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    Republicans who got pandemic debt relief hypocrites for complaining about student deb

    Republicans who got pandemic debt relief hypocrites for complaining about student debt relief

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    errr that was money used to pay salaries of workers.

    not money to pay for a chitty degree that will only get you a job at starbucks or pushing carts.

    on a side note why does it seem only republicans provide jobs to americans?
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    errr that was money used to pay salaries of workers.

    not money to pay for a chitty degree that will only get you a job at starbucks or pushing carts.
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    Government paying because they screwed up and forced your business to close vs Government paying because you chose to take out a loan.
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    Miscers who make retarded excuses for Republicans who got pandemic debt relief are hypocrites for complaining about student debt relief.

    I hear it's real simple, you take a loan you pay it back.
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    Originally Posted by havoc00 View Post
    Republicans who got pandemic debt relief hypocrites for complaining about student debt relief

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/column-re...100025334.html

    The govt forced them to shutdown their businesses...... hows that the same?
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    Originally Posted by Darkhare View Post
    The govt forced them to shutdown their businesses...... hows that the same?
    There are far more similarities between the two loan programs than differences. Both programs did a lot of good for the country, both were riddled with abuse.

    You want to make judgement calls based on your feelings about politics and who benefits, but that has nothing to do with the basic idea of a loan, and the terms and conditions of paying it back.
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    People that pay taxes getting some of that tax money back is not the same as welfare leeches that get chitty degrees making me pay for their gender gender studies cert. Just make my latte and stfu
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    People that pay taxes getting some of that tax money back is not the same as welfare leeches that get chitty degrees making me pay for their gender gender studies cert. Just make my latte and stfu
    russian taxes pay for US college loans? LOL
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    People that pay taxes getting some of that tax money back is not the same as welfare leeches that get chitty degrees making me pay for their gender gender studies cert. Just make my latte and stfu
    So dumb. To Trumpers, anyone who gets a degree gets a useless degree and then doesn't get a real job in their field.

    These are the same people who donate their money to a supposed billionaire..
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    Originally Posted by MinorAttractedPat View Post
    So dumb. To Trumpers, anyone who gets a degree gets a useless degree and then doesn't get a real job in their field.

    These are the same people who donate their money to a supposed billionaire..
    If you cant pay your loan back you fuked up, and thats not my problem MAP
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    If you cant pay your loan back you fuked up, and thats not my problem MAP
    Keep donating to the billionaire cutlist, while crying nonstop about people more educated than you. Your insecurity is showing plumber.
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    Originally Posted by MinorAttractedPat View Post
    Keep donating to the billionaire cutlist, while crying nonstop about people more educated than you. Your insecurity is showing plumber.
    I work in finance not trades MAP. Thats why i dont need to beg for people to fund my bad decisions. Im sorry you cant grasp the difference as well as you can grasp children
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    So dumb. To Trumpers, anyone who gets a degree gets a useless degree and then doesn't get a real job in their field.

    These are the same people who donate their money to a supposed billionaire..
    If they got something useful, they wouldn't be bitching about their loans, and still living at home with mommy.
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    -Government forces companies to shut down but provides them with some relief for their employees.
    -Students voluntarily take out loans and complain they can’t make the payments.

    Libs-“see it’s exactly the same”
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    I work in finance not trades MAP. Thats why i dont need to beg for people to fund my bad decisions. Im sorry you cant grasp the difference as well as you can grasp children
    Sure thing Mr Clean.

    And I see people on the right can throw around accusations/insults and nothing happens but if I were to go off on you right now I would catch a ban faster than Trump falls asleep in court.





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    If they got something useful, they wouldn't be bitching about their loans, and still living at home with mommy.
    Spoken like someone who never went to school and leeches off the taxpayer tit.
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    -Government forces companies to shut down but provides them with some relief for their employees.
    -Students voluntarily take out loans and complain they can’t make the payments.

