was non-existent, poverty was non-existent?
And not everyone works in an office, and it's nothing but a pipe dream, for you to believe that you'll get paid for 40brs, when you're only working 32hrs a week.
If this policy is ever implemented, it will of course backfire, like most progressive policies.
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05-01-2024, 09:14 AM #79
Thats the game you have to play in todays job market. Working as a boomer did, but in 2024, will have you spinning your wheels for a job that hardly pays to keep a roof over your head. There's no incentive to "care" about a job like that. Jobs in the 60's-90's may have sucked but at least you could afford basic living expenses with it. You can't even do that anymore.
1. Wages have stagnated. The dollar doesn't go nearly as far as it use to, and the only way to keep up with inflation is to job-hop every 1.5-2 years into a higher paying role because those 2% raises are not keeping up with the cost of, well....living.....and thats IF you get a raise that calendar year. There are many people who only get raises if they are deemed worthy through Performance Reviews. The only way to get a raise is if you "exceed expectations" but managerial staff have been caught giving their employees "meets expectations" because they don't want to give out raises even if the employee was stellar. Thats why its not worth it to work hard, and thats why people "quiet quit."
2. Working hard IS for suckers in todays job market becasue its the overachievers that get screwed over. Why would a boss move up a very hard worker that goes above and beyond when they're so good doing their current role? The worst part is, the "going above and beyond" in the eyes of the boss will be seen as the new norm and anything less than that now becomes the "not working hard enough" and even if that person leaves the job THAT becomes the new workload for all staff screwing everyone over.
I feel like a lot of you are too old to relate. I know I am, but I have cousins in their late teens and early 20's going through hell just to get a job. You've been in the workforce for too long and are already in a comfortable position where nothing that is currently happening really applies to you.Last edited by Maestro; 05-01-2024 at 09:23 AM.
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05-01-2024, 09:20 AM #80
Oh it existed, but you had to be a real major phuck up to not have a job in the 60's and 70's. You either had a criminal record mental problems or health problems that stopped you from working back then. Now days, We now have fully functional men and women living out of their car in Wal-Mart parking lots while being employed because the wages they're making aren't enough to pay rent.
You gotta see there's a level of disparity/an imbalance that is being ignored, and no amount of "stop drinking starbucks" is going to solve those peoples problems.Last edited by Maestro; 05-01-2024 at 09:28 AM.
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05-01-2024, 09:26 AM #81
We also have people working from home, which wasn't happening back in this era you fantasize about. The house didn't have air conditioning, there was one car, one television, etc. Hell, kids were working delivering newspapers, mowing lawns, and then got a part time job at 15-16.
Kids nowadays aren't working their first job till they're 22 years old.
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05-01-2024, 09:42 AM #82
-The job of paperboy was lost due to the physical newspaper industry dying.
-Kids don't mow lawns anymore because they're being out-competed by grown adults who can throw their equipment in the back of a trailer and drive all around town mowing lawns.
-The vast majority of jobs today (even entry level ones) are asking for experience or even a college degree which is obviously an oxymoron if you're a kid thats simply trying to gain experience. My first job was working as a Pharmacy Technician. In the early 2000's you could just walk into a pharmacy and ask for a job. Now days, You have to go to the company website, create an account to their application portal to apply, and to even qualify, you must have taken and passed the pharmacy tech schooling and exam (which runs for about 9 months and cost about $5k) and even with all those requirements met, you are in competition with hundreds of other applicants so there's no guarantee you'll even get a job.
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05-01-2024, 11:01 AM #83
Kids nowadays aren't even mowing their own lawn.
And why aren't they working at all when they turn 15-16? They literally have no work experience when they finally get a job at 22 years old.
Like I already pointed out, to truly see how sad they are, just look at them when they workout, and how they treat the gym.
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05-01-2024, 11:13 AM #84
I left university at 24 with a PhD in a commercially valuable area and a willingness to work 80 hours a week. I went straight in to a well paid consulting role, where I excelled, until I started my own consultancy.
If I graduated this year, I could do exactly the same thing.Screw nature; my body will do what I DAMN WELL tell it to do!
The only dangerous thing about an exercise is the person doing it.
They had the technology to rebuild me. They made me better, stronger, faster......
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05-01-2024, 11:16 AM #85
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05-01-2024, 01:44 PM #86
You're underestimating how chitty the job market is right now, in fact you would be in an even WORSE predicament if you were to apply to jobs today. Companies hate graduates with Masters and PhD's because they know you're over qualified for any entry level role and will leave the moment a new opportunity arrives, and jobs that actually require PhD's also require years of experience which most newly college grads don't have enough of.
The job market is broken. Everyone's cookin' the books to make it seem like everything is okay when its not. There are thousands of jobs posted everyday that have no intention on being filled. A good chunk of them are fake or scams trying to steal personal information (because any tom dick or harry can upload a new listing on a job-board). There are jobs that are haphazardly opened when they know they don't have the funding for it, and jobs that are opened when they know they're just going to fill the position internally. Worst of all, the jobs that are actually real are being offered for poverty wages well below what they were initially offered even 2 years ago.
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05-01-2024, 01:50 PM #87
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05-01-2024, 01:57 PM #88
I have ~100 fresh graduates starting in september.
Companies do not hate graduates with masters and PhDs, you are just talking chit. They just want them to be in something of commercial value. If it isn't applicable to the job, they aren't much more valuable that somebody with a bachelors.
My first PhD (the one at 24) was in cryogenic engineering. This year, 2024, somebody in the same field would walk in to a job just as easily as I did.
I actually hire and mentor these people, so don't stand there and tell me what the job market is like for them.
Excellence always gets hired.Screw nature; my body will do what I DAMN WELL tell it to do!
The only dangerous thing about an exercise is the person doing it.
They had the technology to rebuild me. They made me better, stronger, faster......
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05-01-2024, 02:02 PM #89
Yes, in Cryogenic Engineering. You're in a very niche position in high demand. Its very easy for Physicians to find jobs right out of med school too, but i'm not talking about those unicorn professions. I'm talking about careers that the average joe will have.
For example a PhD in Biology (with no interest in med school or teaching) is basically as useful as a liberal arts degree. Those are the people i'm talking about.
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05-01-2024, 02:12 PM #90
Biology can be very commericially valuable, depending on what they did. The whole point of a PhD is how specialised it is.
Lots of areas of biology would get people jobs in ecology, environmental sciences etc
My wife runs civil/structural for me and she hired a biologist for bats. There are lots of rules regarding bats in construction and you have to have bat surveys etc.Screw nature; my body will do what I DAMN WELL tell it to do!
The only dangerous thing about an exercise is the person doing it.
They had the technology to rebuild me. They made me better, stronger, faster......
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