BREAKING: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse. Mass Casualty Event

[AncientYouth]

And it's also true that the crews of container ships are mostly from third world (second world?) countries. Russian officers with Filipino/Indian/Chinese crews is a pretty popular combination. Source: a bunch of my (Tuvaluan) in-laws work on ships.

as i said

[MountainLion84]

The ship had an all Pajeet crew

Imagine the smells.... enough to take a bridge down with their BO

[Retoaded]

Saw a report it was being piloted by the local harbor pilot at the time, not the native crew, which makes sense.

[lightsarefallin]

Holy fuk. That's wild.

[jimmybobjim]

And it's also true that the crews of container ships are mostly from third world (second world?) countries. Russian officers with Filipino/Indian/Chinese crews is a pretty popular combination. Source: a bunch of my (Tuvaluan) in-laws work on ships.

China and Russia aren't 3rd world countries. Also, China and India represent 35% of the world population. They're going to make up a significant proportion of any international sample. I don't think citizens from "3rd world countries" are over-represented in container ship crews.

[BlackJack619]

Why wasn’t the anchor mechanically dropped when they lost power the first time?

Isn’t that SOP for this type of situation?

[AncientYouth]

China and Russia aren't 3rd world countries. Also, China and India represent 35% of the world population. They're going to make up a significant proportion of any international sample. I don't think citizens from "3rd world countries" are over-represented in container ship crews.

90% of China is 3rd world brah, dont be fooled by the cities

[x-trainer ben]

press conference highlights:

35,000 cars use it daily
5 years to build
column was hit and sunk it
7 cars on top working on concrete, 1 in critical condition, 6 not found yet
it was the safe way to move hazardous waste, no roads no tunnels
will impact traffic patterns for a really long time/years

[BlackJack619]

Saw a report it was being piloted by the local harbor pilot at the time, not the native crew, which makes sense.

The native crew would be in the machinery spaces making sure the anchor was ready to drop in situations just like this?

Source: I was sea and anchor crew in the navy.

[jimmybobjim]

90% of China is 3rd world brah, dont be fooled by the cities

This isn't the 1980s anymore. They're undoubtedly "second world", with plenty of arguments for "first world". I know you're trying to speak in generalizations because it's funny and cool to do so on the misc, but if you truly believe that you're incredibly misinformed.

[AncientYouth]

This isn't the 1980s anymore. They're undoubtedly "second world", with plenty of arguments for "first world". I know you're trying to speak in generalizations because it's funny and cool to do so on the misc, but if you truly believe that you're incredibly misinformed.

a very rural economy , more sweat shops that you can shake a stick at, poverty wages which is why so much is made there

now being undercut by Vietnam, India and Bangladesh

i'll give you 2.5 world

[Procta]

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[pengh]

Did anyone do a new IN gif yet?






Here you go

[baldbrah]

Why wasn’t the anchor mechanically dropped when they lost power the first time?

Isn’t that SOP for this type of situation?

You think an anchor is going to stop a boat that big?

[RICHSTRONG]

China and Russia aren't 3rd world countries. Also, China and India represent 35% of the world population. They're going to make up a significant proportion of any international sample. I don't think citizens from "3rd world countries" are over-represented in container ship crews.

I'd say 4th or fif world. You ever see the Great Wall of China these days? Fukers in shambles. Truly disgusting

[BlackJack619]

You think an anchor is going to stop a boat that big?

Yes.

[BlackJack619]

You think an anchor is going to stop a boat that big?

As long as the anchor was designed for a that ship.

[Shysty021]

As long as the anchor was designed for a that ship.

Don’t ships that big have multiple anchors

[frankdtank20]

The ship had an all Pajeet crew

Crew too busy requesting pics of bobs and vagene to steer the ship or make sure it had power.

[baldbrah]

As long as the anchor was designed for a that ship.

Its to keep a ship stationary, not stop it under way. That heavy ass ship isn't going to stop by dropping anchor.

201340 Risks of dropping the anchor underway 14 - The Nautical Institute.

While overtaking the pontoon, the cargo vessel’s main engine suddenly failed. Since the electrical systems on board the vessel were linked to the main engine via the shaft generator, the electricity failed as well and for a short period of time the vessel suffered a blackout. During the blackout, the rudder unexpectedly turned to port, causing the vessel to deviate sharply from its course and toward the tug and tow. In order to prevent a collision, the captain, on VHF radio, ordered the anchor let go. As there were crew on deck at the time, the anchor was let go very quickly after the order – within 15 seconds. At the time the anchor was let go the cargo vessel still had a speed over ground (SOG) of 7.5 knots.

Despite the attempts by the AB to secure the winch brake, the anchor chain continued to run out. The last length of chain had broken loose from the chain locker, and the AB was hit and fatally injured by the bitter end.

The cargo vessel collided with the pontoon almost simultaneously with the breaking free of the anchor chain. Both vessels sustained limited damage as a result of the collision.

