engineering brah's....is DoE becoming more in demand?

[fate0311]

I had a conversation with a colleague and he thinks more engineers out of undergrad need to be better versed in understanding and employing DoE to streamline the testing process.

Is this still in your eyes a manufacturing engineering skillset or is it started to be seen more across all engineering (mechanical, etc) and specifically in mechanical testing environments?

srs post.

[Retoaded]

PE checking in. Don't know what DoE is. Hope this helps.

[fate0311]

PE checking in. Don't know what DoE is. Hope this helps.

You've never heard of Design of Experiments? Like an L8 Orthogonal Array?

[Retoaded]

You've never heard of Design of Experiments? Like an L8 Orthogonal Array?

Nah bro I am a civil, I just push dirt with my mouse.

[dingler]

Never heard of it. Former ChemE current PetroE. Maybe someone who does research could speak to it.

[fate0311]

Never heard of it. Former ChemE current PetroE. Maybe someone who does research could speak to it.

How have none of you heard of it? All undergrad is ABET and I know for a fact all programs cover DoE senior year.

Maybe ChemE doesn't cover it but that doesn't make sense. Plenty of applications for it in ANY testing or production environment.

[Retoaded]

How have none of you heard of it? All undergrad is ABET and I know for a fact all programs cover DoE senior year.

not in civil engineering, I advise our local University and mentor students.

Definitely sounds like some academia nonsense though.

[dingler]

How have none of you heard of it? All undergrad is ABET and I know for a fact all programs cover DoE senior year.

Maybe ChemE doesn't cover it but that doesn't make sense. Plenty of applications for it in ANY testing or production environment.

I read through the wiki page it sounds like a process control simulation, change an input see what output you get, then use that to design the next iteration. I would think you would use DoE to design processes, which makes sense why you are seeing it in manufacturing.

[fate0311]

I read through the wiki page it sounds like a process control simulation, change an input see what output you get, then use that to design the next iteration. I would think you would use DoE to design processes, which makes sense why you are seeing it in manufacturing.

It can be utilized in testing. If you have multiple variables that you believe may be independently influencing results, you can utilize DoE to test for it without needing to test every single configuration. It also identifies possible interactions between the independent variables if they are present.

Any why would you use wiki? ChatGTP is where you want to be at asking for context on **** like this.

[FAPhaggot]

Testing is phucking Pajeet work. Any H1-B can follow a pre written test flow, so that role easily offshored and contracted out. Jobs and wages become a race to the bottom.

I'd try to switch jobs or majors if you can, very srs. I've been pushed towards it twice and got out twice.

[fate0311]

Testing is phucking Pajeet work. Any H1-B can follow a pre written test flow, so that role easily offshored and contracted out. Jobs and wages become a race to the bottom.

I'd try to switch jobs or majors if you can, very srs. I've been pushed towards it twice and got out twice.

You are confusing a technician with an engineer. The key differentiation being the engineer understands what his eyes see at a granular level while a technician is no different than a mechanic who follows motions, procedures, and learns behaviors while holding no foundational understanding.

Any mechanical engineer that feels like his job is for pajeets and feels threatened is a perfect example of a sub-par performing engineer. Good engineers are always in demand.

[FAPhaggot]

You are confusing a technician with an engineer. The key differentiation being the engineer understands what his eyes see at a granular level while a technician is no different than a mechanic who follows motions, procedures, and learns behaviors while holding no foundational understanding.

I have a masters in electrical engineering, brah.

Half of my old job was calling Pajeets in Bangalore late in the night and early in the morning and troubleshooting their test setup and results. Then I'd tweak chit on the US side to compensate.

They tried to move me towards hands-on testing, and I got laid off not long thereafter.

[fate0311]

I have a masters in electrical engineering, brah.

Then based off your attitude you are a prime example of how grad degrees do not make the person.

[RICHSTRONG]

PE checking in. Don't know what DoE is. Hope this helps.

Meh, we use it some. DoE can be used to optimize the design and testing of mechanical systems and components. For example, it can be employed to determine the optimal parameters for testing the strength or durability of materials, the performance of mechanical systems, or the efficiency of manufacturing processes.

As engineering becomes more interdisciplinary and complex, the ability to apply DoE principles can be beneficial for engineers in various fields. It allows for a more systematic and efficient approach to experimentation and can lead to better understanding and optimization of processes and systems. Therefore, while DoE may have its roots in manufacturing engineering, its relevance and importance are increasingly recognized across all engineering disciplines. Btw, I'm answering you and not the fake engineer, OP. He wouldn't know the difference between thermodynamics and fluid mechanics.

[Retoaded]

Meh, we use it some. DoE can be used to optimize the design and testing of mechanical systems and components. For example, it can be employed to determine the optimal parameters for testing the strength or durability of materials, the performance of mechanical systems, or the efficiency of manufacturing processes.

As engineering becomes more interdisciplinary and complex, the ability to apply DoE principles can be beneficial for engineers in various fields. It allows for a more systematic and efficient approach to experimentation and can lead to better understanding and optimization of processes and systems. Therefore, while DoE may have its roots in manufacturing engineering, its relevance and importance are increasingly recognized across all engineering disciplines. Btw, I'm answering you and not the fake engineer, OP. He wouldn't know the difference between thermodynamics and fluid mechanics.