    Libs-“see it’s exactly the same”
    Funny how the people who created the free PPP loans didn't exclude themselves... the same people who could work summer jobs to pay for their education, while ridiculing todays kids for not wanting to start out life hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt.
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    while ridiculing todays kids for not wanting to start out life hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt.
    Anyone doing that (minus maybe Medical school) are painfully stupid and don't deserve to be bailed out. Another case of you hyper exaggerating something, because you are incapable of discussing things in good faith or being intellectually honest.
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    did they vote for the covid relief bills. that's a better question. If government gives out free money, you'd be a fool not to take advantage of it. It's your tax money you pay anyways. If they cut your federal taxes, do democrats still write checks for their old higher tax rates?
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    Anyone doing that (minus maybe Medical school) are painfully stupid and don't deserve to be bailed out. Another case of you hyper exaggerating something, because you are incapable of discussing things in good faith or being intellectually honest.
    This is nonsense. The vast, vast majority of students in debt are getting legit degrees. We're starting these people out in massive debt which is hurting our country.

    The irony of claiming I'm hyper exaggerating. Another case of people like you being completely out of touch with reality.
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    This is nonsense. The vast, vast majority of students in debt are getting legit degrees. We're starting these people out in massive debt which is hurting our country.

    The irony of claiming I'm hyper exaggerating. Another case of people like you being completely out of touch with reality.
    forgiving the debt without doing anything else will only encourage banks to continue to give bigger loans and expand lending and the universities would increase costs even more.
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    forgiving the debt without doing anything else will only encourage banks to continue to give bigger loans and expand lending and the universities would increase costs even more.
    I agree the root of the problem needs to be fixed but the issue here is Republicans crying about forgiving loans when they gave themselves free loans.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    I agree the root of the problem needs to be fixed but the issue here is Republicans crying about forgiving loans when they gave themselves free loans.
    these were given out pretty much as stimmy checks (grants) where they only turned into loans if you misused the money not outlined in the grants fine print. Even if it was money taken out as a loan with the intention of paying back, if they decided later to forgive it, you would be stupid not to apply for it to be forgiven.

    The real question is, did these people vote for a bill to forgive the "loan".
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    if i'm a republican with an outstanding student loan that i'm paying, and i'm against any laws to forgive loans. IF the bill passes forgiving my loan without me actively advocating or voting for it, should I turn down the forgiveness and ask to keep paying it?
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Funny how the people who created the free PPP loans didn't exclude themselves... the same people who could work summer jobs to pay for their education, while ridiculing todays kids for not wanting to start out life hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt.
    If they are business owners and were affected by the lockdowns why would they exclude themselves. I’ll admit I dont know if said republicans are business owners or not but if so then it’s ridiculous to compare the two.
    And if students don’t want such large debt perhaps instead of taking handouts which will do nothing but increase the cost of future tuition they should instead tell the government to get out of loans for colleges all together. As soon as the government started guaranteeing loans the price of college skyrocketed.
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    Sure thing Mr Clean.

    And I see people on the right can throw around accusations/insults and nothing happens but if I were to go off on you right now I would catch a ban faster than Trump falls asleep in court.
    Sure MAP, we can all throw insults but what you can't do is explain why being a net drain on society entitles you to demand strangers foot the bill for your terrible decisions. You seem to have nothing but emotion to offer
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    Originally Posted by goody1 View Post
    If they are business owners and were affected by the lockdowns why would they exclude themselves. I’ll admit I dont know if said republicans are business owners or not but if so then it’s ridiculous to compare the two.
    And if students don’t want such large debt perhaps instead of taking handouts which will do nothing but increase the cost of future tuition they should instead tell the government to get out of loans for colleges all together. As soon as the government started guaranteeing loans the price of college skyrocketed.
    Business owners could also be responsible and maintain reserves to weather downturns without taking handouts. BTW, those handouts also contributed to skyrocketing inflation.
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    Originally Posted by Seatard View Post
    Business owners could also be responsible and maintain reserves to weather downturns without taking handouts. BTW, those handouts also contributed to skyrocketing inflation.
    Many small business owners don’t have the capital lying around to continue to pay their employees while being forced to shut down for weeks/months
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    Originally Posted by Seatard View Post
    There are far more similarities between the two loan programs than differences. Both programs did a lot of good for the country, both were riddled with abuse.

    You want to make judgement calls based on your feelings about politics and who benefits, but that has nothing to do with the basic idea of a loan, and the terms and conditions of paying it back.
    that did not address the comment you quoted whatsoever.

    If the Government is going to force businesses to close and one's ability to provide income for themselves, than the government is responsinle for their actions and the aftermath of them.

    No one forced people to attend college than took away their ability to financial gain to pay for said college.

    Big difference
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