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    2. The Odyssey by Homer

    I really liked this. But it was a little jarring how unbothered the characters are about slavery. Ulysses’s pig farmer explained how he was sold to him. When he was a child his mother was seduced by a pirate and she suggested they sell her son. Crazy. Was also a little surprised by the killing of the disloyal female servants. But still a good story with a happy ending.
    I enjoyed the Odyssey more than the Iliad, i think. I got quite a few laughs out of the cyclops screaming 'nobody is attacking me'

    Although if slavery is jarring to you, i'd suggest not reading further classical texts lol. It was somewhat of a necessity in a world without technology, where scarcity is a real problem and might is right. They just operated under a completely different paradigm to now.

    Also, Homer would shudder if he saw you using the Latinized version of Odysseus's name

    If you enjoyed these works by Homer, i'd recommend "Robin Lane Fox - Homer and his Illiad", he delves very deep into the composition, morality, meaning etc of the Illiad. It's a great (but long) work.
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    I enjoyed the Odyssey more than the Iliad, i think. I got quite a few laughs out of the cyclops screaming 'nobody is attacking me'

    Although if slavery is jarring to you, i'd suggest not reading further classical texts lol. It was somewhat of a necessity in a world without technology, where scarcity is a real problem and might is right. They just operated under a completely different paradigm to now.

    Also, Homer would shudder if he saw you using the Latinized version of Odysseus's name

    If you enjoyed these works by Homer, i'd recommend "Robin Lane Fox - Homer and his Illiad", he delves very deep into the composition, morality, meaning etc of the Illiad. It's a great (but long) work.
    Ha, it wasn’t the slavery but the reaction to it. When you read the writings of Americans from the slavery era there tended by some conflicting feelings from slave owners like Thomas Jefferson. But in this book his mom was like, “we can sell my son for some quick cash.” Just kind of a crazy view from our perspective today.

    Thanks for the book recommendation, I’ll look into it.
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    Cicero - Selected Political Speeches - 4.5/5 - Enjoyed these a lot, the speeches were: defending Archias, defending Caelius Rufus, defending Milo, the first Phillipic and defending Marcellus

    Stephen Dando-Collins - Caligula - 3/5 - Wanted to give this more, it was a decent book overall, but it was extremely disappointing to see a full on chapter full of hateful trump rhetoric comparing him to Caligula (really). It just has no place in a serious Roman history book, and the author made no effort to be balanced in his analysis either, it was just an entire chapter in a Roman history book dedicated to a Trump character assassination. Evidently Trump has triggered him, which is fine everyone is entitled to his view, but does it really need to seep into his academic work?

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    4 books down in 2024

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    Christian Meier - Julius Caesar - 5/5 - by far the best biography on Caesar i've read... extremely in depth and takes many pains to examine the situation in Rome with Sulla etc that made Caesar possible, and dives deeply into Caesars psychology
    Robert Harris - Dictator - 5/5 - Finished Robert harrises series now. Wow, amazing hoenstly. Anyone interested in Rome should read the cicero (Imperium) series by Robert Harris.
    Ovid - Ars Amatoria - 3.5/5 - A tongue n cheek guide on how to smash women and get away with cheating, by a Roman degenerate poet during Augustus's reign. A lot of fun and gives a solid insight into the feeling of the time.

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    Have you read Adrian Goldsworthy's Caesar? If so, how does it compare to Meier's?
    Yeah i have; it's a great biography of Caesar, the 2nd best i've read, but i'm gonna be honest Meiers is much better. It goes into much greater depth into the Republic, its problems, the paradigm of the time and also delves deep into what Caesar 'means' and the psychology of Caesar, and what he represents in history etc. It's a much more scholarly and in depth biography. It also goes deep into the conditions prior to Caesar that led to him, such as the Marian/Sulla civil war, the Gracchi etc which are quite important in understanding Caesars role in the Republic, which Goldsworthy doesn't really talk about.