Lessons learned
The use of the anchor to slow down the ship in an emergency:
IACS stipulates that an anchor must be constructed in such a way that it is suitable to anchor a ship temporarily in ‘moderate’ ******t conditions. The anchor gear is not designed to stop a ship. Anchoring at high speed is an extremely risky operation that may result in fatal injuries to crew members and serious damage to the ship. Such a manoeuvre should only be considered in an extreme emergency.

[nn586]

Old Bald White Supremacist explains it well:









Looks like someone dropped the anchor and it veered it off course.

[Procta]

[ReppinHoes69]

The bridge from The Wire S2

[Bushmaster]

What the **** did I just read? Please tell me that's satire??

[BlackJack619]

Its to keep a ship stationary, not stop it under way. That heavy ass ship isn't going to stop by dropping anchor.

201340 Risks of dropping the anchor underway 14 - The Nautical Institute.

While overtaking the pontoon, the cargo vessel’s main engine suddenly failed. Since the electrical systems on board the vessel were linked to the main engine via the shaft generator, the electricity failed as well and for a short period of time the vessel suffered a blackout. During the blackout, the rudder unexpectedly turned to port, causing the vessel to deviate sharply from its course and toward the tug and tow. In order to prevent a collision, the captain, on VHF radio, ordered the anchor let go. As there were crew on deck at the time, the anchor was let go very quickly after the order – within 15 seconds. At the time the anchor was let go the cargo vessel still had a speed over ground (SOG) of 7.5 knots.

Despite the attempts by the AB to secure the winch brake, the anchor chain continued to run out. The last length of chain had broken loose from the chain locker, and the AB was hit and fatally injured by the bitter end.

The cargo vessel collided with the pontoon almost simultaneously with the breaking free of the anchor chain. Both vessels sustained limited damage as a result of the collision.

Lessons learned
The use of the anchor to slow down the ship in an emergency:
IACS stipulates that an anchor must be constructed in such a way that it is suitable to anchor a ship temporarily in ‘moderate’ ******t conditions. The anchor gear is not designed to stop a ship. Anchoring at high speed is an extremely risky operation that may result in fatal injuries to crew members and serious damage to the ship. Such a manoeuvre should only be considered in an extreme emergency.

Your point isn’t valid

1. The ship was slowly moving
2. The ship was in shallow water
3. Reasons like this is exactly why the anchor is maned during channel navigation.
4. If running into a bridge isn’t an extreme emergency what is?

[BlackJack619]

Don’t ships that big have multiple anchors

Exactly, someone dropped the ball by not dropping the anchor the 1st time the ship lost power.

[Maestro]

I was gonna say, I thought I saw a colostomy bag and a copy of Jet Magazine floating in the water.. anybody heard from him today?

Do you really hate someone for their political affiliation so much you want them to die?

[Bushmaster]

Do you really hate someone for their political affiliation so much you want them to die?

Political affiliation...? Not at all.

Sillie, on the other hand....

[fate0311]

Its to keep a ship stationary, not stop it under way. That heavy ass ship isn't going to stop by dropping anchor (assuming the anchors actually grab).

201340 Risks of dropping the anchor underway 14 - The Nautical Institute.

While overtaking the pontoon, the cargo vessel’s main engine suddenly failed. Since the electrical systems on board the vessel were linked to the main engine via the shaft generator, the electricity failed as well and for a short period of time the vessel suffered a blackout. During the blackout, the rudder unexpectedly turned to port, causing the vessel to deviate sharply from its course and toward the tug and tow. In order to prevent a collision, the captain, on VHF radio, ordered the anchor let go. As there were crew on deck at the time, the anchor was let go very quickly after the order – within 15 seconds. At the time the anchor was let go the cargo vessel still had a speed over ground (SOG) of 7.5 knots.

Despite the attempts by the AB to secure the winch brake, the anchor chain continued to run out. The last length of chain had broken loose from the chain locker, and the AB was hit and fatally injured by the bitter end.

The cargo vessel collided with the pontoon almost simultaneously with the breaking free of the anchor chain. Both vessels sustained limited damage as a result of the collision.

Lessons learned
The use of the anchor to slow down the ship in an emergency:
IACS stipulates that an anchor must be constructed in such a way that it is suitable to anchor a ship temporarily in ‘moderate’ ******t conditions. The anchor gear is not designed to stop a ship. Anchoring at high speed is an extremely risky operation that may result in fatal injuries to crew members and serious damage to the ship. Such a manoeuvre should only be considered in an extreme emergency.

I interpret that quote as a loss of power due to "lugging" the vessel due to dropping the anchors (assuming they actually grab). If the ship is under zero thrust (via captain) and the anchors catch, I do not see how that would cause a power failure. The coupling between the driveshaft and the engine(s) would not be present under zero thrust.

Do I think this was due to power failures? Yes. No thrust = continued increased turning radius over time (radius increases as vessel continues to lose velocity).

Do I think it's due to the above anchor theory? No

[BlackJack619]

I guarantee if they dropped the anchors when they originally lost power, lives would have been saved. And that bridge would still be erected.