Where did you copy/pasta this from lol.

I did take both thermo and fluid mechanics btw.




































I studied fluid mechanics with your mom.

[FAPhaggot]

Then based off your attitude you are a prime example of how grad degrees do not make the person.

Testing is valuable. "If it's not tested, it doesn't work." Testers are unfortunately fungible.

Your entire career goal in tech should be to get away from jobs that can either be Pajeetmaxxed or be automated. Because over the next few decades, more and more will be. The tides are coming in, and you need to head for higher ground.

[RICHSTRONG]

Where did you copy/pasta this from lol.

I did take both thermo and fluid mechanics btw.




































I studied fluid mechanics with your mom.

Ya, well..I practiced Lami's Theorem on your mom's pussy, inserting 2 fingers and my thumb in her vagina with each digit proportional to the sine of the angle between the other two forces. Hehe...that's an old joke we laugh about back in the office at Kimley Horn until i moved to Siemens.

[fate0311]

Testing is valuable. "If it's not tested, it doesn't work." Testers are unfortunately fungible.

Your entire career goal in tech should be to get away from jobs that can either be Pajeetmaxxed or be automated. Because over the next few decades, more and more will be. The tides are coming in, and you need to head for higher ground.

you are literally too stupid to insult.

[BearyManilowe]

How have none of you heard of it? All undergrad is ABET and I know for a fact all programs cover DoE senior year.

Maybe ChemE doesn't cover it but that doesn't make sense. Plenty of applications for it in ANY testing or production environment.

Dudes talking about an efficiency process as if it translates to anything about actual engineering.

[zknarc]

I only came across it when I moved from engineering into science which obviously does lots of experiments. If you are planning an experiment with many different variables you can change, it is a good idea to learn about this so you design can them time/resource/cost efficiently and don't end up with combinatorial explosion. It is most relevent in areas which do statistical analysis which is often not engineering.

[TugOfPeace]

Testing is valuable. "If it's not tested, it doesn't work." Testers are unfortunately fungible.

Your entire career goal in tech should be to get away from jobs that can either be Pajeetmaxxed or be automated. Because over the next few decades, more and more will be. The tides are coming in, and you need to head for higher ground.

I'm EE as well but in the power field. There's some pajeets there but they are competent as fuk. Can't survive in my field being stupid. Zero women, very little outsourcing.

[FAPhaggot]

I'm EE as well but in the power field. There's some pajeets there but they are competent as fuk. Can't survive in my field being stupid. Zero women, very little outsourcing.

I'm in semiconductors. Just left a place that had a division of 85 engineers stateside, and 82 of the employees were H1-Bs. We also had sister teams located in India that shadowed or backed up the US engineers nearly 1 to 1. Everyone knew those guys were our replacements and that we were training them.

Management was literally replacing Indians with other cheaper Indians. It was like a fukking curry ouroboros eating itself.... and this was on the chip design team.

I didn't realize that OP is a current engineer, I thought he was still a student and had time to change. Guess all he can do now is ride this out.

[fate0311]

I'm in semiconductors. Just left a place that had a division of 85 engineers stateside, and 82 of the employees were H1-Bs. We also had sister teams located in India that shadowed or backed up the US engineers nearly 1 to 1. Everyone knew those guys were our replacements and that we were training them.

Management was literally replacing Indians with other cheaper Indians. It was like a fukking curry ouroboros eating itself.... and this was on the chip design team.

I didn't realize that OP is a current engineer, I thought he was still a student and had time to change. Guess all he can do now is ride this out.

not that it's any of your business but I am in control systems. You can't replace control systems engineers. It's not like replacing a software engineer who is writing software for something intangible or insignificant.

Control systems engineers can move into software completely if they choose. Software engineers can't go into control systems, they lack the mechanical knowledge. Or at the very least they would be working within a team of mechanical engineers to back check their software and integration into a mechanical system.

[AshWar]

YOU’RE AN UNEMPLOYED SCHITZO. WAKE Up

[ExPatriot]

YOU’RE AN UNEMPLOYED SCHITZO. WAKE Up

[LuigiMiami631]

OP over here trying to throw out fancy terms like anyone gives a flying fuk.

Yet the homo can't even figure out why he enjoys being penetrated by every native congo tribesmen.

You wonder why your wife left you for a fruit rollup you cock goblin.

[JackyChin]

I took this class. Test pilots/engineers use DoE because it's extremely expensive to test each variable on an aircraft/weapons system when each flight costs $100k+ and each munition costs $1m+

It's basically "do more with less" for testing.

I've never used it in my career.

[RICHSTRONG]

YOU’RE AN UNEMPLOYED SCHITZO. WAKE Up

[crash1181]

Mechanical engineer for 20 years here. I learned DoE in college, but have never used it in the real world. In my world, vehicle emissions testing, engineering is more of a good troubleshooting mindset. Technical skills are hired out. So maybe I'm not a good example.

[Retoaded]

Ya, well..I practiced Lami's Theorem on your mom's pussy, inserting 2 fingers and my thumb in her vagina with each digit proportional to the sine of the angle between the other two forces. Hehe...that's an old joke we laugh about back in the office at Kimley Horn until i moved to Siemens.

LOL we work with Kimley Horn a bunch. None of those dudes down here are capable of making jokes.