    Goldsworthy is one of my favourite Roman history writers though, i especially enjoyed Augustus.
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    We're pretty much snowed in here and when I'm not clearing the driveway I've been renovating a bathroom but there is still some downtime to read. Completed Lost in the Wild: Danger and Survival in the North Woods. This was a pretty quick read but something about the stories hit close to home. The book follows 2 scenarios of people getting lost in the BWCA/Quetico region and in both situations though I don't think I would make the same decisions the lost individuals made, you can see some logic in their choices and how easily and quickly things can go wrong.

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    3. Beyond Good and Evil by Friedrich Nietzsche

    I’d read this like 20+ years ago as a part of a collection of his writings. I definitely appreciate this more now. His commentary on Schopenhauer and Hegel made a lot more sense now that I’ve not only heard of them but read some of their work. Also, I didn’t remember how redpilled he was on women and the stupidity of feminism. My biggest takeaway though was how I actually found his bluntness and being so uncouth was actually pretty funny. “Perhaps, the mediocre minds of the British might be more suited to this” when he’s mentioning Darwin and the study of evolution. There were a couple of other times I laughed out loud too. As a Christian, I don’t agree with his slave morality but I think there are some valid observations regarding behavior of different classes and “noble souls.” Overall, this was interesting and worth revisiting.
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    I've finished two books and am on book three for the year:

    1 - The Edge (6:20 Man #2), David Baldacci, 4/5
    2 - Dark Site (Sam Dryden #3), Patrick Lee, 5/5

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    3 - The Broken Room, Peter Clines

    Patrick Lee hasn't written a ton of books, but I've enjoyed all of them. I think Dark Site is the best book I've read in years. It's technically part of a series, but you can read each one as a standalone. His other series that starts with The Breach were the first books I read by him and I'd highly recommend them also.

    Lee likes to genre-bend a bit, and his Breach series was a sci-fi thriller combo. Very Outer Limits/Twilight Zone feel to them.

    Dark Site was more of a straight up thriller with some technological elements that wouldn't really put it in sci-fi territory, but it still had that strange town feel from things like The Twilight Zone and other books I've enjoyed such as the Wayward Pines series by Blake Crouch.

    Dark Site alternates the chapters by jumping from the main character's past to the present, but it's really well done. The past elements brought so much nostalgia and those first love feels that it almost feels like a part coming-of-age story. I was blown away by this book and highly recommend it to my fellow thriller lovers.
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    I've finished two books and am on book three for the year:

    1 - The Edge (6:20 Man #2), David Baldacci, 4/5
    2 - Dark Site (Sam Dryden #3), Patrick Lee, 5/5

    Currently reading:
    3 - The Broken Room, Peter Clines

    Patrick Lee hasn't written a ton of books, but I've enjoyed all of them. I think Dark Site is the best book I've read in years. It's technically part of a series, but you can read each one as a standalone. His other series that starts with The Breach were the first books I read by him and I'd highly recommend them also.

    Lee likes to genre-bend a bit, and his Breach series was a sci-fi thriller combo. Very Outer Limits/Twilight Zone feel to them.

    Dark Site was more of a straight up thriller with some technological elements that wouldn't really put it in sci-fi territory, but it still had that strange town feel from things like The Twilight Zone and other books I've enjoyed such as the Wayward Pines series by Blake Crouch.

    Dark Site alternates the chapters by jumping from the main character's past to the present, but it's really well done. The past elements brought so much nostalgia and those first love feels that it almost feels like a part coming-of-age story. I was blown away by this book and highly recommend it to my fellow thriller lovers.
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    I found Geronimo's story really interesting and there is this interesting dynamic where this was written with the approval of the president and there are sections where Geronimo is criticizing the president or assorted military officers and they had to footnote that these were Geronimo's words and not S.M. Barrett's and that the US Govt did not necessarily agree with what was being written.


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    Checked out 3 books yesterday. Read a few pages through all 3 and returned all 3.

    It was funny because I didn't know young adult books read differently from the adult fiction books. And then the thicker fictional books, some of them just seemed to blabber on and on.
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    Originally Posted by theory816 View Post
    Checked out 3 books yesterday. Read a few pages through all 3 and returned all 3.

    It was funny because I didn't know young adult books read differently from the adult fiction books. And then the thicker fictional books, some of them just seemed to blabber on and on.
    zzz inducing

    how many pages did you read out of the 1000 pages you set as a goal yesterday? i can rarely read more than 20 if the book is interesting
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    zzz inducing

    how many pages did you read out of the 1000 pages you set as a goal yesterday? i can rarely read more than 20 if the book is interesting
    Close to 300 lol
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    I just finished Without Fail (Jack Reacher #6). I was entertained throughout the whole book, but when I got to the end of it, the plot wasn't complicated at all. Not that it has to be complicated and I've complained before that some books are TOO COMPLICATED. This was a reread for me, and maybe I'm just having to get back into the Lee Child way of writing. I'm currently rereading Nothing To Lose (Jack Reacher #12), and I am again being entertained from page 1 to where I am now (~page 200).
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    Originally Posted by Payton1221 View Post
    I just finished Without Fail (Jack Reacher #6). I was entertained throughout the whole book, but when I got to the end of it, the plot wasn't complicated at all. Not that it has to be complicated and I've complained before that some books are TOO COMPLICATED. This was a reread for me, and maybe I'm just having to get back into the Lee Child way of writing. I'm currently rereading Nothing To Lose (Jack Reacher #12), and I am again being entertained from page 1 to where I am now (~page 200).
    Yea the Reacher books usually aren't super complicated or thought provoking (although some have some pretty cool twists and turns). But overall they're designed more like "along for the ride", like you say.
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    Originally Posted by xxAchillesxx View Post
    Yea the Reacher books usually aren't super complicated or thought provoking (although some have some pretty cool twists and turns). But overall they're designed more like "along for the ride", like you say.
    Agreed. And a big part of the plot is always disguised for the majority of the book. The book that I just finished involved a small "team" (very small team) intent on assassinating the Vice President Elect. It's only when you're about 80-85% finished with the book is it revealed what their motivation was (and their motivation was much less significant than one would think necessary to embark on such an act).

    The Reacher book I'm reading now, Nothing To Lose, has Reacher passing through a "company town" (i.e., everything is owned by this one company) where they want to keep strangers out. There's a huge recycling facility the size of 400 football fields and there are legitimate, active military personnel guarding the area with a small plane that makes one flight each and every night: exits @ 1:00 am, returns @ 5:00 am. I'm nearly 1/2 way through and I have no idea what is really going on but it'll be revealed later ;-) (this is a reread too and I can't recall what happened).
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    Originally Posted by Payton1221 View Post
    Agreed. And a big part of the plot is always disguised for the majority of the book. The book that I just finished involved a small "team" (very small team) intent on assassinating the Vice President Elect. It's only when you're about 80-85% finished with the book is it revealed what their motivation was (and their motivation was much less significant than one would think necessary to embark on such an act).

    The Reacher book I'm reading now, Nothing To Lose, has Reacher passing through a "company town" (i.e., everything is owned by this one company) where they want to keep strangers out. There's a huge recycling facility the size of 400 football fields and there are legitimate, active military personnel guarding the area with a small plane that makes one flight each and every night: exits @ 1:00 am, returns @ 5:00 am. I'm nearly 1/2 way through and I have no idea what is really going on but it'll be revealed later ;-) (this is a reread too and I can't recall what happened).
    That kind of sounds like what season 1 of the Amazon show was based on.
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    Foundryside was recommended in one of these threads. It has an interesting world that reminds me of a steampunk setting with all the mechanical devices used. But the principle behind these devices is somewhat scientific/somewhat magical.
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    Foundryside was recommended in one of these threads. It has an interesting world that reminds me of a steampunk setting with all the mechanical devices used. But the principle behind these devices is somewhat scientific/somewhat magical.
    That's the first in a trilogy. Are you going to read the other books?

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